All the research disproves the antisemitic "Khazar Theory"

[briann]

While there is no question the Muslims love to propagate this evil nonsense, Nazi's have an even more idiotic view.

According to Hitlerian stupidity, Ashkenazis are a mongrel mix of all sorts of races, including negroes, Arabs, etc etc.

I'm not saying its bad to be a racial mix, but Nazi attitudes were that Jews were some sort of genetic mistake and had no special lineage, other than just to be a waste product of all the races that Europeans hated at the time.

What is the moral to the story?? JEW HATERS MAKE UP WHATEVER THEY WANT TO BELIEVE.  Who care about facts?  Everything they believe is made up of nonsense conspiracies, WHY DO YOU THINK THAT SUDDENLY LOGIC IS GOING TO PREVAIL WITH THESE BEASTS???  The same goes for Muslims.

It reminds me of the blacks making up nonsense history about Egypt being a 'black' society, and Whites and Jews being created by an evil scientist.  There is no factual bases to their claims.   They are idiots who like to make stories, and we shouldn't even dignify their nonsense. 

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Re:  "it is believed that Moses spent some years as the King of Ethiopia"

"Believed" by whom?


What "evidence" is given as being reason for anyone "believing" that Moses was King of Ethiopia?

Obviously during the period he was in hiding from Egypt... It was many years from when he fled Egypt because he killed the Egyptian task master and the time he took the Jewish people out of Egypt.

The source of this comes from the Talmud. 

What?  This is rather interesting...
Where in the Talmud does it say he was king of Ethiopia?

I will bring to you some sources which support what I am telling you...

http://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/811478/jewish/Interpolated-Translation.htm

15 Pharaoh heard about the incident, for Dathan and Aviram informed on Moses.54 Pharaoh therefore sought to kill Moses. He had him tried, but although Moses had a speech impediment, he miraculously defended himself eloquently. Still, Pharaoh wanted to pronounce him guilty, but G-d struck him dumb. Pharaoh then tried to mumble his intentions to his ministers, but G-d made the ministers deaf. Pharaoh motioned to the executioners to kill Moses, but miraculously, the executioner's sword was unable to harm him.55 G-d made the executioners blind, and thus Moses fled from Pharaoh's presence.56 He fled to Ethiopia, where he joined the army and 9 years later was crowned king. He remained king of Ethiopia for 40 years.

In the year 2418 (while Moses was king of Ethiopia) ...

Let's just stop right here because we have a problem.  He does not cite his assertion that Moshe was king of Ethiopia.  Citation 56 is simply a Rashi on the verse 4:11 in Shemoth but it says nothing about Ethiopia.    I must say, I am very surprised to hear these statements about Ethiopia.   I see that he is citing another work later, so we'll get to that...

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Regarding Moses: he went to the Land of Cush and lived there for forty years, and actually married the wife of the [slain] Ethiopian king, and lived with her [outwardly] as man and wife, as is recounted in the accounts of Moses' life. Even though he did not approach her physically, he was still not buried in the Land of Israel at all, neither his body nor his bones.

The Written Torah does not tell us what happened to Moses between the time when he fled Pharaoh's henchmen, at about the age of 18, and when he became Jethro's shepherd and son-in-law, at about the age of 77. There are a few versions in the Midrashim of what happened, but according to the most detailed one, Moses slew the Egyptian in the year 2386, when he was 18 years old. He fled to Ethiopia, where he joined the army and 9 years later was coronated king. This is when he "married" the widow of the previous king of Ethiopia, or "Cush". He remained king of Ethiopia for 40 years, from 2395 to 2435. In that year, at the age of 67, he left Ethiopia and went to Midian. After the incident with the shepherds at the well, Jethro imprisoned Moses for ten years. Zipporah fed Moses secretly during these ten years, and finally convinced her father to release him. In 2445, at the age of 77, Moses and Zipporah were married, and shortly after had their first son, Gershon. The incident of the burning bush occurred in the year 2447, when Moses was 79 years old. (See Seder HaDorot, s.v. 2386, 2387, 2392, 2435, 2444)

I see he is quoting Seder HaDorot by Rabbi Jehiel ben Solomon Heilprin of Lithuania (late 1600's), and perhaps in his work Rabbi Heilprin is quoting a midrash of some kind.   Do you know any more about the source of this idea?

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Also since when was Avraham's prohibition against "Hamitic" women?   Avraham says in his own words in the Torah many times specifically Canaanite women.

[muman613]

Also since when was Avraham's prohibition against "Hamitic" women?   Avraham says in his own words in the Torah many times specifically Canaanite women.

I believe that was a reference to the curse which was placed on Canaan due to the misdeed of his father Ham.

[muman613]

Here are some more links to this midrash I have found on the web with the Kosher search engine 4torah.com .


http://www.torahtots.com/jewishpress/20060803midrash.htm
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1017949/jewish/Where-Was-Moses.htm
http://www.aish.com/tp/b/lp/48939252.html
http://jewishanswers.org/index.php?p=2416
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1646/jewish/Moses-Early-Adventures.htm


Although all these links I still cannot find the original reference to the original midrash..

Actually it seems this may be the original source:

Yalkut Me'am Loez on Shemot 2:15; With more details: Yalkut Shimoni on Shemot, Remez 168

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Here are some more links to this midrash I have found on the web with the Kosher search engine 4torah.com .


http://www.torahtots.com/jewishpress/20060803midrash.htm 

The torahtots thing is for children, but anyway it is unsourced... actually it was the first result when I google searched after I first read the claim of ethiopian kingship in your post!

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1017949/jewish/Where-Was-Moses.htm
http://www.aish.com/tp/b/lp/48939252.html
http://jewishanswers.org/index.php?p=2416
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1646/jewish/Moses-Early-Adventures.htm


Although all these links I still cannot find the original reference to the original midrash..

Actually it seems this may be the original source:

Yalkut Me'am Loez on Shemot 2:15; With more details: Yalkut Shimoni on Shemot, Remez 168

Interesting, I'll look in Meam loez and ask around about it too.

[Dr. Dan]

We should embrace our Khazar heritage!!! 

Let's sing our Khazari national athem:

Khazaristan is the greatest country in the world
All other countries are run by little girls
Khazaristan number one exporter of potassium.
Other countries have inferior potassium.

Khazaristan home of Tishman swimming pool.
Its length thirty meter and width six meter.
Filtration system a marvel to behold.
It remove 80 percent of human solid waste.

Khazaristan, Khazaristan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Norther fence of Jewtown.
Khazaristan friend of all except Uzbekistan.
They very nosey people with bone in their brain.

Khazaristan industry best in the world.
We incented toffee and trouser belt.
Khazaristan prostitutes cleanest in the region.
Except of course Turkmenistans

  !

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

THE KHAZARS WILL RISE AGAIN!!!

[Aces High]

They estimated the admixture rate of Ashkenazim (for all haplotypes) to be 22.7% ... It is important to note that these relative average genetic distances will ... The other side of the coin, the extent to which Jewish genetic patterns have ... Variation in Ashkenazi Jewish and Host Non-Jewish European Populations. ...

www.cryptojews.com/Comparing_DNA.htm

[MassuhDGoodName]

This Professor Lavender sure uses some very strange grammatical constructs, such as series of double adverbs.

Most of his research's "conclusions" are expressed as "it is likely" / "it's therefore probable that / etc.......

This guy gives himself more "wiggle room" than Ron Paul!   

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "THE KHAZARS WILL RISE AGAIN!!! "

From now on, every time I encounter someone like Ben m or pupik von schmendrik, I'm going to claim that they are Khazars! -- and that's the reason they don't fit as Jews.   

Same goes for Neturei Karta, J Street, ....

Kind of like a Mongolian interloper posing as erev rav !

Even if you can't see them, you can recognize them in a crowded schul because they all use Tuvan throat singing to chant Shema.

But it just gets better!

Now we can demand "special Federal Protected status" as a "newly revealed oppressed Asian minority group"!

KHAZARS! -- UNITE!

DEMAND YOUR KHAZARI RIGHTS! --- (such as the right to sue everybody for any reason whatsoever and win!)  --

We also demand a separate KHAZAR Homeland in the Southeast (preferably NE Tennesee, KY, AND Virginia, AND.......

WE DEMAND EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO OWN AND MANAGE KHAZAR CASINOS!  TAX FREE!  (to help ease the pain of years of hate and discrimination which we underwent because we were led to believe that we were Jews)!

AND WE DEMAND IT BE A FEDERAL "HATE CRIME" FOR ANYONE TO CALL US "KHAZARS"!!!!

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Tuvan throat singing

What is that?