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WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« on: September 18, 2011, 01:54:40 PM »
This is absolutely terrible news!!!

I am very worried that this antisemitic piece of garbage may just ruin this election, either handing the White house to Obama again, or leading America down an antisemitic path to destruction.

We must make sure that this turd does not get anywhere near the white house. I am ashamed that the state which I live in, and I vote in, has given an appearance of legitimacy to the evil mr paul...



http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Ron-Paul-California-straw/2011/09/18/id/411372

Rep. Ron Paul easily won what might be called the Texas shootout in the California Republican Straw Poll Saturday, with the Lone Star state congressman finishing first among GOP presidential contenders with 44.9 percent of the vote and Texas Gov. Rick Perry coming in second at 29.3 percent.

Paul’s victory wasn’t particularly surprising, as overwhelming numbers of his fans turned out for the fall Republican convention in the Golden State, the Los Angeles Times reported.

“Raucous cheers and whistles and whoops and screams — one could be forgiven for wondering if they were for an elderly 11-term House politician or Justin Bieber — announced Paul's presence outside the doors. He then entered to another round of cheers and camera flashes,” the Times reported.

Conventioneers heard Rep. Michele Bachmann speak Friday night, and Paul and another GOP presidential candidate, Michigan Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, Saturday morning.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 01:57:15 PM »
Don't these two make a great couple... They both are America haters who blame 9/11 on America...














You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2011, 02:00:46 PM »
Don't these two make a great couple... They both are America haters who blame 9/11 on America...





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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2011, 02:07:47 PM »
Ron Paul has a long history of antisemitic and racist beliefs...



http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/211823/20110911/ron-paul-racism-anti-semitism-republican.htm

Ron Paul: A Long History of Racism and Anti-Semitism

Ron Paul, the once and future Republican presidential candidate and cult-hero among Libertarians, has a long and disturbing history of racialism and anti-Semitism.

During an appearance on Chris Matthews’ ‘Hardball’ TV program on MSNBC a few years ago, Paul defended earlier comments his son Rand made regarding the 1964 Civil Rights Act (which he asserted his father’s Libertarian views would have led him to oppose the law).

Ron Paul told Matthews he would have voted against the Act in Congress, and added "I wouldn't vote against getting rid of the Jim Crow laws."

He explained that didn’t necessarily oppose the intent of the Act (to eliminate institutionalized discrimination against blacks), but rather because it imposed on the personal rights of private business owners.

In 2004, during the 40th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act, Paul spoke against the law, stating that it violated the Constitution and curbed individual freedoms.

“The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society,” he said.

According to various reports, years ago, Paul was affiliated with newsletters that were obsessed with racial subjects.

Paul had published a plethora of newsletters over his political career with names including Ron Paul’s Freedom Report, Ron Paul Political Report, The Ron Paul Survival Report, among many others.

In June 1992, in the wake of the ‘Rodney King riots’ in Los Angeles that killed dozens and caused $1-billion of property damage, the Ron Paul Political Report wrote: “Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began,”

The editorial suggested that the looting and rioting was an inevitable consequence of the federal government providing blacks with “civil rights quotas, mandated hiring preferences, set-asides for government contracts, gerrymandered voting districts, black bureaucracies, black mayors, black curricula in schools, black TV shows, black TV anchors, hate crime laws, and public humiliation for anyone who dares question the black agenda.”

Paul’s screed also attacked the media for espousing the belief that “America’s number one need is an unlimited white checking account for underclass blacks.”

A few years before, in December 1989, Paul’s Investment Letter spelled out a doomsday scenario for the future, warning that “racial violence will fill our cities” because “mostly black welfare recipients will feel justified in stealing from mostly white ‘haves.’”

Two months later, another Paul newsletter predicted “The Coming Race War.”

In the following year an article advised readers: “If you live in a major city, and can leave, do so. If not, but you can have a rural retreat, for investment and refuge, buy it.”

In June 1991, following incidents of racial clashes in Washington, DC, a Paul newsletter featured an article titled: “Animals Take Over the D.C. Zoo.”

“This is only the first skirmish in the race war of the 1990s,” the newsletter gloomily warned.

In October 1992, in a segment on urban crime, Paul’s newsletter declared: “I’ve urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self-defense. For the animals are coming.”

Following a basketball game in Chicago in which the Bulls won the NBA championship in 1992, Paul’s publication sneered that: “blacks poured into the streets of Chicago in celebration. How to celebrate? How else? They broke the windows of stores to loot.”

The newsletter also assailed white liberals for wanting “to keep white America from taking action against black crime and welfare. Jury verdicts, basketball games, and even music are enough to set off black rage, it seems.”

Another newsletter claimed that “opinion polls consistently show only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions,” and “if you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”

Paul’s publication also attacked the distinguished black congresswoman for Texas Barbara Jordan as “the archetypical half-educated victimologist” whose “race and sex protect her from criticism.”

Another newsletter declared: "The criminals who terrorize our cities -- in riots and on every non-riot day -- are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to 'fight the power,' to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible."

In 1991, a Paul-controlled newsletter praised ex-Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke.

“Duke lost the [Senate] election [in Louisiana], but he scared the blazes out of the Establishment,” it stated.

Paul also has expressed hostility toward the Jews.

According to the Philadelphia Jewish Voice, Paul refused to return a campaign contribution in 2008 from white supremacist and notorious anti-Semite Don Black.

Paul has reportedly called Israel “evil” and has alleged that the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, might have blown up the World Trade Center in 1993.
In 1987, an edition of Paul's Investment Letter described Israel as "an aggressive, national socialist state."

However, it isn’t clear if Paul himself wrote any of these inflammatory segments (the newsletters apparently lacked by-lines). Paul himself has reportedly said many of these passages were taken out of context.

When confronted by CNN, Paul insisted that he was not the author of the racialist pieces and that he had "no idea" who did.

Moreover, he denied having any racial bias.

"When you bring this question up, you're really saying, 'You're a racist' or 'Are you a racist?' And the answer is, 'No, I'm not a racist,'" he said.

He added that he repudiated “everything that is written along those lines.”

Paul also told CNN: "People [who] know me, nobody is going to believe this. That's just not my language. It's not my life. Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Gandhi, they're [my] heroes."

Paul has also claimed that he sympathizes with blacks who have been victimized by draconian drug laws. He once told a reporter: "I am the anti-racist because I am the only candidate -- Republican or Democrat -- who would protect the [minorities] against these vicious drug laws. Libertarians are incapable of being a racist, because racism is a collectivist idea."

However, David Gergen, a CNN senior political analyst, didn’t buy Paul’s denials.

"These stories may be very old in Ron Paul's life, but they're very new to the American public and they deserve to be totally ventilated," he said "I must say I don't think there's an excuse in politics to have something go out under your name and say, 'Oh by the way, I didn't write that.'"

Paul remains a unique and singular character in U.S. politics. His adherence to libertarian values, and opposition to foreign military intervention and drug laws have won him the admiration and support among many liberals, especially among the youth.

His espousal of limited government and attacks on certain government agencies, including the Federal Reserve, has gained him support among some conservatives.

However, the mainstream Republican Party largely rejects Paul and regards him as a crackpot.

Without broad support, Paul is unlikely to ever gain enough clout to win the Presidency.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 02:15:38 PM »
HE ALWAYS WINS THE STRAW POLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are all nonsense and meaningless.  The Paul-bots always do this.... everytime there is a 'straw' poll, they mobilize and hugely over-represent themselves with these worthless internet controlled polls.

Every-time there is a True poll administered by random methods... phone calls, etc.  Paul is never a serious contender.




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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 02:19:58 PM »
HE ALWAYS WINS THE STRAW POLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are all nonsense and meaningless.  The Paul-bots always do this.... everytime there is a 'straw' poll, they mobilize and hugely over-represent themselves with these worthless internet controlled polls.

Every-time there is a True poll administered by random methods... phone calls, etc.  Paul is never a serious contender.





I suppose you are correct. Straw Polls are inconsequential in the long run. But the 'PR' effect may be detrimental. I don't know anyone here in CA who openly supports Paul {Baruch Hashem}...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 02:21:39 PM »
HE ALWAYS WINS THE STRAW POLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are all nonsense and meaningless.  The Paul-bots always do this.... everytime there is a 'straw' poll, they mobilize and hugely over-represent themselves with these worthless internet controlled polls.

Every-time there is a True poll administered by random methods... phone calls, etc.  Paul is never a serious contender.





It's like I think the Obamabots tend to take over certain polls like Gallup and inflate his ratings. 
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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2011, 02:36:25 PM »
A little more about straw polls.  Also, make no mistake,  the left LOVES ron paul.  They always have. 

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/482436/public-opinion/258782/Nonscientific-polling
Nonscientific polling
Straw polls and other nonscientific surveys are based on indiscriminate collections of people’s opinions, while responsible surveys are based on scientific methods of sampling, data collection, and analysis. Yet, because they are so easy to obtain, data derived from nonscientific methods are often confused with responsible survey results. At best, they reflect only the views of those who choose to respond. But they are also used as tools of “spin” by those who wish to put forth a particular slant on popular opinion. Referred to as “voodoo polls” by some polling experts, they lack the statistical significance achieved through proven sampling methods, and they have grown increasingly prevalent—especially on Web sites. Given the number of Internet opinion polls that are nonscientific, communications theorist James Beniger observed that they are just as unrepresentative as call-in polls (frequently sponsored by television and radio stations), pseudo-ballots (published in many magazines and newspapers), straw polls, and the “hands up” of the studio audience. None of these approaches can properly measure or represent public opinion.
The limitations of self-selecting samples should be obvious, because the spread of views expressed will represent only those people who saw or heard the invitation to respond to the poll. Yet such polling practices remain popular. They are frequently the tools of radio and television programs and newspapers that wish to encourage audience participation. But instead of recognizing their entertainment value (many will agree that these polls ought to be fun) and treating them accordingly, reporters too often present the results as serious and objective measures of public opinion.
This encourages interested political parties, campaign managers, or pressure groups to manipulate the outcomes to their advantage. They may attempt to skew the results or administer their own competing straw polls with the goal of contradicting the outcomes of properly conducted representative surveys. To take full advantage of this manipulation, the straw poll sponsor often issues press releases calling attention to the results. To further lend the poll an appearance of credibility, its sponsor might also describe it as having been published by a leading newspaper or a reputable news organization, even if it appeared only in a paid advertisement.
Interest groups such as the American Association for Public Opinion Research (AAPOR), the European Society for Opinion Marketing and Research, and the World Association for Public Opinion Research serve a watchdog role regarding opinion polling. To assist reporters as well as the general public in their understanding of poll results, AAPOR published a list of guidelines for determining the credibility of online polls. A reliable poll should indicate, for example, whether its results were based on sampling procedures that gave each member of a population a fair chance of being selected and whether each respondent was limited to one and only one chance of participating in the poll; it should also state the response rate. According to AAPOR, outcomes that fail to meet criteria such as these should not be included in news reports.
In fact, anyone judging the overall reliability of a survey will scrutinize a number of factors. These include the exact wording of the questions used, the degree to which particular results are based on the whole sample or on small parts of it, the method of interviewing (whether by telephone, mail, or Internet survey or face-to-face), the dates over which the interviewing was conducted (intervening events frequently make people change their opinions), and the identity of the sponsor as well as the reputation of the organization conducting the poll. One signal that the poll may have been conducted by less-experienced researchers is the reporting of findings in decimal points, a practice that indicates questionable accuracy. A poll of at least 10,000 people would be required before statistically reliable interpretations could be carried to the first decimal point. The visual presentation of the results should also be checked. Frequently, graphics can be designed to mislead or confuse the reader or viewer into thinking that the responses to the poll differed from the raw figures the poll actually indicated.

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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2011, 06:00:49 PM »
This pathetic loser has no chance. Why are you acting like he has power and a chance at winning?

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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2011, 06:17:08 PM »
This pathetic loser has no chance. Why are you acting like he has power and a chance at winning?

I am not acting like he has power... But the media {SFGate/SF Chronicle} and others are publicizing this a lot. I have seen stories on several sites which cover this. Now that I think about it, concerning the validity of straw polls, it is incorrect to put much value on straw polls.

I know most JTF members are aware of the danger of Paul...  But we must talk about it with others too in order to prevent any drift toward his somewhat solid economic conservative message.


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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2011, 07:20:17 PM »
The paultards are such a joke.   All a bunch of nonthinking zombies.

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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2011, 05:45:39 AM »
This is absolutely terrible news!!!

I am very worried that this antisemitic piece of garbage may just ruin this election, either handing the White house to Obama again, or leading America down an antisemitic path to destruction.

We must make sure that this turd does not get anywhere near the white house. I am ashamed that the state which I live in, and I vote in, has given an appearance of legitimacy to the evil mr paul...



http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Ron-Paul-California-straw/2011/09/18/id/411372

Rep. Ron Paul easily won what might be called the Texas shootout in the California Republican Straw Poll Saturday, with the Lone Star state congressman finishing first among GOP presidential contenders with 44.9 percent of the vote and Texas Gov. Rick Perry coming in second at 29.3 percent.

Paul’s victory wasn’t particularly surprising, as overwhelming numbers of his fans turned out for the fall Republican convention in the Golden State, the Los Angeles Times reported.

“Raucous cheers and whistles and whoops and screams — one could be forgiven for wondering if they were for an elderly 11-term House politician or Justin Bieber — announced Paul's presence outside the doors. He then entered to another round of cheers and camera flashes,” the Times reported.

Conventioneers heard Rep. Michele Bachmann speak Friday night, and Paul and another GOP presidential candidate, Michigan Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, Saturday morning.

Ron Paul is more or less like wallpaper for primary politics.... I don't care for him but he represents a segment of the people that thinks as he does... I don't believe that he would even think of a independent run for the general elections so in a way he really does little harm in the big picture... At the end of the day most of his supporters either don't vote at all or shift their support to the party choice... Something that I find far more disturbing is the political bend out on the West Coast... Here in New York it's not much better however now and then we do get a reprise such as in the Weiner / Turner election last week.
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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 04:42:40 PM »
Ron Paul is a libertarian running under the republican party! I think the fact that he has a libertarian agenda is a great thing but could someone show me evidence of him being anti Israel. I wouldn't be too worried about him because i don't think he will harm Israel.

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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2011, 05:46:17 PM »
Will the selections/elections of the candidates and presidents change the course of the history. Last time everything was attempted but to no avail. This time let us be silent and feel the hands of Hashem operating the things.
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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 06:54:52 PM »
Ron Paul is a libertarian running under the republican party! I think the fact that he has a libertarian agenda is a great thing but could someone show me evidence of him being anti Israel. I wouldn't be too worried about him because i don't think he will harm Israel.


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You must be joking... Look at those who support him... look at what he said about israel doing 911...

He doesnt care if iran has nukes...

Would he support the us ally Israel? No... His position is to dump all american allies.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: WARNING !!! RON PAUL WON CALIFORNIA STRAW POLL!!!
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2011, 06:59:15 PM »
He has said..... 'Whats wrong with Iran getting nukes?'

That is HIS opinion.... He is either braindead or wants the US/Israel to get nuked.  Either way, its a horribly disturbing position.

At any rate, he is irrelovant.