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34.5 percent of young African American men are unemployed
« on: November 24, 2009, 10:49:37 AM »
I thought they would all have stimulus jobs building windmills?

Maybe this is the structural unemployment that Obama wants.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/23/AR2009112304092_pf.html



Blacks hit hard by economy's punch
34.5 percent of young African American men are unemployed

By V. Dion Haynes
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 24, 2009

These days, 24-year-old Delonta Spriggs spends much of his time cooped up in his mother's one-bedroom apartment in Southwest Washington, the TV blaring soap operas hour after hour, trying to stay out of the streets and out of trouble, held captive by the economy. As a young black man, Spriggs belongs to a group that has been hit much harder than any other by unemployment.

Joblessness for 16-to-24-year-old black men has reached Great Depression proportions -- 34.5 percent in October, more than three times the rate for the general U.S. population. And last Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that unemployment in the District, home to many young black men, rose to 11.9 percent from 11.4 percent, even as it stayed relatively stable in Virginia and Maryland.

His work history, Spriggs says, has consisted of dead-end jobs. About a year ago, he lost his job moving office furniture, and he hasn't been able to find steady work since. This summer he completed a construction apprenticeship program, he says, seeking a career so he could avoid repeating the mistake of selling drugs to support his 3-year-old daughter. So far the most the training program has yielded was a temporary flagger job that lasted a few days.

"I think we're labeled for not wanting to do nothing -- knuckleheads or hardheads," said Spriggs, whose first name is pronounced Dee-lon-tay. "But all of us ain't bad."

Construction, manufacturing and retail experienced the most severe job losses in this down economy, losses that are disproportionately affecting men and young people who populated those sectors. That is especially playing out in the District, where unemployment has risen despite the abundance of jobs in the federal government.

Traditionally the last hired and first fired, workers in Spriggs's age group have taken the brunt of the difficult economy, with cost-conscious employers wiping out the very apprenticeship, internship and on-the-job-training programs that for generations gave young people a leg up in the work world or a second chance when they made mistakes. Moreover, this generation is being elbowed out of entry-level positions by older, more experienced job seekers on the unemployment rolls who willingly trade down just to put food on the table.

The jobless rate for young black men and women is 30.5 percent. For young blacks -- who experts say are more likely to grow up in impoverished racially isolated neighborhoods, attend subpar public schools and experience discrimination -- race statistically appears to be a bigger factor in their unemployment than age, income or even education. Lower-income white teens were more likely to find work than upper-income black teens, according to the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University, and even blacks who graduate from college suffer from joblessness at twice the rate of their white peers.

Young black women have an unemployment rate of 26.5 percent, while the rate for all 16-to-24-year-old women is 15.4 percent.

Victoria Kirby, 22, has been among that number. In the summer of 2008, a D.C. publishing company where Kirby was interning offered her a job that would start upon her graduation in May 2009 from Howard University. But the company withdrew the offer in the fall of 2008 when the economy collapsed.

Kirby said she applied for administrative jobs on Capitol Hill but was told she was overqualified. She sought a teaching position in the D.C. public schools through the Teach for America program but said she was rejected because of a flood of four times the usual number of applicants.

Finally, she went back to school, enrolling in a master's of public policy program at Howard. "I decided to stay in school two more years and wait out the recession," Kirby said.
On a tightrope

The Obama administration is on a tightrope, balancing the desire to spend billions more dollars to create jobs without adding to the $1.4 trillion national deficit. Yet some policy experts say more attention needs to be paid to the intractable problems of underemployed workers -- those who like Spriggs may lack a high school diploma, a steady work history, job-readiness skills or a squeaky-clean background.

"Increased involvement in the underground economy, criminal activity, increased poverty, homelessness and teen pregnancy are the things I worry about if we continue to see more years of high unemployment," said Algernon Austin, a sociologist and director of the race, ethnicity and economy program at the Economic Policy Institute, which studies issues involving low- and middle-income wage earners.

Earlier this month, District officials said they will use $3.9 million in federal stimulus funds to provide 19 weeks of on-the-job training to 500 18-to-24-year-olds. But even those who receive training often don't get jobs.

"I thought after I finished the [training] program, I'd be working. I only had three jobs with the union and only one of them was longer than a week," Spriggs, a tall slender man wearing a black Nationals cap, said one afternoon while sitting at the table in the living room/dining room in his mother's apartment. "It has you wanting to go out and find other ways to make money. . . . [Lack of jobs is why] people go out hustling and doing what they can to get by."

"Give me a chance to show that I can work. Just give me a chance," added Spriggs, who is on probation for drug possession. "I don't want to think negative. I know the economy is slow. You got to crawl before you walk. I got to be patient. My biggest problem [which prompted the effort to sell drugs] is not being patient."

The economy's seismic shift has been an equal-opportunity offender, hurting various racial and ethnic groups, economic classes, ages, and white- and blue-collar job categories. Nevertheless, 16-to-24-year-olds face heavier losses, with a 19.1 percent unemployment rate, about nine points higher than the national average for the general population.

Their rate of employment in October was 44.9 percent, the lowest level in 61 years of record keeping, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Employment for men in their 20s and early 30s is at its lowest level since the Great Depression, according to the Center for Labor Market Studies.
Troubling consequences

Unemployment among young people is particularly troubling, economists say, because the consequences can be long-lasting. This might be the first generation that does not keep up with its parents' standard of living. Jobless teens are more likely to be jobless twenty-somethings. Once forced onto the sidelines, they likely will not catch up financially for many years. That is the case even for young people of all ethnic groups who graduate from college.

Lisa B. Kahn, an economics professor at Yale University who studied graduates during recessions in the 1980s, determined that the young workers hired during a down economy generally start off with lower wages than they otherwise would have and don't recover for at least a decade.

"In your first job, you're accumulating skills on how to do the job, learning by doing and getting training. If you graduate in a recession, you're in a [lesser] job, wasting your time," she said. "Once you switch into the job you should be in, you don't have the skills for that job."

Some studies examining how employers review black and white job applicants suggest that discrimination may be at play.

"Black men were less likely to receive a call back or job offer than equally qualified white men," said Devah Pager, a sociology professor at Princeton University, referring to her studies a few years ago of white and black male job applicants in their 20s in Milwaukee and New York. "Black men with a clean record fare no better than white men just released from prison."

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Re: 34.5 percent of young African American men are unemployed
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2009, 11:16:31 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2009, 11:43:34 AM »
What a winner Delonta sounds like.

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 11:44:53 AM »
What a winner Delonta sounds like.
hahahahahahaha ;D  yeah I was going to comment on some of the names,lol.

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Re: 34.5 percent of young African American men are unemployed
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 01:46:58 PM »


"Black men were less likely to receive a call back or job offer than equally qualified white men," said Devah Pager, a sociology professor at Princeton University, referring to her studies a few years ago of white and black male job applicants in their 20s in Milwaukee and New York. "Black men with a clean record fare no better than white men just released from prison."

That right there is a lie!!  There always the first hired and never fired.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 02:15:13 PM »


"Black men were less likely to receive a call back or job offer than equally qualified white men," said Devah Pager, a sociology professor at Princeton University, referring to her studies a few years ago of white and black male job applicants in their 20s in Milwaukee and New York. "Black men with a clean record fare no better than white men just released from prison."

That right there is a lie!!  There always the first hired and never fired.
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Re: 34.5 percent of young African American men are unemployed
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 03:29:23 PM »
This is not as bad as the number of young Turkish unemployed in Germany, which I call social-welfare-suckers.

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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2009, 03:30:34 PM »
Are they sucking up U.S. taxpayers' money for unemployment?

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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2009, 01:46:45 AM »
It seems the American prisons are full of them from watching t.v.New statistics out in the UK would confirm the same story here.

A shocking 75 percent of all black males between the ages of 18 and 35 are now on the police’s DNA database, according to a report published by the Human Genetics Commission.

According to the Home Office, the national DNA database is a “key police intelligence tool” which helps to “quickly identify offenders, make earlier arrests, secure more convictions and provide critical investigative leads for police investigations.”

The disproportionate number of young black males on the database is of serious concern to law enforcement figures and sociologists alike, although the leftist bleating of “racism” being to blame, can be dismissed out of hand.

The National Policing Improvement Agency (NPIA), which controls the DNA database, makes it very clear that DNA is only taken when people are arrested for a recordable offence and not when they are “stopped and searched.”

The controlled media has claimed that the disproportionate racial statistics are the result of more black people being “stopped and searched” — but the NPIA guidelines make it clear that merely being stopped and searched does not lead to inclusion on the database.

According to the NPIA, the UK’s database “is the largest of any country: 5.2% of the UK population is on the database compared with 0.5% in the USA.”

The NPIA also claims that between April and September 2009, the National DNA Database (NDNAD) produced 112 matches to murders, 286 to rapes and 17,984 to other crime scenes.

“The National DNA Database continues to provide police with the most effective tool for the prevention and detection of crime since the development of fingerprint analysis over 100 years ago,” the NPIA says.

“Since 1998, more than 300,000 crimes have been detected with the aid of the Database, reassuring the public that offenders are more likely to be brought to justice.”

Some recent analysis carried out by ACRO (the ACPO Criminal Records Office), found that in 2008/09 the NDNAD linked 818 individuals to DNA found at murder/ manslaughter or rape crime scenes. 82 of these individuals had their DNA retained on the NDNAD despite not having a conviction.

The senior detectives in each case were asked whether the DNA match was important in the case. In 43 of the 82 cases the match was described as important. This averages once every 8.5 days.

* Meanwhile, it has been reported that Scotland Yard has officially stopped using the term “gang rape” out of fear of being accused of “racism.”

A new Scotland Yard paper on the phenomenon — of whom the perpetrators were earlier revealed to be 92 percent ethnic – now uses the term “multi-perpetrator rape” when describing sex attacks involving two or more culprits.

According to reports, the police said the wording had been carefully chosen because many of the offences involved two or more people but were not carried out by criminal gangs.

The more likely explanation is that “community activists” had said the phrase “gang rape” had “racist connotations.”

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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2009, 03:04:21 AM »
Are they sucking up U.S. taxpayers' money for unemployment?

If they go to prison, the blacks are even more expensive. As far as I know a person in prison "wastes" more money than someone getting unemployment insurance...

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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2009, 06:10:52 AM »
50% of African American men are employed by the drug industry, the illicit drug industry, that is..
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Re: 34.5 percent of young African American men are unemployed
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2009, 09:05:58 AM »
Are they sucking up U.S. taxpayers' money for unemployment?

If they go to prison, the blacks are even more expensive. As far as I know a person in prison "wastes" more money than someone getting unemployment insurance...

Its money well spent.... at least we dont have to see them... and its not like theyd be productive members of society.

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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2009, 09:07:14 AM »
Are they sucking up U.S. taxpayers' money for unemployment?

If they go to prison, the blacks are even more expensive. As far as I know a person in prison "wastes" more money than someone getting unemployment insurance...

Its money well spent.... at least we dont have to see them... and its not like theyd be productive members of society.

At least in prison they have to work!  :::D :::D :::D

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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2009, 09:08:35 AM »
They may be unemployed, but at least they can rely on 'hope and change'.

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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2009, 09:09:07 AM »
Are they sucking up U.S. taxpayers' money for unemployment?

If they go to prison, the blacks are even more expensive. As far as I know a person in prison "wastes" more money than someone getting unemployment insurance...

Its money well spent.... at least we dont have to see them... and its not like theyd be productive members of society.

At least in prison they have to work!  :::D :::D :::D
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They may be unemployed, but at least they can rely on 'hope and change'.

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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2009, 09:38:52 PM »
Interestingly,   yesterday while on a week long trip,     a black teen or young adult got my attention when I was walking with radio headphones on.     He said he had an emergency.     As soon as he said the word emergency,    the first thing that came to mind was he was going to attempt to con me to give him money.     I said I'm sorry and I walked away.          Being that it was a commercial area  (  north of Detroit in a mixed area,   including a sizeable Jewish population.  ),    he had the option of either going into a store or place of business if he truly had an emergency.     I'm confident someone would have let him call the police,   who would be well equipped to handle a real emergency.     If I truly believed that the individual was in an emergency situation  (  he certainly didn't look injured  ),     I would have gone into one of the nearby stores and called the police myself.             
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2009, 12:03:53 AM »
Interestingly,   yesterday while on a week long trip,     a black teen or young adult got my attention when I was walking with radio headphones on.     He said he had an emergency.     As soon as he said the word emergency,    the first thing that came to mind was he was going to attempt to con me to give him money.     I said I'm sorry and I walked away.          Being that it was a commercial area  (  north of Detroit in a mixed area,   including a sizeable Jewish population.  ),    he had the option of either going into a store or place of business if he truly had an emergency.     I'm confident someone would have let him call the police,   who would be well equipped to handle a real emergency.     If I truly believed that the individual was in an emergency situation  (  he certainly didn't look injured  ),     I would have gone into one of the nearby stores and called the police myself.             

The same thing happened to me a while back.  A black man that I ran into at work asked me if I knew the best way to treat a broken arm, and I asked him if he had broken his arm... and he said he wasnt sure... so I said I'd go get help... and he said no... and walked away... and he looked completely fine.  I'm not sure what he was trying to pull.

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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2009, 12:06:21 AM »
With all of their free time, you think they are procreating?

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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2009, 12:07:52 AM »
Last week on my way to school, this shvartze started screaming at the bus driver. I know you guys think it happens all the time, but not in Toronto. a) People don't scream that much here, especially at bus drivers, b) we don't have as many shvartzes.

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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2009, 12:34:29 AM »
Interestingly,   yesterday while on a week long trip,     a black teen or young adult got my attention when I was walking with radio headphones on.     He said he had an emergency.     As soon as he said the word emergency,    the first thing that came to mind was he was going to attempt to con me to give him money.     I said I'm sorry and I walked away.          Being that it was a commercial area  (  north of Detroit in a mixed area,   including a sizeable Jewish population.  ),    he had the option of either going into a store or place of business if he truly had an emergency.     I'm confident someone would have let him call the police,   who would be well equipped to handle a real emergency.     If I truly believed that the individual was in an emergency situation  (  he certainly didn't look injured  ),     I would have gone into one of the nearby stores and called the police myself.             

The same thing happened to me a while back.  A black man that I ran into at work asked me if I knew the best way to treat a broken arm, and I asked him if he had broken his arm... and he said he wasnt sure... so I said I'd go get help... and he said no... and walked away... and he looked completely fine.  I'm not sure what he was trying to pull.



The fact that he wasn't willing to receive medical help from someone equipped to treat him demonstrates to me that he didn't have good intentions when asking you the question.       If one has a potential broken arm,    it would seem like getting qualified medical help would be a high priority.   
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2009, 06:07:40 AM »
Strange, the blacks we have here in Germany, at least most of them, a quite nice people. The exception to this "rule" are the Nigerians and Sudanese who are often drug dealers and criminals. But the others are friendly and even very educated! What may be the difference between the Afro-American blacks and those living here?