Taliban & Pakistan have peace deal after Taliban takes another province

[SavetheWest]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090217/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan

MINGORA, Pakistan – Pakistan dispatched a pro-Taliban cleric to talk peace with militants in the former tourist haven of Swat on Tuesday, a day after it agreed to a truce with the extremists and pledged to implement Islamic law in the region as part of a widely criticized deal.

A U.S. defense official called the agreement "a negative development" and a Pakistani civil rights activist dubbed it a surrender to militants believed to control up to 80 percent of the Swat Valley, which lies near the northwest tribal regions where al-Qaida and Taliban have long had strongholds.

But several Swat residents welcomed the prospect of peace after more than a year of fighting that has killed hundreds, sent up to third of the valley's 1.5 million people fleeing and ruined the tourist industry in a region less than 100 miles (160 kilometers) from the capital, Islamabad.

"May God protect this peace deal," said Haji Javed, 40, a shop owner in Swat's main town, Mingora. "We saw a lot of destruction during the fighting between the army and the Taliban. We are happy that they have agreed to give peace a chance."

The government in northwestern Pakistan announced the deal after it met with Islamists led by pro-Taliban cleric Sufi Muhammad who have long demanded that Islamic, or Shariah, law be followed in this conservative corner of Pakistan.

As part of the deal, Muhammad agreed to travel to Swat and discuss peace with the militants there.

Muhammad was detained in 2002 after he sent thousands to fight U.S. troops in Afghanistan but was freed last year when he renounced violence. He is the father-in-law to Maulana Fazlullah, the leader of the Swat Taliban.

Mohammed's spokesman Izzat Khan said Tuesday he would meet with Fazlullah.

Pakistan's shaky civilian government has been under intense domestic pressure to retake control of the Swat Valley, although many Islamist lawmakers and other Islamic groups have urged it to negotiate with the militants, who are believed to number around 2,000.

Some 10,000 paramilitary and army troops have been unable to beat the insurgency, which picked up after a similar deal there broke down last year, when many say militants were able to regroup and rearm.

"It is hard to view this as anything other than a negative development," a senior U.S. Defense Department official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of relations with Pakistan and because he was not authorized to speak on the record.

Many analysts questioned whether the fighters would listen to Muhammad and said they doubted the deal would stop violence, while critics asked why authorities were responding to the demands of militants who have waged a reign of terror.

"This is simply a great surrender, a surrender to a handful of forces who work through rough justice and brute force," said Athar Minallah, a lawyer and civil rights activist. "Who will be accountable for those hundreds of people who have been massacred in Swat? And they go and recognize these forces as a political force. This is pathetic."

Amir Haider Khan Hoti, chief minister in North West Frontier Province, said troops in Swat would remain there but stop offensive operations and retaliate only if attacked.

He stressed they would not leave the valley until the militant threat was over.

A spokesman for the army said militants would have to live up to the truce deal.

"At the moment, the military has been asked to hold back and allow the peace initiative there," Maj. Gen Athar Abbas said. "But it is to be seen whether they (the militants) follow this cease-fire in true letter and spirit or take undue advantage of it."

Hoti said the main changes to the legal system promised by the accord already are included in existing laws stipulating Islamic justice. But he said they would be implemented only after peace was restored.

Hoti said the laws, which allow for Muslim clerics to advise judges when hearing cases and the setting up of an Islamic appeals court, would ensure a much speedier and fairer justice system than the current one, which dates back to British colonial times.

The rules do not ban female education or contain other strict interpretations of Shariah that have been demanded by many members of the Taliban in Pakistan — restrictions imposed by Afghanistan's Taliban regime that was ousted by the U.S.-led invasion in late 2001.

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Associated Press writers Ishtiaq Mahsud in Dera Ismail Khan, Nahal Toosi in Islamabad and Pauline Jelinek in Washington contributed to this report.

[syyuge]

Although it is a grave matter, but there is nothing serious about it.

About 70% population of Papaistan666 adores Taliban and Osama much more than all other leaders of Papaistan or the world combined together.

Writing is on the wall for Papaistan666.

[✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ]

The Islamists use cease fire not for lasting peace, but for recuperating and preparing the stage for next stage of attack.

[syyuge]

Hmmm... Osama seems to be getting treated in this hospital and then hide in surrounding mountainous hideouts. This place is only about 25 Km south of torabora caves.   

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=33.8877312&lon=70.110991&z=16&l=0&m=a&v=2

[Ithaca-37]

In a case of remarkable timing, note this piece in today's Wall Street Journal, subtitled "The Left Is Already Starting to Doubt Obama's Afghan Surge."

I'm about as far from Left as it gets, and I also have plenty of doubts about Obama as a commander, in any circumstances.  It's beyond me that this news about the Taliban in Pakistan was left out of this WSJ piece.  Do you realize that we may be witnessing a remarkable moment in history:  the same dirt-bags who arranged 9/11 may be on the cusp of regaining a nation for themselves ..... and maybe a second nation, this time with a nuclear arsenal.

It's as if the Nazis were coming back in Germany in the mid-1950s, and on the road to taking over the Soviet Union at the same time.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123482632399795061.html?mod=article-outset-box

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[syyuge]

Yes, Taliban taking Papistan can be compared to Nazis taking USSR with Nukes.

[SavetheWest]

The Islamists use cease fire not for lasting peace, but for recuperating and preparing the stage for next stage of attack.

That's a very good analysis.

[SavetheWest]

In a case of remarkable timing, note this piece in today's Wall Street Journal, subtitled "The Left Is Already Starting to Doubt Obama's Afghan Surge."

I'm about as far from Left as it gets, and I also have plenty of doubts about Obama as a commander, in any circumstances.  It's beyond me that this news about the Taliban in Pakistan was left out of this WSJ piece.  Do you realize that we may be witnessing a remarkable moment in history:  the same dirt-bags who arranged 9/11 may be on the cusp of regaining a nation for themselves ..... and maybe a second nation, this time with a nuclear arsenal.

It's as if the Nazis were coming back in Germany in the mid-1950s, and on the road to taking over the Soviet Union at the same time.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123482632399795061.html?mod=article-outset-box

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The problem with the Taliban is that if they have nuclear weapons, they will use them.  Even though the urban Pakistanis want the Taliban to hit the US and Israel, they don't actually want to practice what they preach.  They don't actually want to take action and go to war as the Taliban are doing.  If the Taliban conquers the whole country, they will squash the tiny group of urban Paki elites who are willing to meet with Westerners and behead them all.  It will be a very, very bad situation and it will be weeks or months from a Taliban win, to a nuclear disaster in a Western country.   I really pray we can all make it through this.

[syyuge]

Please look in to the recent history. Taliban never fought a war properly. They were the Muzahideens of north who really fought against the USSR. When USSR was ousted, Taliban was created as an opportunist Muslonazi puppet organization to snatch the political power at behest of some malignant powers with petro-money. Only Saudi, Emirates and Papistan recognized the Taliban.

When fighting against the Muzahideen strongholds, every time the Talibans used to attack them in two successive attempts with getting increasing losses of manpower each time. Both times Talibans had to run away. Then before the third attack they will secretly pay petro-money to the Deputy Commander of the Muzahideens, who would vacate the post hours before the attack. So Talibans during the third attack used to enter in to the vacant citadels.

They were utterly exposed in the war against USA, when USA although never bombed directly at the warring camps of Taliban. There the only 15000 warriors of Northern Afghani Alliance  with only 60 old tanks fought against 50000 Talibani soldiers  with 300 tanks supported by 12000 Jihadis from Papistan and other Muslamic nations.   

Within 4 weeks the Northern Afghani Alliance had driven the Taliban in south up to the city of Khandahar, only then the western ground forces could operate on to the ground.   
 
History must be repeating itself now as a comedy, as Papistani commanders and leaders are vacating their posts against the advancing Taliban, without a justified fight and for a few petro-dinars more.   

As more than 70% population of Papistan666 can be expected to be the heartily supporters of Taliban, so @ it can be surmised that within coming days and months Taliban may be taking over Islamisbad, Rahoalpindi, Lahure and Kronchhi.   

Papistan666 has nothing to lose, as it has been carved out by the acts of theft, plunder, treachery and massacres.

[SavetheWest]

Please look in to the recent history. Taliban never fought a war properly. They were the Muzahideens of north who really fought against the USSR. When USSR was ousted, Taliban was created as an opportunist Muslonazi puppet organization to snatch the political power at behest of some malignant powers with petro-money. Only Saudi, Emirates and Papistan recognized the Taliban.

When fighting against the Muzahideen strongholds, every time the Talibans used to attack them in two successive attempts with getting increasing losses of manpower each time. Both times Talibans had to run away. Then before the third attack they will secretly pay petro-money to the Deputy Commander of the Muzahideens, who would vacate the post hours before the attack. So Talibans during the third attack used to enter in to the vacant citadels.

They were utterly exposed in the war against USA, when USA although never bombed directly at the warring camps of Taliban. There the only 15000 warriors of Northern Afghani Alliance  with only 60 old tanks fought against 50000 Talibani soldiers  with 300 tanks supported by 12000 Jihadis from Papistan and other Muslamic nations.   

Within 4 weeks the Northern Afghani Alliance had driven the Taliban in south up to the city of Khandahar, only then the western ground forces could operate on to the ground.   
 
History must be repeating itself now as a comedy, as Papistani commanders and leaders are vacating their posts against the advancing Taliban, without a justified fight and for a few petro-dinars more.   

As more than 70% population of Papistan666 can be expected to be the heartily supporters of Taliban, so @ it can be surmised that within coming days and months Taliban may be taking over Islamisbad, Rahoalpindi, Lahure and Kronchhi.   

Papistan666 has nothing to lose, as it has been carved out by the acts of theft, plunder, treachery and massacres.

The Taliban wans't really defeated...the CIA agents and special forces just had bagloads of money and paid off all the pro Taliban warlords so they could move further south.  I know they are supported by Pakistani intelligence and the Saudis and other petrol dollars.  It seems that the prime minister and even Musharraf hate the West, India and all non Muslims but they don't want to live the way of the dedicated Jihad warrior.  They still watch TV and play sports for instance.  I just think that many of them just want to hold on to power and not actually have their lives completely dedicated to Jihad but rather watch and cheer from the sidelines.  The Muslim world has always hated the US, India, Israel, etc but the Taliban actually harbored Al Qaeda and did more damager than any other Muslim terrorist attack to date.  They have shown they are willing to do direct damage to the US

[syyuge]

Taliban and Papistan666 have hands in gloves. They have convinced the Unipolar EuroCommunist leaders of the world that they have jointly taken a politically correct step.

[SavetheWest]

They want the global caliphate and to rule over all non Muslims.  I really hope India is able to knock out the Indian, American and Jew hating Pakis/Taliban, because no one else seems to have the guts to do so. 

[syyuge]

They want the global caliphate and to rule over all non Muslims.  I really hope India is able to knock out the Indian, American and Jew hating Pakis/Taliban, because no one else seems to have the guts to do so. 

G_d willing India may be able to knock out the Indian, American and Jew hating Pakis/Taliban, and the exact time is yet to come.

[Ithaca-37]

"They want the global caliphate and to rule over all non Muslims.  I really hope India is able to knock out the Indian, American and Jew hating Pakis/Taliban, because no one else seems to have the guts to do so."

What has the world come to, when citizens of Israel and the United States feel compelled to cross their fingers and expect INDIA to come to their rescue.

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[syyuge]

Disunity and inaction among opponents emboldens muslamics.