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Portlanders Condemn FBI Probe Leading To Arrest of Terror Suspect

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101130/ap_on_re_us/us_portland_car_bomb_plot

If there were a city to deserve such a gift from the Religion of Feces, it would be Portland--too bad many innocent people and children would also suffer though.

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Portlanders condemn bomb plot, criticize FBI probe
By NIGEL DUARA, Associated Press
– Mon Nov 29, 9:45 pm ET

PORTLAND, Ore. – Some residents of this famously liberal city are unnerved, not only by a plot to bomb an annual Christmas tree-lighting ceremony last week but also by the police tactics in the case.
They questioned whether federal agents crossed the line by training 19-year-old Somali-American Mohamed O. Mohamud to blow up a bomb, giving him $3,000 cash to rent an apartment and providing him with a fake bomb.
The FBI affidavit "was a picture painted to make the suspect sound like a dangerous terrorist," said Portland photographer Rich Burroughs. "I don't think it's clear at all that this person would have ever had access to even a fake bomb if not for the FBI."
Mohamud's defense lawyer said in court on Monday that agents groomed his client and timed his arrest for publicity's sake.
Public defender Stephen Sady focused on the FBI's failed attempt to record a first conversation between Mohamud and an FBI undercover operative. "In the cases involving potential entrapment, it's the initial meeting that matters," Sady said.
Attorney General Eric Holder defended the agents on Monday, rejecting entrapment accusations.
Once the undercover operation began, Mohamud, who officials said had no formal ties to foreign terror groups, "chose at every step to continue" with the bombing plot, Holder said.
To be sure, many Portlanders were unsettled that a terror plot could unfold in their backyard — in Pioneer Courthouse Square, as thousands cheered the tree lighting — and not in much higher-profile cities such as New York or Los Angeles.
At a time when people are focused on body scans and intrusive pat-downs to prevent terrorist attacks, some Portlanders wondered if the FBI had gone too far and unnecessarily scared residents.
"What is distressing about the incident is not so much that the FBI arrested or otherwise intervened," said resident Joe Clement, 24, "but that the FBI used him to create a scenario that scared a lot of people."
It is not unusual in Portland for actions by federal agents to be met with skepticism and criticism.
Portland was the first city in the nation to pull its officers from the FBI's terrorism task force in 2005. The move came after the FBI wrongfully arrested a Portland attorney as a suspect in the 2004 Madrid train bombings — a mistake that prompted an FBI apology.
"I don't think there will be much serious debate as to whether or not (Mohamud) should have been a person worth looking into," said resident Christopher Frankonis, 41. "Portland being Portland, and Portland being liberal, it will understand and accept" it.
But Portland being what it is, residents will "still want answers to questions about how it all went down," he said.
The Portland plot was reminiscent of other recent arrests. A 34-year-old Pakistani-American was accused of targeting the Washington, D.C., subway system in October and authorities say a 19-year-old Jordanian man tried to bring down a Dallas building with a truck bomb in Sept. 2009. In both cases, federal agents had set up elaborate ruses to ensnare the men.
In Mohamud's case, the FBI set up a sting operation to investigate him after receiving a tip.
Two undercover federal agents led Mohamud to believe he could detonate a bomb with a cell phone, helped him choose an apartment in Portland and instructed him to buy the equipment necessary to trigger the fake device.
Authorities say he parked a van full of explosives near the square on Friday night and was arrested shortly after he dialed a cell phone that he thought would blow up the bomb. He was charged with attempting to detonate a weapon of mass destruction.
Kim Bissett, a former student of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, said she moved to Portland because it is a liberal city. She said most of the anger was from the suburbs, not from city residents.
"The angriest people are those from the suburbs, not necessarily Portland, which is very accepting," Bissett said.
A Monday editorial by the city's major newspaper, The Oregonian, expressed gratitude toward federal agents, saying it was "enormously comforting" that they had Mohamud "well in hand for the past five months, stringing him along as he plotted to kill as many people as he could in Pioneer Courthouse Square."
A fire on Sunday destroyed part of the Salman Al-Farisi Islamic Center in Corvallis, a college town about 75 miles southwest of Portland. Mohamud occasionally worshipped at the center while attending Oregon State. No one was injured.
Police believe the fire was intentionally set and increased patrols around mosques and other Islamic sites in Portland.
At a news conference in Washington, Holder also said the FBI was investigating the fire. If the blaze is related to the arrest or to an attack on Islam, it "is something that I personally decry," Holder said.
"It is not something that is consistent with who we are as Americans," he said.
While leaders in the Somali community in the U.S. condemned the plot, some, including a friend of Mohamud, were concerned about federal agents possibly luring him into breaking the law.
Mujahid El-Naser, 20, said he didn't believe Mohamud would have gotten involved in the plot without FBI encouragement. El-Naser, who has played basketball with Mohamud, said he never heard him express extremist views.
"If you talk with someone enough, they'll be convinced they need to do something," said El-Naser, who gathered outside the federal court building with a couple of dozen people before a court hearing where Mohamud pleaded not guilty.
Mohamud's lawyer asked a judge to order the government to preserve whatever devices, storage media or locations might have been used for a July 30 meeting at a downtown Portland hotel.
At the meeting, an FBI affidavit said, Mohamud talked of "putting stuff in a car, parking it by a target, and detonating it." While the undercover agent was equipped with audio recording equipment, it didn't work, for reasons the affidavit left unexplained.
Sady said preserving the evidence would allow defense experts to examine it, and Judge John Acosta granted the request.
A defense of entrapment must prove that the government planted the idea of a criminal act in an innocent person's mind and brought about the crime so the government could prosecute it.
Key to the defense is showing the defendant wasn't predisposed to act criminally before the government got involved.
In this case, the FBI affidavit said it was Mohamud who picked the target of the bomb plot, that he was warned several times about the seriousness of his plan, that women and children could die, and that he could back out.
Mohamud "was told that children — children — were potentially going to be harmed," Holder added.
Authorities said they allowed the plot to continue so they could gather enough evidence to charge him with attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction.
Portland Mayor Sam Adams said he will review the city's decision to remove itself from the Justice Department's Joint Terrorism Task Force, a cooperative among state, local and federal law enforcement.
"We have a new federal administration," he said. "There have been changes to federal practices and federal laws."
Mohamud was investigated for rape in 2009 but never charged. The Benton County District Attorney's Office didn't find a reason to charge Mohamud with a crime after a woman whose name was redacted in the documents filed a sexual assault complaint.
Mohamud had sex with the woman in an Oregon State dorm room on Oct. 31, 2009. He said in the documents that he and the woman were "a little tipsy" when they left a fraternity party and returned to his dorm room.
Tests on the woman failed to show any controlled substances or common pharmaceuticals in her body.
Mohamud's attorney, Steven Wax, could not immediately be reached for comment.

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I would give a reward to whoever burned the crooked mosque he belonged to...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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G-d bless the FBI!  The critics of this FBI sting operation make my blood boil.  They are so attached to their idiotic liberal views that they've lost their sanity, quite frankly, when they can't see what the FBI prevented here.  The maximum penalty that this Somali Muslim Nazi can get is life in prison and I certainly hope that the judge gives him just that.  In my opinion, he deserves the death penalty.

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This people are behind every sanity and reason. The Muslims would slaughter them all if they could.

Remember, the Iranian leftists helped Ayatholla Khomeinei against the Shah. And then they were nearly all murdered as reward. But leftists doesn't learn.
"Cities run by progressives don't know how to police. ... Thirty cities went up last night, I went and looked at every one of them. Every one of them has a progressive Democratic mayor." Rudolph Giuliani

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I wonder what can be done to cure sick leftist minds.

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I wonder what can be done to cure sick leftist minds.

Only the Hasmonean solution

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I wonder what can be done to cure sick leftist minds.

Only the Hasmonean solution

I believe certain leftists can be cured. They are not all like Nazis, who are a helpless case and who do not deserve to be helped anyway because they are evil to the core. Some leftists are weak and blind but their souls are not necessarily evil. They have been indoctrinated and contaminated with wrong values, such as the pity of the fools. But we can get to them. They can change. They can realize that they should not be kind to the cruel and become more righteous people.
Of course that doesn't apply to all leftists. Bolsheviks basically deserve the same treatment as Nazis.

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I think that virtually every single person who is so low as to actually be defending a jihadist mass murderer is beyond all hope. It would take a miraculous religious experience to do it, and these people are the kind who have consciously made every effort to shut G-d out of their hearts and minds.

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I think that virtually every single person who is so low as to actually be defending a jihadist mass murderer is beyond all hope. It would take a miraculous religious experience to do it, and these people are the kind who have consciously made every effort to shut G-d out of their hearts and minds.

Yes, in this case I agree. I was referring to less degenerate persons.

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and these people are the kind who have consciously made every effort to shut G-d out of their hearts and minds.
*One edit to myself, unless one considers Allah to be G-d...

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They are unable to see that this FBI sting operation brought about the potential danger in to open in a most harmless manner. They can not see it because those leftists are the cannon fodders of the muslamic terrorism. 
There are thunders and sparks in the skies, because Faraday invented the electricity.

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Those muslims can go to hell

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glad the FBI caught the little piece of [censored] jihadi, but it seems like they spent a LOT of time, effort, resources on the punk wannabe terrorist... meanwhile the FBI is busy hanging out with al-qaeda funding muslims at ramadan feasts.
Also, a hearty  :::D goes to the jihadi's name:  Mohamed Mohamud.
And idiot leftists protesting the FBI should not get any FBI protection.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/29822/the-christmas-tree-terrorist-fbi-set-ups-ignore-real-islamic-terrorists/#more-29822

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But, while the FBI entrapment of Mohamud is the latest in a series of FBI set-ups that show us American Muslims generally have a predilection for terrorism, if they think they can get away with it, it’s not a big terrorist sting. Not even close. In fact, the real extremist Muslims (redundant phrase) in America are the ones who are actively pursuing terrorist jihad on their own. They are prominent members in the Islamic community, the ones with whom the FBI regularly breaks bread and refuses to entrap the way they entrapped this guy and others. As I’ve noted on this site more times than I can count, the FBI has its preferred set of “Islamic terrorists,” and that means anyone in the Islamic or Arabic leadership is never pursued. Just doesn’t happen anymore. Because, ya know, we can’t embarrass them . . . and the feds who still have brown on their nose tips from butt-kissing them.  The rest is just theater.  Most terrorists the FBI  arrests are not home-grown terrorists, they’re FBI-grown terrorists.

In fact, most of the Arab, African, and converted Muslim men who’ve been arrested and indicted by the feds in the last couple of years are lone men whom the FBI targeted, encouraged, and set up, every step of the way. There was a White convert to Islam in Illinois who was a Burger King fan. There was a Lebanese Shi’ite Muslim alien in his 20s in Chicago. There was a Jordanian Palestinian Muslim illegal alien in Dallas. There were the group of Black prison converts to Islam in Detroit. And now, there’s this guy, Mohamud, a Somalian Muslim immigrant in Portland, Oregon. All of them were actively enticed by the FBI. Every single one was cajoled into doing these terrorist attacks–into detonating inert, fake bombs (the exception is the Detroit group, which the FBI couldn’t convince to perpetrate terrorist attacks at the Superbowl, so it got them to accept what they thought was stolen merchandise, instead–not the stuff of Islamic terrorism.)

Yes, we know that real Muslims could have done the same with them, with real bombs, etc. And in some cases real Muslims in Pakistan or elsewhere did make inroads, such as with Mohamud. But, in reality, these guys were mostly not planning anything until the FBI planned it for them.  In Mohamud’s case, his own father contacted the FBI with concerns, and then the FBI started with the phony e-mails to Mohamud.  But in most of these cases, there isn’t even that going on.  The FBI initiates the whole thing and sets it up from start to finish.

And the reason the FBI has to create these Islamic terrorists is to pretend they are actually going after Islamic terrorists, when in fact, they are actively meeting with them and breaking pita with them.

For example, in Detroit, Andrew Arena, the FBI Special Agent in Charge is really Special Agent in Charge of Butt-Snorkeling Imad Hamad, a “former” Islamic terrorist, whom the feds caught time and again, including recently, raising money for Islamic terrorism. But they won’t arrest Hamad. They don’t need to set him up the way they set up Mohamud or any of the other indictees I mentioned below. Hamad is already actively engaged in terrorist activity. He knows it. The FBI and the U.S. Attorney in Detroit know it. But he’s a prominent Arab leader, so they kiss his ass instead of pulling a Mohamud.

And I’ve written about many other such cases, including four current and past U.S. Attorneys in Detroit attending Ramadan dinners at an Islamic charity they know is laundering money to Al-Qaeda and HAMAS and whom they raided in a fraudulent show raid that was never followed up with any indictment. Meanwhile $20 million a year gets sucked out of the U.S. and into HAMAS, Al-Qaeda, and Taliban coffers from that charity.

Those are the real Islamic terrorists. And all over the country, the FBI refuses to go after them, or when they do, the feds refuse to actively prosecute them. All over the nation, FBI officials and other agents are pandering to the real, active Islamic terrorists, their supporters, and their lawyers. I’ve seen it over and over again, not just here in Detroit, but in every major city.

Yes, Mohamud was dangerous. But he was an inert grenade set off by FBI agents, while all around us there are active terrorism operations whose perpetrators are invitees at the latest Ramadan dinner or hosts of events which the FBI is eagerly sponsoring. The FBI is creating surface wounds and slapping bandages on them; and not just ignoring the bloody gashes of entrenched extremist Muslims, but encouraging them. Mohamud’s plan was all FBI inspiration AND perspiration with a loser/patsy to go along with it.

So, yes, Somalian Muslims are a huge problem, and Mohamud was a sorta, maybe potential problem. But not the major terrorism “get” we’re being led to believe.

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Real problem is that the real muslamic terrorists can not be trapped by such methods of entrapment. They can emerge clean each time till their end. 
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