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enemyofthestate

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MUSLIMS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
« on: September 17, 2006, 08:02:05 PM »
Don't hate all Muslims they are not all bad. How do I know this I am Muslim and I have never been schooled in hating anyone or trained to kill. I also do not have any ill will towards Jews and have many Jewish friends. Although you would probably say those Jews are self hating because they befriended me... But make no mistake about it not all muslims want you dead. I am living proof. It sadens me a great deal to hear all the venomous hate towards "All" muslims on this forum. there is no distinction for you it seems between rightous people like myself and those who are terrorists. that is your shortcoming

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Re: MUSLIMS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2006, 08:07:47 PM »
What is your opinion on Muhammad's hateful comments about non-Muslims in the Koran and in the Hadith?

What is your opinion on the idolatrous practice of Hajj?

What is your opinion on Israel?

enemyofthestate

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Re: MUSLIMS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2006, 08:10:39 PM »
Israel has a right to exist. extreme fundamentalist islam is creating a very hostile enviroment for peace loveing muslims like myself

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Re: MUSLIMS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2006, 08:17:34 PM »
Israel has a right to exist.



Of course it does. 

If you want peace, stop killing 'infidels' and stop massacring innocent Jewish people in the Holy Land.  You have billions of acres of Muslim land in other nations so why must you continue to have a presence in Israel?


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Re: MUSLIMS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2006, 09:17:32 PM »
Sorry Enemy of the state, but you are going to have a tough sale here!!  I do truly hope you are a good person, but many of us are VERY sceptical, and rightly so.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2006, 10:39:43 PM »
Sorry Enemy of the state, but you are going to have a tough sale here!!  I do truly hope you are a good person, but many of us are VERY sceptical, and rightly so.

Did someone say sale? There is a 2 for 1 special on all good muslims to be exonerated of all wrong doing and unfair bias based solely on their religion.

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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2006, 11:57:21 PM »
Everyone be very careful, always remember that Muslims practice Taqiya, to lie to the infidel to make Muslim world conquest easier. That is most likely all, enemy of the state, is doing.

You see enemy of the state is not a Osama Bin Laden style Muslim, he is a CAIR muslim, a far more dangerous breed. Because the OBL's of the world are very honest kill all the infidels, etc. etc. The CAIR muslims say we want brotherhood and peace and we love all people but the results are always the same. For decades the Lebanese Christians were the loyal vassals of the Muslims, and yet when the Muslims had the chance they launched a genocide against the Lebanese Christians, because that is what they do. They will tell you sweet words until the moment your back is turned that is when they put the knife in you.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2006, 02:59:27 AM »
Everyone be very careful, always remember that Muslims practice Taqiya, to lie to the infidel to make Muslim world conquest easier.



Absolutely true.  Just look at this excerpt from the 'Holy Koran':

'And give thou good tidings to the unbelievers of
a painful chastisement;
excepting those of the idolaters with whom
you made covenant, then they failed you naught
neither lent support to any man against you.
With them fulfil your covenant till their term; surely
Allah loves the godfearing.
Then, when the sacred months are drawn away,
slay the idolaters wherever you find them
.... '

(Repentance, verses 1 - 6)


Isn't that great?  Fulfil your contractual obligation with the 'idolaters' (i.e. all non-Muslims) and then when you have the upper hand, KILL THEM ALL.

This is why ALL countries must actively work against having sizeable Muslim populations!  People's lives are at risk because of this intolerant religion!

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2006, 03:11:26 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2006, 04:26:54 AM »
Yes, Muslims are good people.  They're good people until they decide to practice what their religion really teaches.


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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2006, 08:54:34 AM »
enemy has proven that he is a real muslim by his responses to posts on this board standing up for Ron Kuby and his fellow muslims.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2006, 10:39:22 AM »
Israel has a right to exist. extreme fundamentalist islam is creating a very hostile enviroment for peace loveing muslims like myself


If you sincerely believe in what you're saying, you are not a Muslim. If a Muslim rejects real Islam, they stop being a Muslim.


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Re: MUSLIMS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2006, 04:16:37 AM »
Everyone be very careful, always remember that Muslims practice Taqiya, to lie to the infidel to make Muslim world conquest easier. That is most likely all, enemy of the state, is doing.

You see enemy of the state is not a Osama Bin Laden style Muslim, he is a CAIR muslim, a far more dangerous breed. Because the OBL's of the world are very honest kill all the infidels, etc. etc. The CAIR muslims say we want brotherhood and peace and we love all people but the results are always the same. For decades the Lebanese Christians were the loyal vassals of the Muslims, and yet when the Muslims had the chance they launched a genocide against the Lebanese Christians, because that is what they do. They will tell you sweet words until the moment your back is turned that is when they put the knife in you.

A little Paranoid are we kahaneloyalist? Keep selling that paranoia to those that follow you and the world will never be better off. Shame on you! 

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Re: MUSLIMS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2006, 04:21:01 AM »
Everyone be very careful, always remember that Muslims practice Taqiya, to lie to the infidel to make Muslim world conquest easier.



Absolutely true.  Just look at this excerpt from the 'Holy Koran':

'And give thou good tidings to the unbelievers of
a painful chastisement;
excepting those of the idolaters with whom
you made covenant, then they failed you naught
neither lent support to any man against you.
With them fulfil your covenant till their term; surely
Allah loves the godfearing.
Then, when the sacred months are drawn away,
slay the idolaters wherever you find them
.... '

(Repentance, verses 1 - 6)


Isn't that great?  Fulfil your contractual obligation with the 'idolaters' (i.e. all non-Muslims) and then when you have the upper hand, KILL THEM ALL.

This is why ALL countries must actively work against having sizeable Muslim populations!  People's lives are at risk because of this intolerant religion!

What happened to the JTF postion that they accept "ALL" righteous Jews and Gentiles? I assume unless an administrator steps in here that Rightous Gentiles does not apply to Muslims, Is that correct? If so I will cease to post in this forum as your position on these issues is flawed and hypocritical when it comes to Rightous Gentiles. 

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Re: MUSLIMS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2006, 09:37:13 AM »
i really dont find any reason for you to keep saying you are a muslim if you sincerely dont believe in the vicious quran, just like Yacov said. if you keep on calling yourself a muslim, despite saying you are righteous, then you ARE doing the Taqiya, simply no other explanation exists. you just cant be in the middle- either you are a muslim, with all the qurans obligations to do kill infidels, or not. unlike Judaism, islam isnt a people, but only a religion. why would someone who doesnt believe in this religion would still call himself a muslim?? you can drop islam, if you didnt lie about your beliefs, and become a "Noahite", thus being a righteous gentile.

but after all we had from muslims, dont expect us not to be suspicious of you. clear your position and decide what are you- muslim or noahite.


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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2006, 10:55:55 AM »
i really dont find any reason for you to keep saying you are a muslim if you sincerely dont believe in the vicious quran, just like Yacov said. if you keep on calling yourself a muslim, despite saying you are righteous, then you ARE doing the Taqiya, simply no other explanation exists. you just cant be in the middle- either you are a muslim, with all the qurans obligations to do kill infidels, or not. unlike Judaism, islam isnt a people, but only a religion. why would someone who doesnt believe in this religion would still call himself a muslim?? you can drop islam, if you didnt lie about your beliefs, and become a "Noahite", thus being a righteous gentile.

but after all we had from muslims, dont expect us not to be suspicious of you. clear your position and decide what are you- muslim or noahite.

I think what is being missed here is interpretation. And how, in this case, the Quran is interpreted. You can take a Christian fundamentalist and a left wing Catholic and they will both have different interpretation of the same Bible. The same is true for Muslims and for Jews for that matter. This is no absolution when it comes to interpretation especially in regards to text that is thousands of years old like the Torah, The bible or the Quran. Religious fundamentalists will see their holy book as absolution; what is wirtten is what is meant and other more moderate or liberal people will read the same book as see the passages as metaphors if you will.

Based on what has been written about me here it seems clear that there is no such thing as a rightous Muslim and if they are so then they cant be a true Muslim because a true Muslim wants to kill all infidels. Simply put that is not fair and my understanding and teaching of the Quran never lent itself to inspiring me or anyone I know to kill anyone. EVER! 

As far as trying to convince anyone I am a good person only to stab them in the back when they are not looking is absolutely ridiculous and nothing more than paranoia on your part.   

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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2006, 11:19:57 AM »
you should check our correspondence with the nazi "khaan" here in the forums. there, i said that you can interpret even "my kampf" as a peacefull book. when it is written to kill all infidels, and you interpret it as "love for all", thats your problem, go find a book that you truly simpathyze with it AS IT IS without any need to bend what is written.


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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2006, 11:43:59 AM »
i really dont find any reason for you to keep saying you are a muslim if you sincerely dont believe in the vicious quran, just like Yacov said. if you keep on calling yourself a muslim, despite saying you are righteous, then you ARE doing the Taqiya, simply no other explanation exists. you just cant be in the middle- either you are a muslim, with all the qurans obligations to do kill infidels, or not. unlike Judaism, islam isnt a people, but only a religion. why would someone who doesnt believe in this religion would still call himself a muslim?? you can drop islam, if you didnt lie about your beliefs, and become a "Noahite", thus being a righteous gentile.

but after all we had from muslims, dont expect us not to be suspicious of you. clear your position and decide what are you- muslim or noahite.

I think what is being missed here is interpretation. And how, in this case, the Quran is interpreted. You can take a Christian fundamentalist and a left wing Catholic and they will both have different interpretation of the same Bible. The same is true for Muslims and for Jews for that matter. This is no absolution when it comes to interpretation especially in regards to text that is thousands of years old like the Torah, The bible or the Quran. Religious fundamentalists will see their holy book as absolution; what is wirtten is what is meant and other more moderate or liberal people will read the same book as see the passages as metaphors if you will.

Based on what has been written about me here it seems clear that there is no such thing as a rightous Muslim and if they are so then they cant be a true Muslim because a true Muslim wants to kill all infidels. Simply put that is not fair and my understanding and teaching of the Quran never lent itself to inspiring me or anyone I know to kill anyone. EVER! 

As far as trying to convince anyone I am a good person only to stab them in the back when they are not looking is absolutely ridiculous and nothing more than paranoia on your part.   
1) If someone defames mohammed, the entire muslim world goes INSANE.  If someone defames Moses or Jesus, all you will hear is the chirping of crickets. 
             
    Therefore, which of these religions eluded to is NOT peaceful?

2) If a non-muslim touches a koran, the entire muslim world becomes outraged.  If a Nick Berg gets his head sawed off for loving and helping muslims, the muslim world is silent.

    Why is this?

3) A religion of peace will NEVER produce suicide bombers, no matter HOW one interprets the book. ;)

Good luck trying to convince us otherwise. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2006, 11:57:07 AM »
mr. enemy, are you also an "ahmedi" muslim?


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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2006, 12:12:06 PM »
mr. enemy, are you also an "ahmedi" muslim?

Honestly, do you really care what I am? I have already been written off by the paranoid posters in this forum, So what difference would it make? 

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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2006, 12:15:37 PM »
mr. enemy, are you also an "ahmedi" muslim?

Honestly, do you really care what I am? I have already been written off by the paranoid posters in this forum, So what difference would it make? 

listen, i only asked what you are, because the ahmedis say the same about interprating the kuran instead of realizing what it is really about.
you wont answer me?

btw, the posters here (including me) are not paranoid, its just that they've learnt from what history has to tell about the islam.


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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2006, 12:21:42 PM »
mr. enemy, are you also an "ahmedi" muslim?

Honestly, do you really care what I am? I have already been written off by the paranoid posters in this forum, So what difference would it make? 
Try answering some of the 'paranoid' questions.

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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2006, 04:11:23 PM »
Also, why don't the majority of 'good' muslims take the initiative and kill the 'extremists'?  (After all, they're "hijacking a peaceful religion," right?)  ;)

The fact of the matter is that the 'extremists' are heroes throughout the muslim world.  There is not a muslim on Earth that would harm a hair on an 'extremist' muslim's head, under ANY circumstances (and its not because of fear).

When muslims 'claim' to condemn the activities of, "a few extremists" they are LYING.

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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2006, 04:12:50 PM »
I would say the ahmadis are an exception to that, however, their ideas are so messed up...

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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2006, 04:16:31 PM »
What happened to enemyofthestate? 

I ask a few excellent questions and he runs away calling me 'paranoid'! :D

Hey enemyofthestate, read the quotation below and ponder it for a while.