John Hagee

[RationalThought110]

JTF shouldn't have a formal relationship with the "Christians United for Israel".  The people who say negative things of JTF will then associate the two groups. 

To reciprocate, we need to increase  support of conservative Christians among other Jews.   

Chabad is good at reaching out to Jews.  Maybe they would support this cause. 

Liberals who've been smearing Jerry Falwell also accuse him of hating Jews.  They criticize any Jew who embraces conservative Christians.  They're also smearing Hagee. 


http://web.israelinsider.com/views/11379.htm

[ftf]

shouldn't? I think it would be great if JTF could have a connection with him.

The objections about him in that article were as follows: "John Hagee, who is contemptuous of Muslims, dismissive of gays, possesses a triumphalist theology and opposes a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict."

So for opposing islam, opposing homosexuals, and opposing a Palestinian state John Hagee should not be supported? I say think again.

[mord]

I think Pastor John Hagee would'nt want relations with JTF because JTF is a bit contraversial

[ftf]

He's also a bit controversial, for a start he supports Israel, and opposes the idea of a PLO state.

[mord]

Yes thats true but here in the U.S. he does have a big following

[dawntreader]

I don't know how John Hagee himself would see it, but I think it might do JTF some good to at least reach out. You never know what kind of ally JTF might be able to make.

[MarZutra]

I disagree with Hagee's theology but from a Christian perspective he is the most prolific leader.  I think it would be fabulous.  He's the only Christian leader, including the Pope, that has the stones to come out against Islam and stand up for America.

Good idea.  Perhaps someone could send them an introductory email or perhaps Chaim could have Hagee on the show?

[RationalThought110]

I think Pastor John Hagee would'nt want relations with JTF because JTF is a bit contraversial

Exactly.  That's why I meant that JTF needs to support Hagee, but not publicly. 


FTF, I see you thought the same as me.  I see your question in the "Ask JTF" thread.  What was Chaim's response?

[ftf]

Chaim bassically said it would be great if we could work with him, but at the moment he (John Hagee) is working with leftist organisations, so it would probably take a lot of convincing to sway him round to work with us, and he (Chaim) doesn't have the time to do it.

I'm sorry, but I don't have the time either.

[mord]

Which leftists organazations

[ftf]

Aipac for one.

[mord]

Oh your right then,but those are big groups

[ftf]

Oh your right then,but those are big groups

We're trying to become a big group.

[mord]

Yes i agree but they have U.S. Generals and millionaires on their board if JTF could get one millionaire or thousandaire

[ftf]

I think I'm right in saying that John Hagee's organisation has millions, so if we could form an aliance with him....

[mord]

I think I'm right in saying that John Hagee's organisation has millions, so if we could form an aliance with him....

Yes  it does