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Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« on: September 01, 2009, 11:29:49 PM »
Ahmadinejad's Imam: Islam Allows Raping, Torturing Prisoners
by Nissan Ratzlav-Katz

A highly influential Shi'a religious leader, with whom Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad regularly consults, apparently told followers last month that coercion by means of rape, torture and drugs is acceptable against all opponents of the Islamic regime.

Warning: The imam's question-and-answer session, partially reproduced here, contains disturbing descriptions of the sanctioned brutality.

In the wake of a series of publications worldwide regarding the rape and torture of dissident prisoners in Iran's jails, supporters of Ahmadinejad gathered with him in Jamkaran, a popular pilgrimage site for Shi'ite Muslims on the outskirts of Qom, on August 11, 2009. According to Iranian pro-democracy sources, the gathered crowd heard from Ayatollah Mohammad Taqi Mesbah-Yazdi and Ahmadinejad himself regarding the issue.

According to the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC), an independent Israeli intelligence analysis organization, Mesbah-Yazdi is considered Ahmadinejad's personal spiritual guide. A radical totalitarian even in Iranian terms, he holds messianic views, supports increasing Islamization, calls for violent suppression of domestic political opponents, and, according to the ITIC, "declared that obeying a president supported by the Supreme Leader was tantamount to obeying God."

At the Jamkaran gathering, Mesbah-Yazdi and Ahmadinejad answered questions about the rape and torture charges. The following text is from a transcript alleged by Iranian dissidents to be a series of questions and answers exchanged between the ayatollah and some of his supporters.

Asked if a confession obtained "by applying psychological, emotional and physical pressure" was "valid and considered credible according to Islam," Mesbah-Yazdi replied: "Getting a confession from any person who is against the Velayat-e Faqih ("Guardianship of the Islamic Jurists", or the regime of Iran's mullahs) is permissible under any condition." The ayatollah gave the identical answer when asked about confessions obtained through drugging the prisoner with opiates or addictive substances.

"Can an interrogator rape the prisoner in order to obtain a confession?" was the follow-up question posed to the Islamic cleric.

Mesbah-Yazdi answered: "The necessary precaution is for the interrogator to perform a ritual washing first and say prayers while raping the prisoner. If the prisoner is female, it is permissible to rape through the vagina or anus. It is better not to have a witness present. If it is a male prisoner, then it's acceptable for someone else to watch while the rape is committed."

This reply, and reports of the rape of teen male prisoners in Iranian jails, may have prompted the following question: "Is the rape of men and young boys considered sodomy?"
One aspect of these permitted rapes troubled certain questioners.

Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi: "No, because it is not consensual. Of course, if the prisoner is aroused and enjoys the rape, then caution must be taken not to repeat the rape."

A related issue, in the eyes of the questioners, was the rape of virgin female prisoners. In this instance, Mesbah-Yazdi went beyond the permissibility issue and described the Allah-sanctioned rewards accorded the rapist-in-the-name-of-Islam:

"If the judgment for the [female] prisoner is execution, then rape before execution brings the interrogator a spiritual reward equivalent to making the mandated Haj pilgrimage [to Mecca], but if there is no execution decreed, then the reward would be equivalent to making a pilgrimage to [the Shi'ite holy city of] Karbala."

One aspect of these permitted rapes troubled certain questioners: "What if the female prisoner gets pregnant? Is the child considered illegitimate?"

Mesbah-Yazdi answered: "The child borne to any weakling [a denigrating term for women - ed.] who is against the Supreme Leader is considered illegitimate, be it a result of rape by her interrogator or through intercourse with her husband, according to the written word in the Koran. However, if the child is raised by the jailer, then the child is considered a legitimate Shi'a Muslim."

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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 06:00:44 AM »
sick beyond wards.

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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 09:07:33 AM »
Sick quranimals.  >:(
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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 12:41:35 PM »
You won't hear obama complaining about Iran torturing their prisoners, yet he has the nerve to go after the CIA.
This muslim traitor needs to be removed from the White House by our top Generals. Congoress won't do it so hopefully
the Generals will, unless all of our Generals are supportive of obama, which I doubt they are.



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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 07:29:41 PM »
Obviously rape is ok if they condone mass murder. They have no boundaries.

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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2009, 07:42:30 PM »
When's Israel going to attack Iran, the regime needs out.

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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2009, 07:58:28 PM »
When's Israel going to attack Iran, the regime needs out.

I hope they will do so soon. If you think Israel should attack Iran, why is your avatar a picture of Netanyahu? Netanyahu hasn't done anything about Iran.

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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2009, 08:00:44 PM »
When's Israel going to attack Iran, the regime needs out.

Tomorrow IY'H

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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2009, 08:05:50 PM »
Because I like the pic

and hopefully soon.

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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2009, 09:36:28 PM »
Screw world opinion and turn Iran into a sheet of glass, Israel. They want nukes, let them have yours.  :israel:

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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2009, 12:35:23 AM »
Screw world opinion and turn Iran into a sheet of glass, Israel. They want nukes, let them have yours.  :israel:

I second that motion    :nuke:

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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2009, 06:24:32 AM »
I am browsing a Fatwa archive right now! They are WEIRD, cruel and full of disrespect owards Christians and Jews. There are fetwas saying there should not be Jews and Christians allowed South of Iraq and Jordan. If necessary they should be allowed a visa for 3 days and then be sent back or they have to pay tribute and be humiliated as third class dhimmis until they go back to their country. Synagogues and churches are NOT allowed to be built, old one mustn't be renovated or extended. Destroyed one have to be removed until there are no more signs of them left. That also includes a church/synagogue burnt by Muslim mob. They must NOT be rebuilt! There shall be said "go to your homes and pray there, building a church or synagogue would be like spreading disbelief in the own country" !!!!! :o

Here is a very good archive of different fatwas: http://www.islaminstitut.de/Fatawa-Archiv.39+M51ff0176f15.0.html
I will look for such an archive in English. Haven't found them until now.

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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2009, 06:30:29 AM »
http://www.islaminstitut.de/Anzeigen-von-Fatawa.43+M5eec9357f7e.0.html

Lift the veils! Ugly faces don't need to be covered says this fatwa!!!!  :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D And since so many Muslimas are b*ttugly - LIFT THE VEILS AND SHOW YOUR UGLY MUZZIE FACES!!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :P :P :P :P :P

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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2009, 07:57:30 AM »

You want to see whats really ugly.....click on the link


http://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/photos/personalities/hanan.html

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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2009, 08:23:57 AM »
Thank you, now I have lost my appetite, my hunger is gone...  :::D

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Re: Ahmadinejad's Imam: "Rape is OK"
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2009, 12:12:39 PM »
That palestinian Monster is hanan ashwari...she looks like a man, talks like a man and spends most of her time trying to justify the palestinians murdering Jews in Israel.

hanan's soul is evil and ten thousand times uglier than her face!



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P.S. someone should inject a gallon or 2 of estrogen into her veins.