Author Topic: Should Converts only date Converts? (Read 23659 times)

Yochanan Zev · « **on:** April 23, 2007, 02:16:37 PM »

There is no bigger oddball on the face of this planet than a black convert to the Jewish nation. Quite frankly, I'm starting to get up there in age and am becoming a bit weary of holding out for the Jewish woman of my dreams. What difference does it make if a black convert dates a gentile woman, or even marries one? I'll never be accepted completely as a Jew anyway, so what difference does it make who I choose to be with?

mord · « **Reply #1 on:** April 23, 2007, 03:48:18 PM »

That you feel like all Jewish men trying to find a Jewish woman

Fruit of thy loins · « **Reply #2 on:** April 23, 2007, 04:53:11 PM »

Quote from: Wrath of Ham on April 23, 2007, 02:16:37 PM

There is no bigger oddball on the face of this planet than a black convert to the Jewish nation. Quite frankly, I'm starting to get up there in age and am becoming a bit weary of holding out for the Jewish woman of my dreams. What difference does it make if a black convert dates a gentile woman, or even marries one? I'll never be accepted completely as a Jew anyway, so what difference does it make who I choose to be with?

I believe that I am a fleshly reincarnation of the prophet Balaam because I feel like telling you to go out and bang as many white girls as you can. But unlike Balaam I don't feel that I am trying to rob you of your destiny by counselling you to commit fornication before Moses' and Aaron's tabernacle. I just think that if white women love you, and you can make them happy, you by rights should go and do it. Bang them until they squeak. White women love it. G-d made them for the black man. Therefore take that which is yours. G-d gave me nothing and He despises me and has forsaken me except for this one thing: I know the Supreme Truth about white women. I thank G-d for my one and only gift on this Earth.

Lisa · « **Reply #3 on:** April 23, 2007, 05:01:17 PM »

Technically converts to Judaism are just as Jewish as people who were born as Jews.

I don't see the point of going through all the trouble of converting to Judaism only to marry a non-Jewish woman. So don't give up hope. If you look hard enough you will find a nice woman.

mord · « **Reply #4 on:** April 23, 2007, 07:34:43 PM »

He's Jewish already

jdl4ever · « **Reply #5 on:** April 24, 2007, 04:38:09 AM »

Converts should date converts since they are very similar to one another. I would not date a convert since I wouldn't get along with them since they had different experiences than I did. However, sometimes different people click. I know of a convert who married a non convert and they are still married happily. Anyways, I understand your problem since it is difficult for converts to get married since most religious people wouldn't date them, especially a black convert. You need to find a nice black convert girl to marry. I hear that in Israel there is the highest population of black Jews so if you can't find one here then try there. Why wouldn't you be accepted as a Jew?

Yochanan Zev · « **Reply #6 on:** April 24, 2007, 10:40:07 AM »

See, that's the thing. You can be so different in ways that sets you apart from everyone, irrespective of the most obvious differences. It's all of those differences combined and rolled up into one person.

Just because a woman may be a black convert, by no means does it account for compatibility. And yeah mord, I really see where you're coming from. I'm curious to know where people here view their commitment to a possiblity of having a jewish family in the future against their own need to be gratified in the present. Makes me wonder how much of my committment to attending shul on Shabbat is due more in part not wanting to spend the time alone. to How long are we supposed to wait? 35? 40? 45?

I'm not second guessing my decision at all. I made my bed, so I'll lie in it. Just makes you wonder.

mord · « **Reply #7 on:** April 24, 2007, 10:47:40 AM »

You really have to keep your horizions open, It can be a white Jew, Black Jew, Jew from yemen or Russia.What i find what all these Jewish girls have in common is that they all think they deserve billionaires

Yochanan Zev · « **Reply #8 on:** April 24, 2007, 11:31:20 AM »

That's the case with a lot of women though. Both Jews and non-Jews.

I make less than six figures, and also have had a very blue collar upbringing. I really don't get it either... I think it's the way many of their fathers spoil them. It's amazing that at this age, so many single women think you pull a bankroll out of your asse at the drop of a dime to address whatever emotion-driven circumstance that's ailing them at the moment. " C'mon.. why can't you go to India with me for a month? Just quit your job and get another one when you come back". " I promised 'so-and-so' we would attend their fundraiser.. it's only $300 per couple. I'll feel so embarrased if we don't go. 'So-and-so' is going to be there with fiance.'

And don't forget big daddy. Daddy always comes through with the $$$.

mord · « **Reply #9 on:** April 24, 2007, 12:38:21 PM »

LOL it that true i don'nt know if anyone on this forum makes a six figure salary.They [THE FEMALES] WANT ONLY THE BEST

ftf · « **Reply #10 on:** April 24, 2007, 04:56:15 PM »

Anything less than the best is unacceptable.

Fruit of thy loins · « **Reply #11 on:** April 25, 2007, 04:33:11 PM »

Quote from: ftf on April 24, 2007, 04:56:15 PM

Anything less than the best is unacceptable.

What is the meaning of this curious statement?

ftf · « **Reply #12 on:** April 26, 2007, 01:48:35 PM »

"Anything less than the best is unacceptable." is my motto, if I do not achieve the best possible in any given event I am disappointed with myself.

Quote from: mord on April 24, 2007, 12:38:21 PM

They [THE FEMALES] WANT ONLY THE BEST

Made me think of it.

Fruit of thy loins · « **Reply #13 on:** April 26, 2007, 02:01:14 PM »

Quote from: ftf on April 26, 2007, 01:48:35 PM

"Anything less than the best is unacceptable." is my motto, if I do not achieve the best possible in any given event I am disappointed with myself.

What's this got to do with dating? Are you suggesting for example that superior women shouldn't date inferior men? I've noticed that well-to-do English/Anglo females won't date Scotsmen. Maybe they consider the dark-haired races to be beneath them.

mord · « **Reply #14 on:** April 26, 2007, 02:04:59 PM »

I KNOW PEOPLE IN THE U.S. THAT HAVE GRAND PARENTS FROM SCOTLAND WHO HAVE LIGHT HAIR AND SKIN

ftf · « **Reply #15 on:** April 26, 2007, 02:43:33 PM »

Quote from: Fruit of thy loins on April 26, 2007, 02:01:14 PM

Quote from: ftf on April 26, 2007, 01:48:35 PM
"Anything less than the best is unacceptable." is my motto, if I do not achieve the best possible in any given event I am disappointed with myself.

What's this got to do with dating? Are you suggesting for example that superior women shouldn't date inferior men? I've noticed that well-to-do English/Anglo females won't date Scotsmen. Maybe they consider the dark-haired races to be beneath them.

I was trying to make a joke, the attempt has obviously completely failed...

kahaneloyalist · « **Reply #16 on:** April 26, 2007, 05:06:19 PM »

Wrath, I am sorry you have had such trouble finding a wife, I dont think converts should only date converts. Have you considered coming to Israel there are far more converts here who and Jews in Israel dont care if you are a convert, most of them anyway.

Shlomo · « **Reply #17 on:** April 26, 2007, 07:32:43 PM »

Converts should not be treated any different in any way than other Jews. This is in Torah.

mord · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2007, 11:47:16 AM »

True they should'nt even be reminded of it.

RationalThought110 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 06, 2007, 08:02:11 AM »

Quote from: mord on April 27, 2007, 11:47:16 AM

True they should'nt even be reminded of it.

Shouldn't there be an exception if the person refuses to give up celebrating Christmas, for example? When that happens, why shouldn't we remind the person about it?

mord · « **Reply #20 on:** May 06, 2007, 10:39:32 AM »

Well i know a few converts and they don'nt celebrate Christmas,theconverts i know are orthodox.One girl i know goes to her father on Christmas he's rich she does'nt sleep or eat by his house she only gos to get a big present a few thousand dollars

Shlomo · « **Reply #21 on:** May 06, 2007, 12:12:43 PM »

Quote from: RationalThought110 on May 06, 2007, 08:02:11 AM

Shouldn't there be an exception if the person refuses to give up celebrating Christmas, for example? When that happens, why shouldn't we remind the person about it?[/quote]

Stuff like this would apply to any Jew... not just converts.

ftf · « **Reply #22 on:** May 06, 2007, 02:57:32 PM »

What happened to Yochanan Zev?

mord · « **Reply #23 on:** May 06, 2007, 02:58:56 PM »

He left because he felt the site was too racist

Fruit of thy loins · « **Reply #24 on:** May 06, 2007, 04:23:37 PM »

Quote from: mord on May 06, 2007, 10:39:32 AM

Well i know a few converts and they don'nt celebrate Christmas,theconverts i know are orthodox.One girl i know goes to her father on Christmas he's rich she does'nt sleep or eat by his house she only gos to get a big present a few thousand dollars

What a proud father he must be.