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« Reply #225 on: June 04, 2007, 09:59:39 AM »
We abhor holocaust deniers. But it seems like some of you are denying things that took place during the slave trade. That's just as abominable.

Daniel, why do statistics show, consistently for as many years as you can trace back that there are/have been virtually NO white men in jail for raping black women? Why? Why at one point in history would there be this great outpouring of rape against black women then poooof, NOTHING? That's a fair question. Why as white men have less and less power and control aren't these figures rising? Because we are not comparable to [censored] men. 
Are you saying that there is proof that white men don't rape black women? You have got to be joking. You know nothing. Absolutely nothing of what you're talking about.

Here Erica, chew on this for awhile;

When whites do violence — rape, murder, assault — how often do they choose black victims? Shouldn’t a nation of bigots target blacks most of the time? At least half of the time? Of course, it does not. When whites commit violence, they to it to blacks 2.4 percent of the time. Blacks, on the other hand, choose white victims more than half the time. [317]

In those cases in which the race of the killer is known, blacks kill twice as many whites as whites kill blacks. Black-on-white robberies and gang assaults are twenty-one times more common than white on black. In the case of gang robbery, blacks victimize whites fifty-two times more often than whites do blacks. [318]

The contrasts are even more stark in the case of interracial rape. Studies from the late 1950s showed that the vast majority of rapes were same-race offenses. Research in Philadelphia carried out in 1958 and 1960 indicated that of all rapes, only 3.2 percent were black-on-white assaults and 3.6 percent were white-on-black. Since that time, the proportion of black-on-white rapes has soared. In a 1974 study in Denver, 40 percent of all rapes were of whites by blacks, and not one case of white-on-black rape was found. In general, through the 1970s, black-on-white rape was at least ten times more common that white-on-black rape. [319]

Because interracial rape is now overwhelmingly black on white, it has become difficult to do research on it or to find relevant statistics. The FBI keeps very detailed national records on crime, but the way it presents rape data obscures the racial element rather than clarifies it. Dr. William Wilbanks, a criminologist at Florida International University, had to sift carefully through the data to find that in 1988 there were 9,406 cases of black-on-white rape and fewer than ten cases of white-on-black rape. [320] Another researcher concludes that in 1989, blacks were three or four times more likely to commit rape than whites, and that black men raped white women thirty times as often as white men raped black women. [321]

Interracial crime figures are even worse than they sound. Since there are more than six times as many whites as blacks in America, it means that any given black person is vastly more likely to commit a crime against a white than vice versa.
 



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317. "What Should Be Done," US News & World Report (August 22, 1989), p. 54. See also Department of Justice, Criminal Victimization in the United States, 1987 (Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1989), p.7.

318. Department of Justice, Criminal Victimization in the United States, 1987.

319. Gary D. LaFree, "Male Power and Female Victimization: Toward a Theory of Interracial Rape," American Journal of Sociology, Vol. 88, No. 2 (September 1982).

320. William Wilbanks, "Frequency and Nature of Interracial Crimes," submitted for publication to the Justice Professional (November 7, 1990). Data derived from Department of Justice, Criminal Victimization in the United States, 1987, p. 53.

321. Andrew Hacker, Two Nations, pp. 183, 185.

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May 08, 2007
How come white men never rape black women?
I have been asked to comment on this article at FrontPage Magazine, The Truth of Interracial Rape in the United States. Dennis Mangan has a blog post about the article and the controversy.

The article was based on the stats in a U.S. Department of Justice Publication documenting crime statistics in 2005.

There were 160,270 single-offender rapes/sexual assaults reported in 2005. 48.% of the offenders were black, an impressively high total considering that blacks are only 13% of the population.

What's more interesting is when the race of the victim is compared to the race of the offender. For the 111,490 cases where the rape/sexual assault victim was white, 33.6% of the time the perceived race of the offender was black, compared to 44.5% white.

But for the 36,620 cases where the rape/sexual assuult victim was black, 100% of the time the offender was reported to be black. (And we are told that 0% means 10 or fewer reported cases, so it's possible that there have been as many as 10 cases of non-black men raping black women in 2005.)

This is a pretty strange statistic if you think about it. There were approximately 74,029 rape/sexual assaults commited by non-black men, but in no more than 10 of these cases was the victim black? What's wrong with black women that no one wants to rape them? I'd think that 2% of the time the victim would be black so there'd be 1,480 cases of non-blacks raping blacks. But in fact, this happened 10 times or less.

Because only 31.4% of rapes are committed by strangers, the best way a black woman can avoid being raped is to only know white men. (This is not likely to happen, because black women aren't romantically interested in white men.)

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Empowerment by rape: the sexual holocaust

By Greg Kay
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In America, there is a sexual holocaust in progress even as you read this. An orgy of violent rape here at home dwarfs those comparatively recent accounts of rapes in Iraq and the Balkans, as well as the WWII Soviet invasion of Germany and Japanese occupation of mainland Asia. A deliberate program of violent sexual assault by one race upon another: it’s called interracial rape.

Virtually every case of Black on White rape qualifies as a "hate crime," by legal description almost without exception, due to the nature of interracial rape. Certainly every rape by a Negro perpetrated upon a White woman where he has had to leave his predominately Black neighborhood to find her would easily meet that definition. And not only because of the very real racial aspects, enhanced psychological and social consequences to the victim, for, in extreme cases, she may well be cut off from the members of her own society. The reason goes far beyond that.

It is often argued that rape is not a sex crime, but a crime of violence or of power and control. However, interracial rape, while it encompasses all such motivations, is something more. Black-on-White rape is usually a violent political act – a form of terrorism – the ultimate statement of the Black Power Movement that has disguised itself under an innocuous-sounding banner called "civil rights."

Consider this: being able to "take" the woman or women of someone else and use the same for one’s own gratification as an extension of the basic biological desire to breed that pits rutting animals against each other for favor of the herd’s females and passing on one’s genes, that is the ultimate statement of superiority; and the utmost denigration of the male or group to whom the woman in question belongs, as well as the woman herself. That act demonstrates not only to the victim, but also to the kin of both the raped and the rapist, that the rapist has power.

Both the Negroes and their liberal White and Jewish admirers, for having labored tirelessly to boost this race into a position of political power all out of proportion with its numbers and contributions to society, have long recognized one simple if media-overlooked fact: Black-on-White rape, as a political act, has always been part of the world view of radicals and Communists. For example, it was taught at the infamous Jefferson School – a well-known Marxist training center that sent many prominent American Communists of the ’60s to their activities – by Judeo-Communist historian Dr. Herbert Aptheker, among others.

Besides being listed as a noted leader in the Communist Party USA for decades, a delegate to Hanoi with Tom Hayden during the Vietnam War and father of Communist Party USA national committee member cum prominent feminist Bettina Aptheker, this Jewish professor Herbert Aptheker was also reportedly a close associate of the Black Panthers, one who maintained friendship with Panther leader Angela Davis, hence certainly in a position to know what he was talking about.

This rather strange Judeo-Communist attraction to, and alliance with, the Black Power Movement is not simply the product of comparatively recent sixties radicalism and Jewish Communists like the Aptheker Communist Party officers. It includes also radical Youth International Party (Yippie) leaders such as Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin and the closely related Progressive Labor Party (PLP), along with the Young Socialist Alliance (YSA) and Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), the leadership of all three groups having been heavy with leftist Jews. Then there was the Congress for Racial Equality (CORE) and Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee, both with key Jewish Marxist involvement at their founding. And all this is certainly nothing new. As far back as 1912, Israel Cohen referred to the total plot in A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century:

We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by Whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the Whites, we will endeavor to instill in the Whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the Whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.

The dedication to this course of action is reinforced by the words of Rabbi Rabbinovich in Communist Hungary in 1952:

We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia or Africa. I can state with assurance that the last generation of White children is now being born. Our control commission will, in the interests of peace and wiping out inter-racial tensions, forbid the Whites to mate with Whites. The White women must co-habit with members of the dark races, the White man with Black women. Thus the White race will disappear, for mixing the dark with the White means the end of the White Man, and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory. We shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our race will rule undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will enable us to retain mastery over a world of dark peoples.

Additionally, we see that the majority of the founders and every president of the radical Black organization, the NAACP, from its inception in 1909 to well into the 1970s, were part of an unbroken stream of leftist Jews rather than Negroes; in fact, there was only one founding Negro (albeit a light-skinned mulatto Communist) on the board that founded the organization; most of the rest being Marxist Jews. One of (the known Marxist) Martin Luther King’s primary speech-writers and handlers was a Communist Jew named Levinson. Jews made up the majority of those "White" freedom riders, having bragged of giving more than 90% of the funding behind their so-called "civil rights movement," actually the Black Power Movement, that continues as a major factor in the destruction of our society particularly in the South. It should behoove every White man to research and deeply consider the hows and whys, and especially the implications behind this seemingly strange bedfellows alliance.

The American Communists denied at first that any Black-on-White rapes ever occurred, such reports being simply White capitalist propaganda. But when the facts of several cases became too obvious for even them to overlook, the party line switched to suggesting that such acts were not condemnable, rather a semi-laudable revolutionary statement by the most downtrodden sector of the proletariat against the privileged and corrupt elite; it was justified as a form of payback for all of those White-on-Black rapes they claimed had occurred both during slavery and after. To such leftists, the actuality of rape was less "criminal" than for its White victim to go reporting it to the authorities, reinforcing the "racist" stereotype. Thus the victim, in radical Marxist philosophy, became the oppressor – the rapist a brave and patriotic freedom-fighter throwing off his shackles.

The class of educated Negroes, many of whose most notable members were already either openly Communist or sympathetic to them, quickly picked up on this concept of rape as a justified revolutionary act. Radical Negro and Black Panther leader Eldridge Cleaver was quoted declaring so openly.

Rape was an insurrectionary act. It delighted me that I was defying and trampling upon the White man’s law, upon his system of values, and that I was defiling his women – and this point, I believe, was the most satisfying to me because I was very resentful. I was getting revenge.

Black sociologist Calvin C. Hernton, in his work Sex and Racism in America, made the following statements:

"I am well aware that, like murder, rape has many motives. But when the motive for rape, however psychotic, is basically racial, that is a different matter. I think now that, at one time or another, in every Negro who grows up in the South, there is a rapist, no matter how well hidden." The reason for this, he quickly goes on to indicate, is not the fault of the Negro, but of the White man, thus reinforcing a required dogma of radical Communist philosophy.

Although the FBI was inexplicably reluctant to keep records of race in rape statistics for many years, there are other figures out there. Consider the implications of a study done in Washington, DC, a city with a Black majority, by one Dr. Hayman. Hayman, in the late ’60s and early ’70s, recorded the racial data of those women who came to the DC General hospital for medical examinations and treatment following reported rapes. His figures are disturbing. In this particular urban area, Black on Black rape accounted for 76% of all reported cases of violent sexual assault, while White on White rape made up 3%, and White on Black rape less than ½%. Astonishingly, Black on White rape amounted to 21% of the total, indicating very clearly that urban Blacks raped not only at a rate of 97 to 3 in comparison to the urban "White" population (a deceptive figure in itself, since the statistically much more crime-prone Mestizo-Hispanic population is considered White in most official reports), but that they are far, far more likely to choose White victims than a White rapist is to choose a Black victim.

In the ground-breaking study, The Color of Crime, the figures show that American Negroes in general are 38 times more likely to commit interracial rape than Whites (again, with Mestizo-Hispanics who have a much higher crime rate than ethnic Europeans counted as White) on a per-capita basis. In fact, even though Blacks make up a fairly small percentage of the population (about 13%), they commit the vast majority of all interracial crimes, including rape, in actual numbers of crimes. For instance, in 1994, Negroes committed 30,000 interracial rapes, while Whites (again, including Mestizo-Hispanics) committed only 5,400, despite a White population several times larger.

These and other studies have shown conclusively what interracial rape is. For all practical purposes, it must be seen that in the general public rape follows the same pattern as in prison, almost exclusively a Black on White phenomenon. Which leaves one with the question: "Why?" Are Blacks simply more culturally or genetically prone to rape than other ethnic groups? That answer, from all available statistics is obviously a resounding "Yes," but there’s more to it. Radical Blacks and their leftist defenders have given us that reason – but one we refuse to accept. Do they know something we don’t, namely that we’re in a war, not for "equality," as there can never be true and total equality in an artificially integrated society of two groups so very different, but a war for the supremacy of the one and total subjugation and ultimate destruction of the other, with no middle ground and no neutrality? Could it be that Caucasians, the White race, are in a war for their place in the world and, ultimately, for their very survival, and nobody has told them?

Or, worse, could it be they’ve been told many times – by voices "crying in the wilderness" – but chose not to hear?

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Racism! What a handy epithet those scapegoating racists hurl at this paper for printing the truth… – Ed.





My problem with this isn't frequency, its that it happens at all. And I think that everytime a whites are said to have raped, robbed , or killed a black person its always compared to how many times more a black person does these things to white people. There shouldn't be a statistic. The fact  that it happens even sparingly is a non-issue. To say that it isn't happening at all though, as you first said, shrinks the crime down to .."Aw, its not that bad."

I wasn't explaining to you my experience with the crime to jarr you but to add comparison to your theory that black slave women were too ugly to rape. It isn't about attraction at all...its about power, control and taking advantage of those who can't fight for themselves...which is why I mentioned elderly women who are raped.

Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.

I read an article last night where the question "What's wrong with black women that white men won't rape them". I tilted my head in confusion because the question was a cruel one. Should we be happy or ashamed that white men won't rape us. Rape has nothing to do with asthetic beauty, as I mentioned earlier.

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« Reply #226 on: June 04, 2007, 10:54:47 AM »
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
 ???
So white women are usually in the same place as black men and that is why they are raped by them more often.
Are you being possessed by FOTL? :o

A black man breaks into a white woman's house and rapes her - how does that fit in with your theory?
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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« Reply #227 on: June 04, 2007, 11:38:47 AM »
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
 ???
So white women are usually in the same place as black men and that is why they are raped by them more often.
Are you being possessed by FOTL? :o

A black man breaks into a white woman's house and rapes her - how does that fit in with your theory?

Bullcat. Leave me alone. Because no matter what I say you're going to behave this way. And by the way, FOTL is posessed by his thoughts of the black man being more desirable than he is to white women. This has nothing to do with rape. You have a way of perverting every  post you respond to.

My reason is just an opinion, not fact. Besides, I really responded with that opinion because there is an article that contains the question "What's wrong with black women that white men won't rape them?" Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same. Its not about the way you look, its the control.

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« Reply #228 on: June 04, 2007, 12:01:10 PM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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« Reply #229 on: June 04, 2007, 12:23:06 PM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.

Forget it, when presented with the cold hard reality she just dances around it. It must be very difficult as a black female to come to terms with what the other half of her race really is. Something that belongs not on planet earth. 

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« Reply #230 on: June 04, 2007, 12:47:34 PM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.

Forget it, when presented with the cold hard reality she just dances around it. It must be very difficult as a black female to come to terms with what the other half of her race really is. Something that belongs not on planet earth. 
I agree Allen T.
I have enjoyed your exchange with her though - good job as usual.




 
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« Reply #231 on: June 04, 2007, 01:03:21 PM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.

Forget it, when presented with the cold hard reality she just dances around it. It must be very difficult as a black female to come to terms with what the other half of her race really is. Something that belongs not on planet earth. 
I agree Allen T.
I have enjoyed your exchange with her though - good job as usual.




 

I thought the last article in particular that I posted was especially powerful. Chaim says it all the time that when he rides public transportation in NYC that women of color gravitate toward him rather than toward darker men. I ride the same system as Chaim but I don't really notice that maybe because I am 6'3" about 300lbs often sporting a wild beard. Women tend to flee from me. Weird too, as I am in the minority of men that would actually risk their neck in a situation where an unknown female is being assaulted by a male or males. WARNING; I have done this in the past. It is essential if you see a female being attacked by a man that you make sure it's not a boyfriend/lover situation or something like that. IN 9 out of 10 such cases like that the demented female will attack you as you start beating the crap out of her boyfriend/lover/whatever!!!!! This has happened to me 3 times and I know other like minded men that will testify the same. MAKE SURE that the woman wants help if this seems to be the case, you can usually tell if it's a stranger or not. One friend was kicked in the face by the woman while he was pounding the guy on the ground and had a serious injury to one eye, though thank G-d didn't lose his vision.
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« Reply #232 on: June 04, 2007, 01:36:08 PM »
You really do have to watch what situations you try to intervene in.
It's true, in situations like that, before you know it - you're the one being attacked.
I witnessed that in the City myself a few years back.  I felt so sorry for the poor man that only tried to do what was right.
You might be tall Allen T with a 'wild beard' but I bet I would choose to sit next to you any day versus most of the other choices your confronted with on NYC trains.
Anyway your not scary looking I saw a shot of you on a SamanthaTheCat video
Blacks know all about black on black crime.
Is it any wonder they gravitate to Chaim.   ;)
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« Reply #233 on: June 04, 2007, 02:14:56 PM »
You really do have to watch what situations you try to intervene in.
It's true, in situations like that, before you know it - you're the one being attacked.
I witnessed that in the City myself a few years back.  I felt so sorry for the poor man that only tried to do what was right.
You might be tall Allen T with a 'wild beard' but I bet I would choose to sit next to you any day versus most of the other choices your confronted with on NYC trains.
Anyway your not scary looking I saw a shot of you on a SamanthaTheCat video
Blacks know all about black on black crime.
Is it any wonder they gravitate to Chaim.   ;)

Thanks, I was well groomed in that video! ;D I find that when I am walking around alot at night women seem terrified of me and will often cross the street if they see me coming. Whatever, as long as my wife doesn't take off!! ;D ;D ;D. In Europe I found the opposite true, a woman squeezed my butt once I couldn't stop laughing!! 

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« Reply #234 on: June 04, 2007, 02:28:05 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D

As far as here in the U.S. - don't take it personally - I would cross the street with any man coming towards me at night - even my husband - who is 5'8" on his tippytoes.

True - as long as your wife is on the same side of the street as you - your lucky.
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« Reply #235 on: June 04, 2007, 02:30:33 PM »
;D ;D ;D

As far as here in the U.S. - don't take it personally - I would cross the street with any man coming towards me at night - even my husband - who is 5'8" on his tippytoes.

True - as long as your wife is on the same side of the street as you - your lucky.

I guess you are right.

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« Reply #236 on: June 04, 2007, 04:54:36 PM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.

Forget it, when presented with the cold hard reality she just dances around it. It must be very difficult as a black female to come to terms with what the other half of her race really is. Something that belongs not on planet earth. 
You said it Allen-T I'm done with Imerica and Danial they just keep giving you double speak and story twisting  after a while your going in circles. Someone on the forum advised in a post months ago  that arguing with Liberals to early in the day would result in a massive headaches boy was he ever correct. Let the two of them have a ball with each other. . Between Liberal speaking points and revisionism of the worst kind its just a total waste of my time.
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« Reply #237 on: June 04, 2007, 07:29:53 PM »
LOL, but you didn't answer the question, where would all these blacks be if they weren't brought here to be slaves?
Generation after generation where would they be now?
Tell me where they would be living and what they would be doing.

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« Reply #238 on: June 05, 2007, 01:29:46 AM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.
Again, no one is talking about exposing themselves to black men... THAT would mean that the women consented. And that's not the case. What I'm saying is that the black community isn't full of white men...its full of black men. Out of those black men some may be mentally ill or just plain evil enough to rape a woman just because he feels he needs to overpower someone smaller than he is.

And when black women DID get raped by white men in the days of slavery, it wasn't because they were exposing themselves to Massah. It was because they were females who weren't as strong as their oppressor. I hope you're not saying that the black women who did get raped during slavery deserved it.

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« Reply #239 on: June 05, 2007, 01:32:03 AM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.

Forget it, when presented with the cold hard reality she just dances around it. It must be very difficult as a black female to come to terms with what the other half of her race really is. Something that belongs not on planet earth. 
Again, Allen, I didn't dance around anything. I agreed with what you said. That mostly black men rape black women...that isn't to say that white men don't rape black women at all. Its just not a big number... which is what I mentioned takes away the seriousness of the crime.

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« Reply #240 on: June 05, 2007, 02:02:57 AM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.

Forget it, when presented with the cold hard reality she just dances around it. It must be very difficult as a black female to come to terms with what the other half of her race really is. Something that belongs not on planet earth. 
Actually, I have no problem coming to terms with what the other half of my race does.... I've explained that I realize that a great deal of black people in my culture commit crimes. I KNOW THIS. If you're angry because I choose not to make my every waking hour about complaining about the dumbasses in my culture who screw up, I'm sorry. But if I don't show my children that they have a chance in this world to be full of greatness and affect everyone with it, I'll be just like you and JB, giving subway reports about a race of people who act like idiots. When will that end?

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Re: The Ongoing Debates with Imerica
« Reply #241 on: June 05, 2007, 02:14:02 AM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.

Forget it, when presented with the cold hard reality she just dances around it. It must be very difficult as a black female to come to terms with what the other half of her race really is. Something that belongs not on planet earth. 
Actually, I have no problem coming to terms with what the other half of my race does.... I've explained that I realize that a great deal of black people in my culture commit crimes. I KNOW THIS. If you're angry because I choose not to make my every waking hour about complaining about the dumbasses in my culture who screw up, I'm sorry. But if I don't show my children that they have a chance in this world to be full of greatness and affect everyone with it, I'll be just like you and JB, giving subway reports about a race of people who act like idiots. When will that end?

Actually I am doing something about it. And it's only gonna get better. 

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Re: The Ongoing Debates with Imerica
« Reply #242 on: June 05, 2007, 07:32:47 AM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.
Again, no one is talking about exposing themselves to black men... THAT would mean that the women consented. And that's not the case. What I'm saying is that the black community isn't full of white men...its full of black men. Out of those black men some may be mentally ill or just plain evil enough to rape a woman just because he feels he needs to overpower someone smaller than he is.

And when black women DID get raped by white men in the days of slavery, it wasn't because they were exposing themselves to Massah. It was because they were females who weren't as strong as their oppressor. I hope you're not saying that the black women who did get raped during slavery deserved it.
I did not mean exposing - as in body parts  ;)
I meant being in the same place at the same time. ::)
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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Re: The Ongoing Debates with Imerica
« Reply #243 on: June 05, 2007, 10:03:08 AM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.
Again, no one is talking about exposing themselves to black men... THAT would mean that the women consented. And that's not the case. What I'm saying is that the black community isn't full of white men...its full of black men. Out of those black men some may be mentally ill or just plain evil enough to rape a woman just because he feels he needs to overpower someone smaller than he is.

And when black women DID get raped by white men in the days of slavery, it wasn't because they were exposing themselves to Massah. It was because they were females who weren't as strong as their oppressor. I hope you're not saying that the black women who did get raped during slavery deserved it.
I did not mean exposing - as in body parts  ;)
I meant being in the same place at the same time. ::)

How else was I supposed to take that word, "Exposing"?

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Re: The Ongoing Debates with Imerica
« Reply #244 on: June 05, 2007, 10:05:31 AM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.
Again, no one is talking about exposing themselves to black men... THAT would mean that the women consented. And that's not the case. What I'm saying is that the black community isn't full of white men...its full of black men. Out of those black men some may be mentally ill or just plain evil enough to rape a woman just because he feels he needs to overpower someone smaller than he is.

And when black women DID get raped by white men in the days of slavery, it wasn't because they were exposing themselves to Massah. It was because they were females who weren't as strong as their oppressor. I hope you're not saying that the black women who did get raped during slavery deserved it.
I did not mean exposing - as in body parts  ;)
I meant being in the same place at the same time. ::)

How else was I supposed to take that word, "Exposing"?
In the context of my post.  ???
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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Re: The Ongoing Debates with Imerica
« Reply #245 on: June 05, 2007, 10:35:47 AM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.
Again, no one is talking about exposing themselves to black men... THAT would mean that the women consented. And that's not the case. What I'm saying is that the black community isn't full of white men...its full of black men. Out of those black men some may be mentally ill or just plain evil enough to rape a woman just because he feels he needs to overpower someone smaller than he is.

And when black women DID get raped by white men in the days of slavery, it wasn't because they were exposing themselves to Massah. It was because they were females who weren't as strong as their oppressor. I hope you're not saying that the black women who did get raped during slavery deserved it.
I did not mean exposing - as in body parts  ;)
I meant being in the same place at the same time. ::)

How else was I supposed to take that word, "Exposing"?
In the context of my post.  ???
Remember, Allen T made mention that black women are too ugly to be raped by white men which means, in his mind that the woman would have to put herself out there for a white man to take advantage of. I'm sorry I took your use of the word "expose" wrong. It seemed to be the nature of the thread.

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Re: The Ongoing Debates with Imerica
« Reply #246 on: June 05, 2007, 11:04:39 AM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.
Again, no one is talking about exposing themselves to black men... THAT would mean that the women consented. And that's not the case. What I'm saying is that the black community isn't full of white men...its full of black men. Out of those black men some may be mentally ill or just plain evil enough to rape a woman just because he feels he needs to overpower someone smaller than he is.

And when black women DID get raped by white men in the days of slavery, it wasn't because they were exposing themselves to Massah. It was because they were females who weren't as strong as their oppressor. I hope you're not saying that the black women who did get raped during slavery deserved it.
I did not mean exposing - as in body parts  ;)
I meant being in the same place at the same time. ::)

How else was I supposed to take that word, "Exposing"?
In the context of my post.  ???
Remember, Allen T made mention that black women are too ugly to be raped by white men which means, in his mind that the woman would have to put herself out there for a white man to take advantage of. I'm sorry I took your use of the word "expose" wrong. It seemed to be the nature of the thread.

Although,.....oh nevermind

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Re: The Ongoing Debates with Imerica
« Reply #247 on: June 05, 2007, 11:18:59 AM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.
Again, no one is talking about exposing themselves to black men... THAT would mean that the women consented. And that's not the case. What I'm saying is that the black community isn't full of white men...its full of black men. Out of those black men some may be mentally ill or just plain evil enough to rape a woman just because he feels he needs to overpower someone smaller than he is.

And when black women DID get raped by white men in the days of slavery, it wasn't because they were exposing themselves to Massah. It was because they were females who weren't as strong as their oppressor. I hope you're not saying that the black women who did get raped during slavery deserved it.
I did not mean exposing - as in body parts  ;)
I meant being in the same place at the same time. ::)

How else was I supposed to take that word, "Exposing"?
In the context of my post.  ???
Remember, Allen T made mention that black women are too ugly to be raped by white men which means, in his mind that the woman would have to put herself out there for a white man to take advantage of. I'm sorry I took your use of the word "expose" wrong. It seemed to be the nature of the thread.

Although,.....oh nevermind
Its never stopped you before, Allen... why pause now?

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Re: The Ongoing Debates with Imerica
« Reply #248 on: June 05, 2007, 11:22:43 AM »
WOW.  Erica, you're still here!!!!!    I gotta respect your for that.  You are driven. 
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Re: The Ongoing Debates with Imerica
« Reply #249 on: June 05, 2007, 11:29:59 AM »
Put a sick white OR black man in neighborhood with white or black women and the results will be the same.
On this we can agree.

If I don't agree or question you I'm behaving badly?

I pervert every post I respond to -
What does this mean
Also I want to offer that the reason why white men don't rape black women as often because they're usually not in the same place at the same time. Usually.
So explain to me where all these white women are exposing themselves to black men - I would like to limit my exposure.
Again, no one is talking about exposing themselves to black men... THAT would mean that the women consented. And that's not the case. What I'm saying is that the black community isn't full of white men...its full of black men. Out of those black men some may be mentally ill or just plain evil enough to rape a woman just because he feels he needs to overpower someone smaller than he is.

And when black women DID get raped by white men in the days of slavery, it wasn't because they were exposing themselves to Massah. It was because they were females who weren't as strong as their oppressor. I hope you're not saying that the black women who did get raped during slavery deserved it.
I did not mean exposing - as in body parts  ;)
I meant being in the same place at the same time. ::)

How else was I supposed to take that word, "Exposing"?
In the context of my post.  ???
Remember, Allen T made mention that black women are too ugly to be raped by white men which means, in his mind that the woman would have to put herself out there for a white man to take advantage of. I'm sorry I took your use of the word "expose" wrong. It seemed to be the nature of the thread.

Although,.....oh nevermind
Its never stopped you before, Allen... why pause now?

I am starting to like you :)