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WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT HITLER'S WAR ON THE JEWS?
« on: April 04, 2007, 10:08:47 AM »
WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT HITLER'S WAR ON THE JEWS?

Here's the answer:

It's not the "numbers" of dead and the statistical data subject to discussion or debate.

It's not the fact that in many instances, other nations, groups, ethnicities, and faiths, suffered the same fate as did the Jews.

Nor is it whether or not some tiny minority of people a) earn their livings by exaggerating the Holocaust and constantly referring to it as the center of the Universe; or b) earn their livings by denying that the Holocaust ever existed; all the while insisting that their reasoning proves that the Jews should be annihilated.

WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ANY HUMAN BEINGS ANYWHERE ON OUR PLANET TO LEARN ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST IS THIS:

Nazi Germany's genocide against the Jewish People, was the first time in all of recorded history, that the nation that was the most advanced of all, in every area of human development--science, medicine, technology, industry, the arts, and yes; social benefits such as nationwide social security benefits...used its full resources: political structure, military, treasury, justice and legal system, science, art, and technology, for the purposes of scapegoating, murdering, torturing, and imprisoning only ONE ethnic / religious population.

While endless atrocities, mass executions, and genocides have occurred throughout history, and continue even today,  the Nazi Holocaust was unique in that the sole preoccupation and industry of the most advanced and modern Western Christian Civilization, namely Germany, became the utilization of every state-of-the-art advancement in technology, arts, and sciences to literally annihilate the Jewish People permanently from the face of the Earth.

It is this almost overnight descent of the worlds' most modern and advanced Christian society, into the depths of the world's most savage, inhumane, and pagan depravity, that is the feature which must never be forgotten, and should be taught to every child. 

Nationality, religion, ethnicity, race, and / or metaphysics, are not crucial for one's learning of just how thin is the veneer of "civilization", as well as learning the truth about the science of "mind control" and "social engineering" which lead to loss of freedom and slavery.

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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2007, 10:13:08 AM »
Correct.

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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2007, 10:45:53 AM »
The politically correct in American high schools and colleges teach that the Holocaust was on the same level as the so-called European extermination of North American Indians.  They teach guilt to young Americans until they become so depressed that they need drugs and inter-racial sex just to get by in life.

What is your opinion on that?  I don't agree but I think it's always fair to criticize Anglos.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2007, 01:55:20 PM »

What is your opinion on that?  I don't agree but I think it's always fair to criticize Anglos.


The thread starter's opinion is very healthy from a Jewish perspective...especially if that Jew happens to live in Israel.

But, if that Jew happens to live in a Gentile nation...then the Gentiles certainly have the right to criticize the opinion of that Jew.

Unfortunately, most Gentile criticism of Jewish accepted Holocaust teaching/interpretation within Gentile Nations is met with, "YOU'RE A NAZI!"

This knee-jerk reaction by Jews to Gentile criticism is a very serious driving force behind recruitment for groups like StørmFrønt. Most White kids have been called racist Nazis so much...that they start to think..."Why don't I become a racist Nazi since I'm going to be accused of being one anyway?"

This is only a conflict because Jews are still living amongst the Gentile Nations.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2007, 02:09:03 PM »

It is this almost overnight descent of the worlds' most modern and advanced Christian society, into the depths of the world's most savage, inhumane, and pagan depravity, that is the feature which must never be forgotten, and should be taught to every child. 


Some people, with a Christian perspective, might say that the majority of Jews in pre-World War 2 Europe worked tirelessly to undermine Christianity with every opportunity they had. As a result, de-Christianized Europe was ripe to accept the barbarity of Nazism.

Some people, with a Christian perspective, might find similarities between what happened in Europe a century ago with what is happening in American today.

In modern America, 90% of politically active Jews (possibly even more) use all of their resources to undermine the Christianity of the nation. As America is de-Christianizing, it is also becoming become fertile ground for the next breed of neo-Nazi groups (like StørmFrønt).

This is only a conflict because Jews are still living amongst the Gentile Nations.
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2007, 05:27:53 PM »
Re:  "...Some people, with a Christian perspective, might say that the majority of Jews in pre-World War 2 Europe worked tirelessly to undermine Christianity with every opportunity they had..."

Some people, of whatever perspective, might say any damn thing imaginable.

Here are some other brilliant perspectives; they are obviously true, because some people said so...

"There is absolutely nothing about the Catholic Church that is Christian."

"Martin Luther was a heretic inspired by Satan, who has caused every human being outside the Church Of Rome to burn forever in a fiery Hell".

"The Jesuits were invented by THE JEWS!"...."as a secret branch of JEW-BOLSHEVIK-FREEMANSONRY!"

"The Civil War was fought to free the negro slaves"..."The South lost, because they were against G-d and Justice!"

"Senator Joseph McCarthy, was a drunken homosexual on morphine who ruined as many lives as he could, simply to promote his political life."

"Senator Joseph McCarthy, was a Saint who rooted out Communist infiltrators from the American government and media!"

"George Wallace is a name which means racist!"

"The Southern Poverty Law Center, works to keep America free of intolerance!...without them, we might not be free today!"

"Anyone who criticizes homosexuality is a homophobe!...and the government has a right to prosecute and punish them!"

"It's a fact, that THE JEWS own and control all the banks, and all of the media!"

"All Jews are Communists!"

"Jews are all rich...everybody knows they own all the banks....look at Alan Greenspan!...he proves that it's true!"

"Roosevelt was a Jew, whose real name was Rosenfeld."

And, last but not least, my favorite quote from Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi Minister of Propaganda:

"JESUS COULDN'T have been A JEW!"..."AND I DON'T NEED ANY FACTS TO KNOW THAT!"

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2007, 07:21:25 PM »
Re:  "...This is only a conflict because Jews are still living amongst the Gentile Nations..."

Din Rodef, I find your line of reasoning here absurd.

Your skewed thoughts reflect the following scenario, which is, and has always been, a unique feature of each and every totalitarian ideology.

"Once, there was a perfect world..."A Golden Age"...all races in their respective nations...both sexes with proper relations...one world in perfect harmony....nature and the earth in perfect balance and harmony...UNTIL!...."one day, THE JEW showed up!"[feel free to insert the imaginary boogeyman of your choice in this 'enemy of mankind' slot]......
Since that sad and tragic day, the world has been in the mess we see today...UNREST, CONFLICT...A WORLD OUT OF BALANCE!...So, only when THE JEWS go back where they belong, we pure and good gentiles can once again return to the Garden from whence we came!"

Read Psalms in The Bible.

It is clear that long before any Israelites were exiled from Israel, the gentile world hated Jews and slandered them exactly as is the case today.

Read for yourself -- that at the time that virtually all Jews lived in their own Kingdom in The Land Of Israel, King David wrote that the surrounding nations of the world claimed that Passover and the Crossing of The Reed Sea from Egypt never happened, that Moses never existed, that there was no G-d, no Commandments, and the Jews had simply stolen the land in which they were now living.

King David wrote in his Psalms that his people must ignore the taunts and slanders of the gentiles; relying only on the one G-d for protection and salvation.

Modern examples:

No Jews have ever lived in modern Saudi Arabia; yet it would be difficult to find another country more full of contempt, slander, hatred, and calls for the genocide of the Jewish People.

One of my gentile female professors during my college studies taught that "Oppression of Women" was an invention of THE JEWS!  She brainwashed her students to believe that one day, a bunch of bearded Jews in ancient Israel were sitting around the fire talking; they decided "we've got to do something to keep women in their place!"  Then, the craftiest of them spoke "...I've got it!  Let's stay up all night under this tent, and make up a huge bunch of lies about how this guy Moses talked to G-d and received laws and commandments which call for "women to know their place"...."Then, we will have created "The Patriarchy", and forever oppress women".

Sound nuts?

I so far fail to find any semblance of faith in Christ in any of your posts to date; only lip service followed by a passionate desire to "cleanse your world of Jews".

Just remember; you'll have to destroy every church in America to get the very last Jew out of your life, because each has drawings and statues of a Jew crucified on a cross.






 

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Re: WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT HITLER'S WAR ON THE JEWS?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2007, 07:36:47 PM »
 Hey Din, do you perhaps mean left wing Jews???  Should you be more specific in which Jews exactly are undermining Christianity??
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2007, 11:16:39 PM »
Fruit asks to noone in particular:  "...The politically correct in American high schools and colleges teach that the Holocaust was on the same level as the so-called European extermination of North American Indians.  They teach guilt to young Americans..."

Simply put, Fruit old boy...they are mentally ill frauds, all with "Teacher Certification", almost all of whom are unfit for much other than a half-hour of really bad sex.

The European settlers who encountered the Native Indian Americans, left extensive written documentation of the behaviors and customs of the numerous tribes.

Example:  Chief Tuscaloosa of Alabama, when he tired of one of his several wives, would grab them and either cut off their breasts with his knife, or cut off their noses, or all of the above.

Just because he felt like it.

It was very common for most tribes to have a tribal "transexual-drag queen male prostitute" for the warrior males to "play" with for a little "release".

Read Mark Twain's account of "The Noble Savage"...in which he "tells it like it is", saying they were the most filthy, disgusting, evil, cunning, stinking, and disease ridden race he'd ever seen.  He states that the "Indian brave" of the 18th Century novel, was a mere fiction invented for the edification of the European ignoramuses.

There is no other genocide or massacre in all of history that comes even close to equivalency when compared to the Nazi Holocaust; for the reasons I have already listed in a prior post.

Screw the politically correct bastards.

They will all one day account for their lying propagandizing of Western youth.

There's going to be HELL to pay; and PAYBACKS ARE HELL.

Thanks to European Explorers and Colonists, the "red" natives of the North & South American continents joined the ranks of civilization and learned morality.

Thanks to Christian missionizing, the "red" man is greatly elevated from his prior status as "wild Indian".

Virtually every group of minority reprobates who ceaselessly complain of their "oppression" & "inequality", owe the European whites for every thing in their lives that is decent; and owe only themselves for their own shortcomings.

Great old adage:  "You can't grow nothin' on poor soil".

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Re: WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT HITLER'S WAR ON THE JEWS?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2007, 11:23:52 PM »
I do not know why your obvious facts aren't more commonly known.

Edit: I was referring to Massuh's original post.
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2007, 01:54:27 AM »

What is your opinion on that?  I don't agree but I think it's always fair to criticize Anglos.


The thread starter's opinion is very healthy from a Jewish perspective...especially if that Jew happens to live in Israel.

But, if that Jew happens to live in a Gentile nation...then the Gentiles certainly have the right to criticize the opinion of that Jew.

Unfortunately, most Gentile criticism of Jewish accepted Holocaust teaching/interpretation within Gentile Nations is met with, "YOU'RE A NAZI!"

This knee-jerk reaction by Jews to Gentile criticism is a very serious driving force behind recruitment for groups like StørmFrønt. Most White kids have been called racist Nazis so much...that they start to think..."Why don't I become a racist Nazi since I'm going to be accused of being one anyway?"

This is only a conflict because Jews are still living amongst the Gentile Nations.

Have they been called Nazi's so much? I maybe accused 2 or 3 people out of thousands of people I have met and they had to really [censored] me off.  I don't think most white kids have been called racist Nazis...unless they shave their head and discuss racialism all the time, talk bad and act bad.

I think it is fair to look at the Holocaust from a logical perpective. It is not 'blasphemy' to question the holocaust and the Jewish account of what happened.  It's perfectly fine to ask questions and want proof and to see resources. The problem is, that the sites and sources mentioned (like the one mentioned by TruthTyper in another thread) are pure garbage. See http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/

Even a 5th grader can see the huge gaps in logic that their arguments make.  So most Holocaust deniers come up with proofs and reports which are completely fallible, even by the lowest of the low academic standards.  There are huge gaps in the logic, and kids do look at these sites and say see, here is proof, I knew those Jews were lying.  Then it just becomes twisted.  And then we start to get into relativism arguments like comparing it to any other event like the Indians or whatever.

I think the evidence is pretty damning.  They set up train tracks to crematoriums.  Even the deniers usually admit this in their models.  That shows the intent right there.  If that alone isn't foul beyond comprehension, we also have hundreds, maybe thousands of eye-witness accounts of what went down there as well as pictures of stacks of dead bodies.

If you want to look further, you could probably look at government census data for Jewish populations then and now.

It comes down to what Chaim talked about on the show this week about looking at it as a judge and not a lawyer.

From a judge looking at this you can't draw to many other conclusions.  The evidence is damning.

Then you have the deniers who get a book from the library and circle one or two questionable passages from a book about the Holocaust and say, see it's all a Jewish propoganda lie.

To me it's not about making kids feel guilty, it's about seeing the truth. Calling a duck a duck instead of a monkey.  It's a sin to aquit the guilty so easily...Let alone allow them to go on to try similar deeds or to influence children.

If someone was on trial for shoving 5 of your relatives into a woodchipper, and all the evidence points to show that he did it (machines on their property, remains of bodies etc...) would you get pretty pissed when someone says,

"Well, some Indians got shot once' so it's all relative and uh, they would have needed an extension chord to make the machine work, and there wasn't a hardware store within 30 miles!"

I also think it is sorta ironic how guys like 'Ernst Zundel' worked to free Germany from the 'blood libel' of the Holocaust.  When it was actually their 'blood libel' against Jews which was used to rationalize the Holocaust.

I don't believe in calling anyone who questions the Holocaust a Nazi, but I don't believe that a Nazi should be aquitted with sham arguments.  Someone who readily believes weak arguments against the Holocaust (with so much evidence that all did occur as accounted) probably is either mentally retarded, a Nazi or has Nazi leanings, or has future Nazi desires.

Nazis are a dirty bunch of treachorous faggots, may every last one of them be obliterated forever.


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Re: WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT HITLER'S WAR ON THE JEWS?
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2007, 03:55:36 AM »
Din Rodef, I'm getting tired of seeing your ignorant anti-Semitic comments about how a majority of European Jews tried to undermine Christianity and so on.

The majority of European Jews were NOT leftists. The majority of European Jews lived in countries like Poland and Hungary and were either religious or at least traditionalist. The Jewish leftists were the elitist, assimilated, intermarried Jews who were a distinct MINORITY of the Jewish people.

The Jews undermined Christianity!? You would not have Christianity if not for the Jews! ALL of the original Christians were Jews.

European Jews lived in ghettoes where they had little or no contact with their Christian neighbors. It was not the Jews who sought to convert Christians, it was ALWAYS the other way around.

THE EUROPEANS WHO UNDERMINED CHRISTIANITY WERE NOT THE JEWS, IN FACT, THE EUROPEANS WHO CONVINCED MOST CHRISTIANS TO ABANDON THEIR FAITH WERE THE ANTI-SEMITES LIKE VOLTAIRE, WAGNER AND THE NAZIS. THE UNIVERSITIES WITH "HIGHER CRITICISM" OF THE BIBLE WERE GENTILE INSTITUTIONS THAT GENERALLY DID NOT ADMIT JEWISH STUDENTS.

The Nazis were fanatically anti-Christian, and wanted to restore ancient German paganism. One of the main reasons for European anti-Semitism was that anti-Christian Europeans hated Christianity and blamed the Jews for the religion.

The Jew-hating Nazis, Communists, anarchists and other haters of morality succeeded in persuading the vast majority of Europeans to abandon religion, the Bible and all morals which were condemned as "Jewish weaknesses". The new amoral Europeans - the Nazis, the fascists, the Communists - were all ferociously anti-Semitic, and they were the ones who destroyed Europe, which is now an immoral cesspool.

Before that happened, Europe became the world's dominant continent because of the Jews. The Jews civilized Europe.

When most European Jews were murdered, the largest number of Jews left in the world lived in America, and then America became the world's dominant nation.

One final point to the Jewish writers here who keep saying that the number of Jews murdered in the Holocaust is subject to dispute and is not important. You couldn't be more wrong on all counts.

AT LEAST 6 MILLION JEWS WERE MURDERED IN THE HOLOCAUST, AND THE NUMBER IS PROBABLY HIGHER BECAUSE MANY JEWS WHO WERE MURDERED IN SOVIET TERRITORIES WERE NEVER COUNTED. THE NUMBER IS PROBABLY BETWEEN 6.5 MILLION AND 7 MILLION. BUT THE WIMPY JEWS ALWAYS HAVE TO BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO SHOW HOW "OBJECTIVE" AND "FAIR" THEY ARE AND SO JEWISH "SCHOLARS" USE THE MINIMAL NUMBER OF 6 MILLION.

ANYONE WHO CLAIMS THE NUMBER IS LOWER THAN 6 MILLION IS A HOLOCAUST-DENYING NAZI. PERIOD. AND I WILL BAN ANYONE WHO MAKES SUCH A NAZI STATEMENT IMMEDIATELY.

WE IN JTF DO NOT DEBATE NAZIS. WE SMASH THEIR FACES IN. NAZIS HAVE NO RIGHTS. NO RIGHT TO SPEAK AND NO RIGHT TO LIVE. THIS IS A KAHANIST TORAH ORGANIZATION, WHICH MEANS WE ARE AT WAR WITH AMALEK.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2007, 05:17:13 AM »
Yes you are right.
It is a huge, huge sin to make light of any of these numbers.
Especially for me.
I feel sick talking about the topic and don't think I'll comment on it for a while
lest I become like those self-hating kikes who bargain with the memories of fellow Jews
for politics or other purposes.

I'll just say this:

May every last drop of blood be avenged.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2007, 09:13:58 AM »
How do we create a right-wing interpretation of the holocaust which does not demonize all forms of ethnocentrism and nationalism?

This is what the left have done with it.

Holocaust denial is generally (probably always) politically motivated, and nearly always against Israel.
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2007, 10:24:27 AM »
Chaimfan ponders:  "...I do not know why your obvious facts aren't more commonly known..."

Actually, Chaimfan, you do know all too well why such is the case!


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Re: WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT HITLER'S WAR ON THE JEWS?
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2007, 10:48:59 AM »
JSullivan,

Dude, can I just say you rock? Your post was brilliant and dead on correct.

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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2007, 11:17:01 AM »
MackaB, vengence doesn't fix anything.

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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2007, 04:43:11 PM »
Some people, with a Christian perspective, might say that the majority of Jews in pre-World War 2 Europe worked tirelessly to undermine Christianity with every opportunity they had. As a result, de-Christianized Europe was ripe to accept the barbarity of Nazism.
Din, I have to second Jimmy. This is silly. European Jews weren't doing anything but existing. And European "Christians" hadn't been anything of the sort for well over a millenium, if ever.

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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2007, 09:32:43 PM »
MackaB, vengence doesn't fix anything.

Sounds like a liberal cliche. It fixes a lot of things and provides huge deterrance. They literally piss on Jewish graves. I'm disgusted that the memory of so many people is treated with such utter disdain.

Sometimes vengeance is justice.

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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2007, 09:33:54 PM »
I'm not saying that there is something wrong with justice, but I do believe that there is something wrong with vengence.

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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2007, 01:10:00 AM »
Hey Din, do you perhaps mean left wing Jews???  Should you be more specific in which Jews exactly are undermining Christianity??

Yes, and 90% of Jews vote liberal and socialist.

By voting socialism into America...they are undermining our Christian identity. They have helped to replace Christian America's dependence on G-d with a dependance on the state.

The idea of limited government is uniquely American. It is also uniquely Christian. When government becomes too big it destroys both America AND Christianity.

The vast majority of Jews residing in the US RELENTLESSLY attack the American notion of limited government. This is also a stealth attack against Christianity.

I don't believe that most Jews are intentionally attacking Christianity. Because in the end, they suffer too. But, their Jewish world perspective prevents them from ever fully understanding what a Christian America is supposed to be. Therefore, they don't understand how to preserve it. Their presence in the US is no longer necessary now that Israel exists...in fact, now their presence is becoming a burden.
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2007, 01:18:08 AM »
Re:  "...Some people, with a Christian perspective, might say that the majority of Jews in pre-World War 2 Europe worked tirelessly to undermine Christianity with every opportunity they had..."

Some people, of whatever perspective, might say any damn thing imaginable.

Here are some other brilliant perspectives; they are obviously true, because some people said so...

"There is absolutely nothing about the Catholic Church that is Christian."

"Martin Luther was a heretic inspired by Satan, who has caused every human being outside the Church Of Rome to burn forever in a fiery Hell".

"The Jesuits were invented by THE JEWS!"...."as a secret branch of JEW-BOLSHEVIK-FREEMANSONRY!"

"The Civil War was fought to free the negro slaves"..."The South lost, because they were against G-d and Justice!"

"Senator Joseph McCarthy, was a drunken homosexual on morphine who ruined as many lives as he could, simply to promote his political life."

"Senator Joseph McCarthy, was a Saint who rooted out Communist infiltrators from the American government and media!"

"George Wallace is a name which means racist!"

"The Southern Poverty Law Center, works to keep America free of intolerance!...without them, we might not be free today!"

"Anyone who criticizes homosexuality is a homophobe!...and the government has a right to prosecute and punish them!"

"It's a fact, that THE JEWS own and control all the banks, and all of the media!"

"All Jews are Communists!"

"Jews are all rich...everybody knows they own all the banks....look at Alan Greenspan!...he proves that it's true!"

"Roosevelt was a Jew, whose real name was Rosenfeld."

And, last but not least, my favorite quote from Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi Minister of Propaganda:

"JESUS COULDN'T have been A JEW!"..."AND I DON'T NEED ANY FACTS TO KNOW THAT!"

Massuh D...you're a brilliant guy

But, you just gave me a laundry list of moral equivocations.

Ya didn't address my direct point that Diaspora Jews living in the Christian Gentile Nations are undermining the Christianity of their hosts simply by their presence.

I don't want Jews to lose their Jewish perspective. I WANT THEM TO KEEP IT. The conflict only arises when their Jewish perspective collides with Christian perspective. This situation is gonna happen a lot in Christian Nations. The only way to truly resolve this problem is for Jews to leave the Gentiles Nations and return to Israel.

I'm not the only one saying that Jews must return to Israel....Hashem is also saying it....The bible is also saying it....Chaim says it every week.

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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2007, 01:24:50 AM »
Yes, and 90% of Jews vote liberal and socialist.
You seem to have confused Western European "Christians" with Jews.

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By voting socialism into America...they are undermining our Christian identity. They have helped to replace Christian America's dependence on G-d with a dependance on the state.
Source please?

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The idea of limited government is uniquely American. It is also uniquely Christian. When government becomes too big it destroys both America AND Christianity.
I think you could argue it's uniquely Western. Beyond that, there are plenty of Christians, whether or not in name only, who have supported various stripes of authoritarian and totalitarian regimes and concepts.

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The vast majority of Jews residing in the US RELENTLESSLY attack the American notion of limited government. This is also a stealth attack against Christianity. Their Jewish world perspective prevents them from ever fully understanding what a Christian America is supposed to be. Therefore, they don't understand how to preserve it. Their presence in the US is no longer necessary now that Israel exists...in fact, now their presence is becoming a burden.
Take your sh*t to StørmFrønt, Adolf.

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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2007, 01:32:29 AM »
Din Rodef, I'm getting tired of seeing your ignorant anti-Semitic comments about how a majority of European Jews tried to undermine Christianity and so on.

The majority of European Jews were NOT leftists. The majority of European Jews lived in countries like Poland and Hungary and were either religious or at least traditionalist. The Jewish leftists were the elitist, assimilated, intermarried Jews who were a distinct MINORITY of the Jewish people.

The Jews undermined Christianity!? You would not have Christianity if not for the Jews! ALL of the original Christians were Jews.

European Jews lived in ghettoes where they had little or no contact with their Christian neighbors. It was not the Jews who sought to convert Christians, it was ALWAYS the other way around.

THE EUROPEANS WHO UNDERMINED CHRISTIANITY WERE NOT THE JEWS, IN FACT, THE EUROPEANS WHO CONVINCED MOST CHRISTIANS TO ABANDON THEIR FAITH WERE THE ANTI-SEMITES LIKE VOLTAIRE, WAGNER AND THE NAZIS. THE UNIVERSITIES WITH "HIGHER CRITICISM" OF THE BIBLE WERE GENTILE INSTITUTIONS THAT GENERALLY DID NOT ADMIT JEWISH STUDENTS.

The Nazis were fanatically anti-Christian, and wanted to restore ancient German paganism. One of the main reasons for European anti-Semitism was that anti-Christian Europeans hated Christianity and blamed the Jews for the religion.

The Jew-hating Nazis, Communists, anarchists and other haters of morality succeeded in persuading the vast majority of Europeans to abandon religion, the Bible and all morals which were condemned as "Jewish weaknesses". The new amoral Europeans - the Nazis, the fascists, the Communists - were all ferociously anti-Semitic, and they were the ones who destroyed Europe, which is now an immoral cesspool.

Before that happened, Europe became the world's dominant continent because of the Jews. The Jews civilized Europe.

When most European Jews were murdered, the largest number of Jews left in the world lived in America, and then America became the world's dominant nation.

One final point to the Jewish writers here who keep saying that the number of Jews murdered in the Holocaust is subject to dispute and is not important. You couldn't be more wrong on all counts.

AT LEAST 6 MILLION JEWS WERE MURDERED IN THE HOLOCAUST, AND THE NUMBER IS PROBABLY HIGHER BECAUSE MANY JEWS WHO WERE MURDERED IN SOVIET TERRITORIES WERE NEVER COUNTED. THE NUMBER IS PROBABLY BETWEEN 6.5 MILLION AND 7 MILLION. BUT THE WIMPY JEWS ALWAYS HAVE TO BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO SHOW HOW "OBJECTIVE" AND "FAIR" THEY ARE AND SO JEWISH "SCHOLARS" USE THE MINIMAL NUMBER OF 6 MILLION.

ANYONE WHO CLAIMS THE NUMBER IS LOWER THAN 6 MILLION IS A HOLOCAUST-DENYING NAZI. PERIOD. AND I WILL BAN ANYONE WHO MAKES SUCH A NAZI STATEMENT IMMEDIATELY.

WE IN JTF DO NOT DEBATE NAZIS. WE SMASH THEIR FACES IN. NAZIS HAVE NO RIGHTS. NO RIGHT TO SPEAK AND NO RIGHT TO LIVE. THIS IS A KAHANIST TORAH ORGANIZATION, WHICH MEANS WE ARE AT WAR WITH AMALEK.

pfff...it just happened again...so predictable...so predictable

I'M SICK OF JEWS CALLING ME AN ANTI-SEMITE EVERY TIME I HAVE A DISAGREEMENT WITH THEM

Your malicious post is a perfect example of why Jews can't continue to live in Gentile Nations. The majority of Jews don't seem to even make an attempt to understand a perspective that is different than their own. You just called me a Nazi for disagreeing with you. Both of my grandfathers were shot fighting the Nazis. Do you have any idea how this makes me feel? Do you even care?

In my opinion, Jews can think whatever they want as long as they are living in Israel. But, if they are going to preach their Jewish perspective to ME while living in MY CHRISTIAN NATION...then I have every right to disagree and preach to them MY White Christian American perspective.

I support the Jews and their right to the Nation of Israel 1000%. I don't think this way because I have a love affair with Jews. I think this way because the Bible commands me to. However, I DO NOT SUPPORT THE JEWISH PRESENCE IN THE UNITED STATES (and neither does the bible BTW). There is no reason for the Diaspora to continue. Israel has been a nation for 60 years and it is time for the Jews to return home.

These words may sound harsh because many Jews have never heard a Gentile say them before. Well, it's time for some tough love. I'm not a Nazi...far from it...I'm just repeating exactly what the bible commands.

Din Rodef

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Re: WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT HITLER'S WAR ON THE JEWS?
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2007, 01:34:07 AM »
Yes, and 90% of Jews vote liberal and socialist.
You seem to have confused Western European "Christians" with Jews.

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By voting socialism into America...they are undermining our Christian identity. They have helped to replace Christian America's dependence on G-d with a dependance on the state.
Source please?

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The idea of limited government is uniquely American. It is also uniquely Christian. When government becomes too big it destroys both America AND Christianity.
I think you could argue it's uniquely Western. Beyond that, there are plenty of Christians, whether or not in name only, who have supported various stripes of authoritarian and totalitarian regimes and concepts.

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The vast majority of Jews residing in the US RELENTLESSLY attack the American notion of limited government. This is also a stealth attack against Christianity. Their Jewish world perspective prevents them from ever fully understanding what a Christian America is supposed to be. Therefore, they don't understand how to preserve it. Their presence in the US is no longer necessary now that Israel exists...in fact, now their presence is becoming a burden.
Take your sh*t to StørmFrønt, Adolf.

Chaimfan

You and I get along great in the forums...this is our first disagreement and you call me Adolf?