Why haven't the pharmaceutical companies found a cure for homosexuality?

[JTFenthusiast2]

Zelhar,

If we are speaking of violent behavior, then no I do not find it offensive.  I am running late to work.  I will have to think about your question.  I dont think the 'homophobia' of this forum is in anyway comparable to anti-semitism. 

[HiWarp]

Re:  "a class of people "

This is a Marxist "catch phrase" used to create artificial divisions within a society.

People who have sex are not by definition a "class".

Any more than tenor saxophonists comprise a distinct "class" among the saxophonist "masses".

This way of thinking derives from the theories of Karl Marx which stated that the only thing necessary to create a revolution was to redefine the meaning of commonly used words so that their "new understanding" creates artificial divisions within society, which then can be propagandized by a small, elite, communist "Vanguard of the Proletariat" which can then champion the various causes and demands of each "class" to create an ongoing "civil war" at all levels of society.

The stated goal of Communist Revolution is "equality " (a goal which never can be achieved), in what Marx termed "The struggle for a classless society".

The purpose of Communist propaganda is to create in people the mindset that unless society meets every (illegitimate) demand of each and every "class" (none of which even exist), then we shall all perish due to our failure to achieve victory in "The Class Struggle" (All of history prior to a Global Communist Victory has now been redefined as 'The Class Struggle'!).

Marx knew quite correcty that within the short time span of about two generations, any society will inevitably succumb to the unbearable stresses and strains caused by the "class divisions" created Communist propaganda.

The result?

One after another, each nation soon collapses from within like a series of dominoes, without a single shot ever having to be fired - the well disciplined Communist Party Vanguard left strong, in place, and ready to govern and rule.

The goal of a classless society (redefined as a concept called 'democracy') is deemed complete when all of society but a large population of uneducated "workers" has been physically liquidated, leaving those remaining to be ruled over by a Communist Dictatorship representing the interests of the Working Class.

Taken a good look at the front page of any newspaper today?

Whether or not you understand what is written here will determine whether you will live in freedom or as a slave.

America at this point in its history is right on the verge of total defeat, and will soon cease to exist altogether.

Think about it:  How many times a day do the American media, educational system, and government use the word "class",  and discuss the goal of all Americans as being "equality" of all classes and races?

Yet, how many times each year are we Americans asked to fill out official government forms and documents [with a legal warning stating that to lie or put false statements on these forms risks our being prosecuted by the government for perjury!] asking us to declare to which race we belong:

 - White (not a race but a color),
 - Black (another color and no race),
 - Asian (not a race but a continental place of residence),
 - Hispanic (an ethnic sub-group of a race which apparently can't be defined or mentioned
   in some way connected to the territorial concept of Hispanola ), or
 - Other (other what ?).

JTF forum members pray for the election victories of Marxists, Socialists, Fascists, and Globalist Elitists. who long ago abandoned the American Constitution and Bill of Rights, but were smart enough to don executive attire, sport American flag lapel pins, and most importantly:  "redefine the meaning of commonly used words in the English language".

The new idols at whose feet you worship now refer to themselves as "Conservative Republicans".

Now - Before any of you "great patriots" succumb to a high blood pressure attack, first stop and ask yourself these two simple questions:

1.  Whose idea was George W. Bush's proposed plan for Senior Citizens being provided cheap
     pharmaceutical drugs by the Federal Government?
     
     George Washington ? - or Karl Marx ?

2.  Which Constitution was George W. Bush vowing fealty to, when in debating his opponent
     Al Gore he so boldly declared, "I AM AN INTERNATIONALIST!"

     The Constitution of the U.S.A. ? - or The Constitution of the U.S.S.R ?
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I have full faith and confidence that none here but one or two of you are even capable of reading this post all the way to the end, let alone comprehending it, and therefore your arguments with Daniel and your insulting him will continue as before. Furthermore, you are all unknowingly accepting as your own starting position the truth inherent in Communist propaganda!  Then you run to quote Torah, which almost no one here has actually ever read, to make your case against Daniel''s views armed only with "G-d says so right here in a book which I've never read, and that proves you're a sinner and an abomination!"  Such a childish level of political naivete!  I'm no longer certain if it is symptomatic of societal illness, or the end stages of the disease itself.

I love you, man.   

...and not in that way, so get your minds out of the gutter. Or am I being homophobic by comparing any thoughts of homosexuality with a gutter?

[MassuhDGoodName]

"Cain't we awll jes' git a'long ?"

Can't we all just wrap a nigra in chains and drag it behind a pick up truck way out deep in the woods like they do out in Texas?

[Dr. Dan]

Because they are still looking for a cure for hiv futilely

[HiWarp]

Re:  "In my opinion you are correct in this... "

Yes, but more doctor's prefer Camels...

[MassuhDGoodName]

The little girl is right!

She is going to grow a hundred years!

That's because by taking her Doctor's advice and smoking Camels she's going to grow a hundred years of aging by the time she's thirty-five years old!

*so if she wants to be healthy she should switch to Chesterfield!

[MassuhDGoodName]

Post Script to the smoking ads:

I have come to the conclusion that any and all advertising such as this should be made legal again and promoted without any restrictions whatsoever.

My reasoning?

If America is to ever see a real first world economy again, we'd better repeat the behaviors which allowed us to have one in the first place!

Allow the tobacco farmers to earn a living and support their families and properties again!

Let the public smoke all the time anywhere it wants including in movie theatres, and college classrooms.

After all the prohibitions of our freedom to advertise and manufacture tobacco, resulting in two generations taught to refrain and disdain tobacco use, we now have the worst cancer epidemic in recorded history among Americans who work out in gymns, don't smoke, don't eat meat, drive tiny cars with catalytic converters, and are no longer subject to the smokestacks of the iron and steel, paper and textile mills, and industrial chemical manufacturers.

And these "smarter", "healthier" Americans contracting brain tumors, lung, breast, bladder, colon, and prostate cancers are arguably the most uneducated, unintelligent, violent prone, and dangerous American generation ever produced.

The very least we can do is rebuild a solid American economy - starting with agriculture.

Let's let stupid Americans be what they want to be -- stupid - and live happily and free once again!

[Maimonides]

Because then there sales for medicine to treat Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs) would plummet. There would be less HIV/AIDS, herpes, genital warts, gonerrhea etc...

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

Post Script to the smoking ads:

I have come to the conclusion that any and all advertising such as this should be made legal again and promoted without any restrictions whatsoever.

My reasoning?

If America is to ever see a real first world economy again, we'd better repeat the behaviors which allowed us to have one in the first place!

Allow the tobacco farmers to earn a living and support their families and properties again!

Let the public smoke all the time anywhere it wants including in movie theatres, and college classrooms.

After all the prohibitions of our freedom to advertise and manufacture tobacco, resulting in two generations taught to refrain and disdain tobacco use, we now have the worst cancer epidemic in recorded history among Americans who work out in gymns, don't smoke, don't eat meat, drive tiny cars with catalytic converters, and are no longer subject to the smokestacks of the iron and steel, paper and textile mills, and industrial chemical manufacturers.

And these "smarter", "healthier" Americans contracting brain tumors, lung, breast, bladder, colon, and prostate cancers are arguably the most uneducated, unintelligent, violent prone, and dangerous American generation ever produced.

The very least we can do is rebuild a solid American economy - starting with agriculture.

Let's let stupid Americans be what they want to be -- stupid - and live happily and free once again!

Let's not forget the copious, but guiltless drinking of whisky at any time of the day!

[Debbie Shafer]

It is an Abomination!  God listens to people who repent, and do not sin again,  but he will not save those who ignore his commandments!!!!

[JTFenthusiast2]

The reason the pharmaceutical companies haven't "found" a cure for homosexuality is because they don't see it as a disorder, and the reason it is not seen as a disorder now the way it was before is because atheist principles now trump science in the academic arena.  Thankfully G-d is much more advanced than our society and has already classified homosexuality along with bestiality as perversion, detestable, abomination, etc.  The best cure for it is to be put to death because then there's a pretty good chance you won't do it again.

Sounds like sharia

[JTFenthusiast2]

Sharia does sanction murdering homosexuals.  This is not an insignificant commonality

[JTFenthusiast2]

There is no point in arguing about this.  Not everything in the Bible is to be taken literally.  In the Talmud,  it is written that one homosexual was executed in a 70 year time span by the Sanhedrin.  According to you, we should kill 10 percent of the population.  Your thoughts are your responsibility and are between you and Hashem.  However, I would encourage you to think twice before posting such comments for a variety of reasons so basic that they need not be elucidated.

[JTFenthusiast2]

I don't remember the details.   I do support the death penalty.  Also there is much beginning neuroanatomical evidence that sexual orientation is biological, not endocrinologically driven, but driven by hardcore neural wiring.  This doesn't take anything away from the Bible.  It does say that there is more to this phenomena than people originally thought.  One of the reasons why early Jews were so against homosexuality was because they were fighting Roman paganism which was replete with homosexuality.  I believe I read a book once by a scholar who argued from the Maccabees that the then Jewish reaction to homosexuality was very much based on their antipathy towards Rome and the seduction of Jewish Youth to Hellenism. 
    Without heterosexuality, there is no continuation of the species, therefore anything that encourages heterosexuality and reproduction, specifically of decent persons, must be encouraged.  I do not believe we should encourage heterosexual relations outside of marriage under any circumstances of which I am presently aware.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "In the Talmud,  it is written that one homosexual was executed in a 70 year time span by the Sanhedrin. "

What?

A few self-declared "Holy Men" full of 1st Century Geocentric Fervor think they're gonna' take power in Eretz Yisrael and "put everything back just like it was in the good ole' days"?

They'll end up with a large outraged group of people cutting their balls off and gouging out their eyes - and that's if they're lucky.

But I really don't think it'll ever get to that ...

Because the first time a few thousand homos and dykes armed with AK-47's come knocking on the front doors of the New Sanhedrin members in the middle of the night, there's likely to be a verdict calling for "constructive dialogue" and "open discussion" in all future matters.

Now, if Moshiach arrives and personally sets the world straight, that's something altogether different.

Those who think that they personally know exactly how all the prophecies are going to be fulfilled are, in my opinion, people who know nothing at all.

They get so full of they're own newly found fervor that they can actually envision themselves supervising the building of the Temple, and they are convinced that "somehow" all Jews are going to beg to be governed by strict Torah Law as practiced in 100 B.C.E. .

I can just see it now:  The Rabbi takes his car into be serviced.  Looking under the hood, the repairman begins explaining to how the design of his rotary engine was once considered impossible prior to modern science's acceptance of a Heliocentric Solar System.  Suddenly, the Rabbi blows into a whistle, and the Torah Police burst into the garage, place the mechanic in chains, and carry him away to be tried for the heinous crime of "Torah Denial".  The mechanic refuses to publicly repent, and is stoned to death.

Yes, the Land of Israel will soon be a Jewish paradise!

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

After all the prohibitions of our freedom to advertise and manufacture tobacco, resulting in two generations taught to refrain and disdain tobacco use, we now have the worst cancer epidemic in recorded history among Americans who work out in gymns, don't smoke, don't eat meat, drive tiny cars with catalytic converters, and are no longer subject to the smokestacks of the iron and steel, paper and textile mills, and industrial chemical manufacturers. 

You are living in a dreamworld.   This is not how people behave.   Are you living inside of a cave without human interaction?   Furthermore, cancer develops over many years.   The people with cancer NOW (many of them) are people who smoked throughout their lives because of the ignorance of its dangers to health.   Your cigarette promotion is one of the silliest things on this forum.   

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

There is no point in arguing about this.  Not everything in the Bible is to be taken literally.  In the Talmud,  it is written that one homosexual was executed in a 70 year time span by the Sanhedrin. 

Sure would suck to be that guy

I mean, with all of those gay people, why him.

In seriousness though, I don't think the Talmud singles out homosexuality, it's speaking about death sentences in general.   (There are other crimes which are punished by death, including murder).

[takebackourtemple]

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Re:  "In the Talmud,  it is written that one homosexual was executed in a 70 year time span by the Sanhedrin. "

What?

A few self-declared "Holy Men" full of 1st Century Geocentric Fervor think they're gonna' take power in Eretz Yisrael and "put everything back just like it was in the good ole' days"? 

I assure you that yourself and wonga will not be members of a reconstituted Sanhedrin.   

Now, if Moshiach arrives and personally sets the world straight, that's something altogether different. 

"Sets the world straight" doing what, exactly?

Those who think that they personally know exactly how all the prophecies are going to be fulfilled are, in my opinion, people who know nothing at all.

Which prophecies would those be?
And who presumes to know how they are fulfilled?

A Sanhedrin is supposed to be reconstituted regardless of what prophecies are fulfilled and when. 
Historically, I think it was Rabbi Yosef Caro, the author of the Shulhan Arukh, himself, who tried to convene one!  And that was in the 1600's or so, when no one had any illusions that any prophecies were fulfilled.   
So I wonder about the relevance of the prophecy tangent and its relation to the subject at hand.

They get so full of they're own newly found fervor that they can actually envision themselves supervising the building of the Temple, and they are convinced that "somehow" all Jews are going to beg to be governed by strict Torah Law as practiced in 100 B.C.E. . 

   

I really don't think Karaites are going to be able to form a Sanhedrin, nor have the interest in doing so. 

I can just see it now:  The Rabbi takes his car into be serviced.  Looking under the hood, the repairman begins explaining to how the design of his rotary engine was once considered impossible prior to modern science's acceptance of a Heliocentric Solar System.  Suddenly, the Rabbi blows into a whistle, and the Torah Police burst into the garage, place the mechanic in chains, and carry him away to be tried for the heinous crime of "Torah Denial".  The mechanic refuses to publicly repent, and is stoned to death.

I think I very nearly had that mechanic's experience on this forum!

Yes, the Land of Israel will soon be a Jewish paradise!

We can only hope so.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

With all due respect, Daniel, you are one of the most useless persons ever to "grace" JTF.

[Zelhar]

I don't remember the details.   I do support the death penalty.  Also there is much beginning neuroanatomical evidence that sexual orientation is biological, not endocrinologically driven, but driven by hardcore neural wiring.  This doesn't take anything away from the Bible.  It does say that there is more to this phenomena than people originally thought.  One of the reasons why early Jews were so against homosexuality was because they were fighting Roman paganism which was replete with homosexuality.  I believe I read a book once by a scholar who argued from the Maccabees that the then Jewish reaction to homosexuality was very much based on their antipathy towards Rome and the seduction of Jewish Youth to Hellenism. 
    Without heterosexuality, there is no continuation of the species, therefore anything that encourages heterosexuality and reproduction, specifically of decent persons, must be encouraged.  I do not believe we should encourage heterosexual relations outside of marriage under any circumstances of which I am presently aware.

JTFE, the Torah was given over a thousand years before the Greeks and the Romans set foot on Israel. But you may not be far off because the Canaanites and other neighboring people had religions which actually far more perverse than the ancient Greeks and the Romans.

[JTFenthusiast2]

JTFE, the Torah was given over a thousand years before the Greeks and the Romans set foot on Israel. But you may not be far off because the Canaanites and other neighboring people had religions which actually far more perverse than the ancient Greeks and the Romans.
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Zelhar,

I didnt write that clearly.  The book of Maccabees was later added to the Hebrew Canon. It is not in the Tanakh

[Zelhar]

JTFE, the Torah was given over a thousand years before the Greeks and the Romans set foot on Israel. But you may not be far off because the Canaanites and other neighboring people had religions which actually far more perverse than the ancient Greeks and the Romans.

Zelhar,

I didnt write that clearly.  The book of Maccabees was later added to the Hebrew Canon. It is not in the Tanakh
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But the forbidding of homosexuality is from the Torah itself.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Daniel, come here and answer us. Don't run away like a little kurva.

I didn't like Paulette's video one bit and I really don't like how she acted afterwards. But you are the one who caused all of this mess and provoked her into posting it. You are not one bit different from the pro-Arab faggot in Paulette's video. In fact, you are worse because there are more of you and you vote in an organized fashion. You, Daniel, would have voted for Adolf Shitler (yimach schmo) himself if he promised to keep up the mass murder of babies (even though almost half of the babies murdered by abortion are the blacks you supposedly love so much), legalize faggot "marriage", outlaw all guns, and give every negro in America free food, housing, and health care for life. You are the reason why the existence of the state of Israel is in jeopardy. You are the reason why nobody respects Jews and view them as the punching bag of the world. Traitor leftists like yourself (and no I don't mean Jews like that other moron Coon, I mean leftist Western whites in general) are the reason why we have a Nazi in the oval office. Are you very proud of yourself? Are you glad that you ignored all of our "urban legends" and put that chocolate-skinned fuhrer in the oval office?

You are scum of the earth and unless you repent, you will meet the same fate as that pro-Fakestinian queer from that video in the afterlife.

[Lisa]

Frankly I don't understand this love affair that Jews have with the Democratic party, and Obama for that matter.  The fact of the matter is that people willfully chose to ignore all the warning signs about the man.  And for what?  Is the promise of free health care, abortion on demand and "free government goodies" from the EEVIL rich really that alluring? 

Daniel, what does Judaism mean to you?  Does it mean achieving "social justice?"  Is it about equality of outcomes?  If so, how is that different from what liberals of other religions believe?