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Salt Lake OKs gay rights laws with Mormon backing
« on: November 11, 2009, 02:39:12 PM »
SALT LAKE CITY – The Mormon church for the first time has announced its support of gay rights legislation, an endorsement that helped gain unanimous approval for Salt Lake city laws banning discrimination against gays in housing and employment.

The Utah-based church's support ahead of Tuesday night's vote came despite its steadfast opposition to gay marriage, reflected in the high-profile role it played last year in California's Proposition 8 ballot measure that barred such unions.

"The church supports these ordinances because they are fair and reasonable and do not do violence to the institution of marriage," Michael Otterson, the director of public affairs for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said.

Passage made Salt Lake City the first Utah community to prohibit bias based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Under the two new ordinances, it is illegal to fire someone from their job or evict someone from their residence because they are lesbian, bisexual, gay or transgender.

Utah lawmakers tend to quickly fall in line when the influential church makes a rare foray into legislative politics. So Tuesday's action could have broad effects in this highly conservative state where more than 80 percent of lawmakers and the governor are church members.

"What happened here tonight I do believe is a historic event," said Brandie Balken, director of the gay rights advocacy group Equality Utah. "I think it establishes that we can stand together on common ground that we don't have to agree on everything, but there are lot of things that we can work on and be allies."

But the church has pointed out an inherent dispute it has with gay relationships. Mormonism considers traditional marriages central to God's plan. Gays are welcome in church, but must remain celibate to retain church callings and full membership.

Its strong support for Proposition 8 in California last year drew a sharp reaction from gay rights supporters nationwide, with many protesting outside temples that singled out Mormons as the key culprits in restricting the rights of gay couples.

Since then, however, Utah's gay community has sought to engage church leaders in quiet conversations to help foster better understanding, said Valerie Larabee, executive director of the Utah Pride Center.

"I thought this conversation would never come to be while I was here in Salt Lake City," said Larabee, adding that the discussions have "shifted her perspective of what's possible" and could foreshadow a different relationship between the two sides.

But addressing the council on Tuesday, Otterson said the endorsement is not a shift in the church's position on gay rights and stressed it "remains unequivocally committed to defending the bedrock foundation of marriage between a man and a woman."

Church support for the ordinances is due in part to the way the legislation was drafted to protect those rights. Exceptions in the legislation allow churches to maintain, without penalty, religious principles and religion-based codes of conduct or rules.

"In drafting these ordinances, the city has granted commonsense rights that should be available to everyone, while safeguarding the crucial rights of religious organizations," Otterson said Tuesday.

Previous Utah legislation that sought statewide protections for the gay community did not contain those exceptions.

And although this was the church's first public endorsement of specific legislation, it is not the first time the church has voiced support for some gay rights. In August 2008 the church issued a statement saying it supports gay rights related to hospitalization, medical care, employment, housing or probate as long as they "do not infringe on the integrity of the traditional family or the constitutional rights of churches."

Last year, church leaders were silent on a package of gay rights bills known as the Common Ground Initiative, dooming them from the start, despite the bill having the support of the most popular governor in state history, Jon Huntsman. Huntsman resigned this summer to become U.S. ambassador to China.

His successor, Gov. Gary Herbert, has repeatedly said it shouldn't be illegal to discriminate against someone for being gay.
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Re: Salt Lake OKs gay rights laws with Mormon backing
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2009, 05:03:43 PM »
I'm glad they're anti-gay marriage, but the article doesn't explain how it's "Central to God's plan" for them. They don't believe a woman can go to heaven on her own. They believe she has to be married and she has to be married to a mormon man. They believe the men will become gods of their own planet and the women will be like new Eves of those planets, being pregnant and giving birth to babies for eternity. Mormons are crazy!

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Re: Salt Lake OKs gay rights laws with Mormon backing
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 05:32:11 PM »
   I recently had a thought. If faggot civil unions were used as a way for homesexuals to register themselves as the perverts they are, it would help identify them. The red cross could more effectively prevent them from poisoning the blood supply. Health insurance companies could charge them more or deny coverage from certain stds. Adoption agencies could use it to prevent them from causing psychological harm to orphans. Schools could use it to protect students from potential NAMBLA teachers.
   Why even limit registration to groups of two. The faggots could call it whatever they feel like, but without a genuine religious backing, it just won't be a marriage. Of course the faggots should not get tax benefits for registering, but at least they don't constitute the major tax payers in our society anyway.
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Re: Salt Lake OKs gay rights laws with Mormon backing
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2009, 05:34:59 PM »
To be honest the word faggot should not be used.
The word faggot means pile of sticks and that is not a good description of them.
Homosexual is a better descriptive word

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Re: Salt Lake OKs gay rights laws with Mormon backing
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2009, 05:35:05 PM »
That's so gay :P

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Re: Salt Lake OKs gay rights laws with Mormon backing
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 05:39:06 PM »
To be honest the word faggot should not be used.
The word faggot means pile of sticks and that is not a good description of them.
Homosexual is a better descriptive word

Yes the word has many meanings including a loud obnoxious Harley rider.
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Re: Salt Lake OKs gay rights laws with Mormon backing
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2009, 09:50:19 PM »
I'm glad they're anti-gay marriage, but the article doesn't explain how it's "Central to G-d's plan" for them. They don't believe a woman can go to heaven on her own. They believe she has to be married and she has to be married to a mormon man. They believe the men will become gods of their own planet and the women will be like new Eves of those planets, being pregnant and giving birth to babies for eternity. Mormons are crazy!

Where can I sign up for becoming a mormon? I like it!

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Re: Salt Lake OKs gay rights laws with Mormon backing
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2009, 09:54:43 PM »
Where can I sign up for becoming a mormon? I like it!

I think you have to find a magic underwear depot.  :::D