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A worried Jerusalem watches the rise of Nick Clegg

Candidate last year: “We must stop arming Israel.”

By DAVID HOROVITZ
05/05/2010 05:00

From the Jerusalem Post:  http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=174707

Israel was maintaining a diplomatic silence Tuesday amid reports from the UK that the Liberal-Democrats, a rising force in British politics whose leader has taken highly critical positions on Israel, would seek control of the Foreign Office and several other senior positions if Thursday’s general elections give the party the balance of power in a hung parliament.

Government officials said it would be inappropriate for Israel to make any comment at all on the British elections, in which Labor Prime Minister Gordon Brown is battling both the traditional rival Conservative Party, led by David Cameron, and an unexpected third-party challenge from the Lib-Dems under Nick Clegg.

Privately, however, the view in Jerusalem is that it would be deeply problematic for Israel were Clegg’s party to unexpectedly prevail in the elections or, more realistically, fare well enough to deny Labor or the Conservatives an outright majority in the House of Commons. Clegg has repeatedly lambasted Israel for using “disproportionate” force in Operation Cast Lead, slammed the blockade of Gaza and, in an op-ed article last year, demanded that Britain and the EU halt arms sales to Israel.

According to reports in the British press on Tuesday, the Lib-Dems would demand at least six senior ministerial positions as its price for joining a coalition, including the post of foreign secretary, as well as the title of deputy prime minister for Clegg.

Clegg’s well-regarded performance over a series of three live TV debates in the run-up to polling day has been the surprise of the election campaign. It has helped lift the Lib-Dems above Brown’s troubled Labor in several opinion polls, to just a few percentage points behind Cameron’s leading Conservatives, prompting Clegg to assert that he is a genuine contender for the prime ministership. The nature of the British constituency system makes it extremely unlikely that the Lib-Dems could take power, but many polls in recent days have indicated that a hung parliament is likely, which would leave Clegg as the kingmaker, well-placed to demand a high price in return for joining a Conservative- or Labor-led coalition as junior partner.

Clegg’s criticisms of Israel, notably since Cast Lead, have been noted with dismay in Jerusalem, where eyebrows are also raised over his reported connections with certain Arab figures who hold to problematic ideologies. His stance on Iran in the TV debates has also prompted concern, since he was seen to underestimate the dangers posed by Teheran’s nuclear program – in contrast to both Brown and Cameron.

The current British foreign secretary, David Miliband, is not regarded by Jerusalem as the most supportive such figure in recent memory, but Israel, runs the view here, would be looking back fondly at Miliband as a font of pro-Israel empathy were Clegg to succeed him.

Clegg’s most trenchant public criticism of Israel came in an opinion piece he wrote for The Guardian in January 2009, at the height of Operation Cast Lead, headlined “We must stop arming Israel.”

“Israel’s approach is self-defeating,” he argued. “The overwhelming use of force, the unacceptable loss of civilian lives, is radicalizing moderate opinion among Palestinians and throughout the Arab world.”

Consequently, he urged Brown to “condemn unambiguously Israel’s tactics, just as he has rightly condemned Hamas’s rocket attacks.” And he called both to “immediately suspend the proposed new [EU] cooperation agreement with Israel until things change in Gaza,” and “halt Britain’s arms exports to Israel, and persuade our EU counterparts to do the same.”

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It goes both ways, let England worry about an ANGRY Israel.  A bunch of pasty faced a-holes. 

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Nick Clegg would be well served to keep out of Israel's business, and deal with the Muslim crisis in his own country, he should be protecting the British people.  Israel is so far away from the UK, how inappropriate to stick his nose where it does not belong.
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the Lib Dems are evil.  Through and through.  Any party that condones suicide bombing will never get my vote.

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Britain hardly does any military business with Israel.He's just grandstanding for all the muzzie vote
Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
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Britain hardly does any military business with Israel.He's just grandstanding for all the muzzie vote

it is mostly a sop to his right-on, anti-Semitic, Guardianista liberal followers.
not sure how many seats with a large Muslim population that they are competitive in, it won't be many.

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I'd vote BNP  before LibDems
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Nick Clegg would be well served to keep out of Israel's business, and deal with the Muslim crisis in his own country, he should be protecting the British people.  Israel is so far away from the UK, how inappropriate to stick his nose where it does not belong.

He should stick his nose up mahmoud abbas's ass.

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That [censored]-faced homo needs to keep his [censored] mouth shut.
If that homo doesn't talk about Sudan... He should be raped by a herd of gorilla's.

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"“Israel’s approach is self-defeating,” he argued. “The overwhelming use of force, the unacceptable loss of civilian lives, is radicalizing moderate opinion among Palestinians and throughout the Arab world.”

Anyone thinking there is moderate opinion in the Arab World is an idiot.

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i voted ukip guys, hope you aproved, they are rightwing and they said this about israel.

"UKIP supports the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state. UKIP rejects calls for Israel to be punished for defending itself from attack. Yet UKIP calls on Israel to continue to ensure its military actions remain proportionate and to pursue a political solution to a political problem. "

http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies/1536-foreign-affairs-and-international-trade

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Everyone needs to know that these Liberals are deceived.  They are on a destructive course and are dragging the rest of us with them!