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Offline Mizrahi 4 LIFE

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the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« on: June 26, 2011, 10:08:37 PM »
this is not my opinion but what Hashem says.

The Amalekites - ancient nation who attacked us after we (Jews) received the Holy Torah. They were the Romans, Greeks, Haman. Today we don't really know who they are today but most Rabbis would say the Nazis, Russians, and other Europeans.

The Erev Rav - the Egyptians who were converted by Moses. they are the downfall of the Jews since the Golden Calf. Today they are mostly likely the Liberal Jews.

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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2011, 10:14:58 PM »
this is not my opinion but what Hashem says.

The Amalekites - ancient nation who attacked us after we (Jews) received the Holy Torah. They were the Romans, Greeks, Haman. Today we don't really know who they are today but most Rabbis would say the Nazis, Russians, and other Europeans.

The Erev Rav - the Egyptians who were converted by Moses. they are the downfall of the Jews since the Golden Calf. Today they are mostly likely the Liberal Jews.


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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2011, 10:24:41 PM »
I think you have confused Amalek with Edom...

Edom is the offspring Essau, the brother of our father Yaakov/Jacob...

Edom and Ishmael have combined and they are both our enemies beside Amalek. We don't know exactly who the Amalekites are because they have combined with some of the other Jewish enemies.

I believe Amalek is involved in every nation who attempts to kill the Jews. This is why we know that Haman and Hitler were both Amalekites.

But the Edomites and the Ishmaelites pose a threat to the Jewish nation.
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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2011, 10:28:12 PM »
I think you have confused Amalek with Edom...

Edom is the offspring Essau, the brother of our father Yaakov/Jacob...

Edom and Ishmael have combined and they are both our enemies beside Amalek. We don't know exactly who the Amalekites are because they have combined with some of the other Jewish enemies.

I believe Amalek is involved in every nation who attempts to kill the Jews. This is why we know that Haman and Hitler were both Amalekites.

But the Edomites and the Ishmaelites pose a threat to the Jewish nation.


Edom and Ishmael are just 2 nations, of the 70 nations. not all of Europe is Edom and not all Arabs are Ismael. the non-Muslim Arabs are deffenitley not Ishmael.

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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2011, 12:28:30 AM »
this is not my opinion but what Hashem says.

The Amalekites - ancient nation who attacked us after we (Jews) received the Holy Torah. They were the Romans, Greeks, Haman. Today we don't really know who they are today but most Rabbis would say the Nazis, Russians, and other Europeans.

The Erev Rav - the Egyptians who were converted by Moses. they are the downfall of the Jews since the Golden Calf. Today they are mostly likely the Liberal Jews.



Where did you get it from that Romans and Greeks were Amalek?  That's major news to me.   (Untrue news).

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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2011, 12:48:30 AM »
Where did you get it from that Romans and Greeks were Amalek?  That's major news to me.   (Untrue news).

ask any Rabbi Rome for sure was Greeks might have been

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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2011, 01:02:11 AM »
ask any Rabbi Rome for sure was Greeks might have been

You are confusing Edom with Amalek.   Different things.  Rome was not amalek.

Neither are the Russians.  Many modern day rabbis DO identify the Germans as Amalek.

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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2011, 01:10:24 AM »
You are confusing Edom with Amalek.   Different things.  Rome was not amalek.

Neither are the Russians.  Many modern day rabbis DO identify the Germans as Amalek.

I learned from many Rabbis that Rome was, and the Russians are too. not all of the Russia but amongst those who murdered the Jews.

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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2011, 01:39:33 AM »
I learned from many Rabbis that Rome was, and the Russians are too. not all of the Russia but amongst those who murdered the Jews.

Either these rabbis are wrong, or you are not remembering correctly.   In the classical Jewish sources, Rome is associated with Edom - a descendant of Esav.   NOT amalek.   It's pretty universal, with the notable exception of Ibn Ezra who says the Romans have nothing to do with the ancient nations and cannot be identified as Edom.    I don't know if there are others who agree with him, but as far as I know there is not anyone who claims Rome is amalek.

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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2011, 01:57:41 AM »
Why do I get the feeling you are hunting around for the exact spot to drive in the wedge?

Well said cjd.  I am surprised that it is taking so long to ban 'Troll 4 life'
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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2011, 08:39:37 AM »
I would say the leaders of any movement to destroy Israel would be Rosh, Russia, and Iran...Persia.

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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2011, 08:59:24 AM »
Amalikites where Canaanites just an extra evil tribe   


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The Erev Rav - the Egyptians who were converted by Moses. they are the downfall of the Jews since the Golden Calf. Today they are mostly likely the Liberal Jews.
   This part i agree
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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2011, 09:34:43 AM »
What should be done to the enemies of the Jews is the very thing they want to do to us.  Doesn't matter if it is amakek, edom, or ishmael. Why are we splitting hairs?
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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2011, 10:34:38 AM »
this is not my opinion but what Hashem says.

The Amalekites - ancient nation who attacked us after we (Jews) received the Holy Torah. They were the Romans, Greeks, Haman. Today we don't really know who they are today but most Rabbis would say the Nazis, Russians, and other Europeans.

The Erev Rav - the Egyptians who were converted by Moses. they are the downfall of the Jews since the Golden Calf. Today they are mostly likely the Liberal Jews.



I'm happy to be of European descent but I don't hate Jews. Fail mr. Troll

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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2011, 01:25:18 PM »
I'm happy to be of European descent but I don't hate Jews. Fail mr. Troll

He has a hatred toward light skinned or white Jews and white Christians. I'm sure it's an inferiority complex of some sort.  Once, a while back he typed something G-d awful about the Ashkenazi Jews (white European Jews), who were murdered in the holocaust.  He despises white Jews.  He feels some sort of bond with Arab Muslims because of their darker skin color.    

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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2011, 02:17:31 PM »
He has a hatred toward light skinned or white Jews and white Christians. I'm sure it's an inferiority complex of some sort.  Once, a while back he typed something G-d awful about the Ashkenazi Jews (white European Jews), who were murdered in the holocaust.  He despises white Jews.  He feels some sort of bond with Arab Muslims because of their darker skin color.    

I really don't think he was even Jewish or a religious Jew.  I think he was just a leftist who wanted to infiltrate and infect the forum.  What he said about his 'Rabbi' sounded completely fake.   'His' rabbi told him that Russians, Europeans, Romans, and Greeks were the Amalek.  It all sounded so fake.

I think first he wanted to scare the gentiles away, then he wanted to wedge the Ashkenazis from the non-Ashkenazis.

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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2011, 02:17:46 PM »
If he feels that way about the Arab people he should do the right thing for them and convince them to leave Islam which is helping to keep their societies stagnant and barbaric rather than taking up for Islam.

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Re: the True enemies of the Jewish people.
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2011, 02:58:21 PM »
M4L is either Ralph, some Feces Now or similar troll, or one extremely insane Jew. This is the genius who made a thread claiming that Fakestinians are descended from Jews.