German Kahanist, you there?

[The One and Only Mo]

Yo, you there man? Haven't seen you around today. I read your post about that guy who has your info, hope you're not sliced up in a garbage can somewhere. But seriously, I am a shtickel concerned. 'Tis the Jewish mother in me.

[Moshe92]

He last logged in only 12 hours ago. I wouldn't be worried.

[SW]

Shalom,

I am fine. I am just a bit busy with my new JDL Germany. Some people talk crap about me and I don't know if it's true or not but they told my girlfriend some crap and she believed it. She is Polish- German. There are a lot things she doesn't know. I think she wouldn't have any contact to me if she would know that I am a Zionist or the founder of an radical organization. It's all so complicated. The guy from Texas was right when he said JDL means everything or nothing. For me it means a lot! We have a real chance.

Again, I am fine, just a bit busy.

Shalom

Steven

[The One and Only Mo]

Shalom,

I am fine. I am just a bit busy with my new JDL Germany. Some people talk crap about me and I don't know if it's true or not but they told my girlfriend some crap and she believed it. She is Polish- German. There are a lot things she doesn't know. I think she wouldn't have any contact to me if she would know that I am a Zionist or the founder of an radical organization. It's all so complicated. The guy from Texas was right when he said JDL means everything or nothing. For me it means a lot! We have a real chance.

Again, I am fine, just a bit busy.

Shalom

Steven

When I plan my trip to Germany I'm crashing at your place.

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

                                                  בס"ד   

Shalom,

I am fine. I am just a bit busy with my new JDL Germany. Some people talk crap about me and I don't know if it's true or not but they told my girlfriend some crap and she believed it. She is Polish- German. There are a lot things she doesn't know. I think she wouldn't have any contact to me if she would know that I am a Zionist or the founder of an radical organization. It's all so complicated. The guy from Texas was right when he said JDL means everything or nothing. For me it means a lot! We have a real chance.

Again, I am fine, just a bit busy.

Shalom

Steven

When I plan my trip to Germany I'm crashing at your place.

Germany?

[The One and Only Mo]

                                                  בס"ד   

Shalom,

I am fine. I am just a bit busy with my new JDL Germany. Some people talk crap about me and I don't know if it's true or not but they told my girlfriend some crap and she believed it. She is Polish- German. There are a lot things she doesn't know. I think she wouldn't have any contact to me if she would know that I am a Zionist or the founder of an radical organization. It's all so complicated. The guy from Texas was right when he said JDL means everything or nothing. For me it means a lot! We have a real chance.

Again, I am fine, just a bit busy.

Shalom

Steven

When I plan my trip to Germany I'm crashing at your place.

Germany?

It could happen....

[SW]

Shalom,

I am fine. I am just a bit busy with my new JDL Germany. Some people talk crap about me and I don't know if it's true or not but they told my girlfriend some crap and she believed it. She is Polish- German. There are a lot things she doesn't know. I think she wouldn't have any contact to me if she would know that I am a Zionist or the founder of an radical organization. It's all so complicated. The guy from Texas was right when he said JDL means everything or nothing. For me it means a lot! We have a real chance.

Again, I am fine, just a bit busy.

Shalom

Steven

When I plan my trip to Germany I'm crashing at your place.

That sounds great! Maybe we could meet.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

Ron is absolutely right. After the holocaust, no Jew should ever visit Germany. Of course, there are rare cases of righteous Germans like Ulli and German Kahanist. But the overwhelming majority of Germans are very anti-Semitic and very anti-Israel, which means that they still hold the views of their grandparents who murdered over 6 million Jews. Most Germans today do not wear swastikas or call themselves Nazis. But their attitude toward Jews is a Nazi attitude. They want the Arab Muslim Nazis to destroy Israel - meaning they want another holocaust but this time they want the Arabs to do the dirty work. And this Nazi view is not just prevalent in Germany, it is prevalent throughout Europe.

Mo, you have a strong tendency to tolerate evil. You have written how you can enjoy music composed by evil people, or go to movies created by evil people and so on. Now you are willing to visit Germany after what they did to over 6 million of your brothers and sisters. That is horrific. I hope you change your ways for your sake.

[ProudAndZionist]

I think he is just interested in the German culture and land. (Good night for you all)

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

                                                            בס"ד

What's righteous about Steven?
I might add that no Jew should even go to the Galut, no matter if it's Germany or Angola (though the difference is absolutely clear, I expect some minimum morality and self-respect).

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

                                                           בס"ד

What's righteous about Steven?
I might add that no Jew should even go to the Galut, no matter if it's Germany or Angola (though the difference is absolutely clear, I expect some minimum morality and self-respect).

בס''ד

רון, אל תתחיל מלחמה אישית כאן עם סטיבן. יש פה נושא רציני ואנו חייבים להראות לאחים היהודים שלנו למה זה אסור לבקר בגרמניה או בגלות בכלל.

Steven is righteous because he supports Israel and the Jewish people, and he does so courageously. But Steven does not represent the vast majority of Germans.

Jews are required to live ONLY in the Land of Israel. And they are not permitted to even visit the Galut (the exile, the lands which are outside of Israel) except for certain very rare circumstances.

This rule is especially true for a nation like Germany, which committed the cruelest and most monstrous crime in human history against the Jewish people.

[FreedomFighter08]

There are exceptions though. How can somebody live in Israel if his life and family is in America? Doesn't seem right. When the Torah says "Israel", what exactly does it mean? Is it from river to river, or from sea to river? The biblical Israel is different from current Israel.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

There are exceptions though. How can somebody live in Israel if his life and family is in America? Doesn't seem right. When the Torah says "Israel", what exactly does it mean? Is it from river to river, or from sea to river? The biblical Israel is different from current Israel.

The exceptions to living in Israel do not apply to you or to other Jews in this generation. The sole exceptions are to find a wife (assuming there are no women available in Israel), to study Torah (assuming it is impossible to study Torah properly in Israel), or to earn enough money to survive (assuming you cannot survive in Israel). These exceptions were intended for the period in which there was no Jewish state and conditions in the Land of Israel were horrendous.

Today, there are no excuses. You can find a wife in Israel (there are more eligible Jewish women in Israel than in America, and Jewish women in Israel are beautiful); you can study Torah in Israel (there are far more yeshivot in Israel than in America, and the level of Torah learning in Israel is far more advanced than in America); and you can survive financially (the average Israeli Jew is better off financially than the average American).

[Every Jew AK47]

That little spec of land is Israel?  I thought Israel spanned from Gaza, West Bank, the Yordan, Syria, south Lebanon, Western Iraq, Northern Saudi Arabia, Sinai Peninsula...

This is the true biblical Israel and it is our land, but it was stolen by Roman, Turks  and Arab barbarians.  We must regain our terrirtory and throw these islamic savages back into southern Saudi arabia and Yemen where they belong.  While we are at it, we should blow up Mecca and destroy that ugly black stone.

I cannot return to Israel until all the communists and muslims are thrown out of the country.  ANother option is we create a revolution and a movement where JEws will fight to take back their land, then I would be ready to join that movement.  Until then,  Israel is not truly Israel of our forefathers, but a land filled with imposters.   

I am praying that more Orthodox Jews join the military, work successful jobs.  The government has tried making the Orthodox weak, by giving them government money so that they can spend all day in prayer and not get  involved in politics , business or any other type of progressive activity that could counter the secular government.  But  I am happy to see that many of Israel's devout are waking up and fighting off the stigma of the socialist secular government.  Even last week an MK spoke out against the government's ban on free speech.   He said he wanted to honor Rabbi Kahane on the anniversary of his assasination as a great figure for Israeli freedom.  There is a resistance movement and its starting to make its way to the higher levels. 

[Every Jew AK47]

I really think its time that Jews reclaim Gaza and West Bank..  I am sick of all these "piss talks".   Tell Mahmoud Abbas that we will pay for his plane ticket to Tahiti, where he can indulge in all his stolen wealth from Israeli/UN funds, just like his fagg-t hero Arafat, who thankfully died of AIDS.

Free Gaza = Get rid of arabs, give it back to Jews.
Free West Bank, end the occupation = Get rid of arab occupier, send them back to Saudi either in planes, trucks or coffins.

I do personally think the whole world belongs to G-d, but the kingdom of Israel , the lands i Mentioned, is the true holy land. 

Also, Israel must end gay pride parades, hang all members of SHalom AKshav and kick all arabs out of the country, before I Call it my home.

I think we should imprison all homosexuals in Israel, as the Jewish race is too small and these people promote filth, pollution and will result in the sterilization of our race.

[The One and Only Mo]

בס''ד

Ron is absolutely right. After the holocaust, no Jew should ever visit Germany. Of course, there are rare cases of righteous Germans like Ulli and German Kahanist. But the overwhelming majority of Germans are very anti-Semitic and very anti-Israel, which means that they still hold the views of their grandparents who murdered over 6 million Jews. Most Germans today do not wear swastikas or call themselves Nazis. But their attitude toward Jews is a Nazi attitude. They want the Arab Muslim Nazis to destroy Israel - meaning they want another holocaust but this time they want the Arabs to do the dirty work. And this Nazi view is not just prevalent in Germany, it is prevalent throughout Europe.

Mo, you have a strong tendency to tolerate evil. You have written how you can enjoy music composed by evil people, or go to movies created by evil people and so on. Now you are willing to visit Germany after what they did to over 6 million of your brothers and sisters. That is horrific. I hope you change your ways for your sake.

Sorry, you took that seriously, maybe I should be more careful with how I word things next time, but I don't plan on leaving North America for a very long time and I would never go to Germany. As far as the music and movies and popular culture I like, I think I lead a balanced life. I'm not that much different from the rest of the Modern Orthodox world. It's tough growing up in these times, and as a Baal Teshuva, I would think you would understand.

[Spectator]

I cannot return to Israel until all the communists and muslims are thrown out of the country.  ANother option is we create a revolution and a movement where JEws will fight to take back their land, then I would be ready to join that movement.  Until then,  Israel is not truly Israel of our forefathers, but a land filled with imposters.   

We in Israel need more good Jews like you to throw the hostile people out of the country. They won't go by themselves. Every single good Jew who makes aliya brings some change. If you can't live in Israel for personal reasons, at least you can accept Israeli citizenship and vote in Israeli embassy for National Union. If you do it and persuade your friends to do the same, it can really make difference!

[Spectator]

By the way, what I said to DeathToIslam I can say to all the other Jews here who currently live in US. If you can't make aliya for some reasons, is it technically possible to accept Israeli citizenship and continue to live in US but have the right to vote in Israeli elections? 

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

Ron is absolutely right. After the holocaust, no Jew should ever visit Germany. Of course, there are rare cases of righteous Germans like Ulli and German Kahanist. But the overwhelming majority of Germans are very anti-Semitic and very anti-Israel, which means that they still hold the views of their grandparents who murdered over 6 million Jews. Most Germans today do not wear swastikas or call themselves Nazis. But their attitude toward Jews is a Nazi attitude. They want the Arab Muslim Nazis to destroy Israel - meaning they want another holocaust but this time they want the Arabs to do the dirty work. And this Nazi view is not just prevalent in Germany, it is prevalent throughout Europe.

Mo, you have a strong tendency to tolerate evil. You have written how you can enjoy music composed by evil people, or go to movies created by evil people and so on. Now you are willing to visit Germany after what they did to over 6 million of your brothers and sisters. That is horrific. I hope you change your ways for your sake.

Sorry, you took that seriously, maybe I should be more careful with how I word things next time, but I don't plan on leaving North America for a very long time and I would never go to Germany. As far as the music and movies and popular culture I like, I think I lead a balanced life. I'm not that much different from the rest of the Modern Orthodox world. It's tough growing up in these times, and as a Baal Teshuva, I would think you would understand.

בס''ד

Mo, I apologize if I phrased my response to you too harshly. Please forgive me.

However, I had no way of knowing that you were not serious when you wrote that you intended to visit Germany. So I had to respond. But my response may have been too harsh, considering that you are a good and loyal Jew.

Our great leader Rabbi Meir Kahane often quoted Bereshit Raba in the Talmud: "Love without criticism is not true love". Because we love our fellow Jews, we criticize them when they do or say things that can be harmful. But the reason for the criticism is because of ahavat yisrael, love of the Jewish people. Of course, we have to be careful not to criticize too much. 

[Moshe92]

That little spec of land is Israel?  I thought Israel spanned from Gaza, West Bank, the Yordan, Syria, south Lebanon, Western Iraq, Northern Saudi Arabia, Sinai Peninsula...

This is the true biblical Israel and it is our land, but it was stolen by Roman, Turks  and Arab barbarians.  We must regain our terrirtory and throw these islamic savages back into southern Saudi arabia and Yemen where they belong.  While we are at it, we should blow up Mecca and destroy that ugly black stone.

I cannot return to Israel until all the communists and muslims are thrown out of the country.  ANother option is we create a revolution and a movement where JEws will fight to take back their land, then I would be ready to join that movement.  Until then,  Israel is not truly Israel of our forefathers, but a land filled with imposters.   

I am praying that more Orthodox Jews join the military, work successful jobs.  The government has tried making the Orthodox weak, by giving them government money so that they can spend all day in prayer and not get  involved in politics , business or any other type of progressive activity that could counter the secular government.  But  I am happy to see that many of Israel's devout are waking up and fighting off the stigma of the socialist secular government.  Even last week an MK spoke out against the government's ban on free speech.   He said he wanted to honor Rabbi Kahane on the anniversary of his assasination as a great figure for Israeli freedom.  There is a resistance movement and its starting to make its way to the higher levels. 

Israel is always our country, even if Muslims or leftists are ruling over it.

What you wrote about the "Orthodox" is not true. Most religious Jews in Israel are either dati leumi (national religious) or haredi (black hat). National religious Israelis have jobs, and many are involved in politics. Some haredim also work professionally and are involved in politics, mainly with the Agudat Yisrael party. It's true that many haredim study full time and receive money to do so from the government or from charities, but they do so because it's their own choice, not because the government makes them do so.

[Every Jew AK47]

Israel is always our country, even if Muslims or leftists are ruling over it.

What you wrote about the "Orthodox" is not true. Most religious Jews in Israel are either dati leumi (national religious) or haredi (black hat). National religious Israelis have jobs, and many are involved in politics. Some haredim also work professionally and are involved in politics, mainly with the Agudat Yisrael party. It's true that many haredim study full time and receive money to do so from the government or from charities, but they do so because it's their own choice, not because the government makes them do so.

Well forgive me if what I said wasn't  true.  I guess part was speculation.  I have talked with many secular JEws in Israel and they complain how the Orhthodox are not working, but living off of government money .  Since, I have not been to Israel, I don't know what to believe.  I was fearful that what they are saying is true. However, this could just be an act for the secular JEws to make war against the religious JEws. IT seems there is alot of hatred of religious Jews, by the secular left in Israel.  My personal belief is, that no Jew on earth should live by government handouts.  To be spiritual, we must also work a job of some sort, unless we are in a nation that truly supports our reliigon.   It seems the current Israeli government and a lot of the tax money that is used to help keep some Jews from working, is blood money.  Because, some of this tax money comes from self-hating Jews, Arabs and other imposters who do not belong in Eretz Yisroel.

The more religious and Zionist Jews working jobs, involved in politics, fighitng in the military, the sooner Israel will be a true Jewish state.

[Moshe92]

Israel is always our country, even if Muslims or leftists are ruling over it.

What you wrote about the "Orthodox" is not true. Most religious Jews in Israel are either dati leumi (national religious) or haredi (black hat). National religious Israelis have jobs, and many are involved in politics. Some haredim also work professionally and are involved in politics, mainly with the Agudat Yisrael party. It's true that many haredim study full time and receive money to do so from the government or from charities, but they do so because it's their own choice, not because the government makes them do so.

Well forgive me if what I said wasn't  true.  I guess part was speculation.  I have talked with many secular JEws in Israel and they complain how the Orhthodox are not working, but living from off of government money .  Since, I have not been to Israel, I don't know what to believe.  I was fearful that what they are saying is true. However, this could just be an act for the secular JEws to make war against the religious JEws. IT seems there is alot of hatred of religious Jews, by the secular left in Israel.  My personal belief is, that no Jew one arth should live by government handouts.  To be spiritual, we must also work a job of some sort, unless we are in a nation that truly supports our reliigon.   It seems the current Israeli government and a lot of the tax money that is used to help keep some Jews from working, is blood money.  Because, some of this tax money comes from self-hating Jews, Arabs and other imposters who do not belong in Eretz Yisroel.

I agree with you. Maybe a small portion of Israeli Jews should be able to study full time, but the vast majority of Jews should work professionally. What is even worse is that the government in Israel tries to help Arabs economically. Netanyahu has been talking about "improving the Palestinian economy." I was once listening to a Hebrew speech by Rabbi Kahane, and he talked about a Bedoin family in Israel. The family was a man with six wives and 48 children, and they received a check every month from the Israeli government for each individual child.

[Every Jew AK47]

Moshe, I too read about the Bedouin polygamist.. IT was nothing less than disgusting.. THey ought to throw his sorry arss into Kuwait, Saudi or one of the wealthy arab gulf states.  Let their oil money support this horny , uneducated freeloader.   Perhaps its time Israel does what China does (TO ARABS only), make a child tax , for every arab kid an arab has, they must pay additional tax for each child.  I bet if they do that, many Bedouins, may find the time to rubber up. lOL.. 

Israel's tax rates are already very high and part of it is helping to support the freedloading, bloodsucking, Jew hating Arabs in the country..  I wonder to myself, would my leaders take my hard earned tax money and redistribute to bloodthirsty arab warmongers?

As a matter of fact, the Israelis have contributed a lot to building the towns in West Bank  and Gaza.  Israeli tax money supports purchasing weapons that are given to Palestinains, which are in turn used to kill Jews..  The whole Palesitnains crisis is partly funded by Jewish dollars.  Its insanity.  Israeli tax money pays for the bulldozing of Jewish communities and it pays for hte prisons that imprison Jewish nationalists.   Sometimes I wonder, should i pay the high taxes in Israel?     

Heres another reason I cannot live in Israel, Jews are not allowed to possess guns, but arabs have no trouble possessing them.  Arabs can smuggle the guns from their wild West Bank brothers, who have the right to own guns, which Jews in Israel are denied.  Yes , I know the military has weapons , but that doesn't help the average citizen who is not in the IDF.    Look at the murder of the boys at the Merkaz Ha Rav Kook Yeshiva, how did that Pal-estinian Nazi sand turd, get access to an assault rifle when he wasn't in the IDF?  Why were those Jewish boys unarmed and just sitting ducks for the aggresion of a wild arab savage?   Every Jew in Israel should have the right to bear arms, but instead we are reduced to meager subjects under the socialist regime.  I don't care that there are armed people all over.  I don't trust anyone to depend my life, except myself..  As wit hthe Yeshiva, I guess those armed Israeli troops were nowhere to be found, when they were needed.   I cannot live in a country where I cannot pack a .45 with me everywhere I go.