Pat Condell: The great Palestinian lie

[Meerkat]

[Manch]

 

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Hey whaddaya know, this guy finally came to his senses.  I am pleasantly surprised.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Hey whaddaya know, this guy finally came to his senses.  I am pleasantly surprised.

Or it could be WN taqqiyah. It will take a lot more than one video to change my mind.

[Lisa]

Pad Condell a WN?  I don't think so. 

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

All along, prior to this video he had been saying that Israel needs to negotiate with the Fakestinians. For him to want European countries to stand up to Islam but not Israel says something, does it not?

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

All along, prior to this video he had been saying that Israel needs to negotiate with the Fakestinians. For him to want European countries to stand up to Islam but not Israel says something, does it not?

It certainly was saying something but if you listen to this whole video, in part of it he seems to ackowledge what a moron he was.  He refers to his older (wingnut) views and says he changed his mind because the fatcs are against that view.  Its about time.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

It certainly was saying something but if you listen to this whole video, in part of it he seems to ackowledge what a moron he was.  He refers to his older (wingnut) views and says he changed his mind because the fatcs are against that view.  Its about time.

He may be telling the truth but let's see where he goes besides this just one video. It takes a lot to convince me that anti-Semites have repented.

[USAReturn2GodNow1776]

What if he was a pro-Jewish WN?

[Lisa]

What if he was a pro-Jewish WN?

That's an oxymoron if there ever was one. 

[USAReturn2GodNow1776]

That's an oxymoron if there ever was one. 

Hopefully it won't always be.  I mean, at one time, pro-Jewish Christian was too.  But look now!

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

He may be telling the truth but let's see where he goes besides this just one video. It takes a lot to convince me that anti-Semites have repented.

Fair enough.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Hopefully it won't always be.  I mean, at one time, pro-Jewish Christian was too.  But look now!

Why is that hopefully?

Their beliefs have not an ounce of jewishness in them.  There is absolutely nothing Jewish about supporting WN agenda.  So why would we want jewish WN to cease being an oxymoron?   That's like hoping Jews and (lehavdil) nazis can be friends one day.

[USAReturn2GodNow1776]

Why is that hopefully? Their beliefs have not an ounce of jewishness in them.

I honestly believe that there is nothing implicit in the definition of white nationalism that is anti-Jewish (seeking to work against or harm Judaism or the Jewish people).  I agree that being a white nationalist would be necessarily unjewish (going against the teachings of Judaism) but not necessarily anti-Jewish.  Same with eating non-Kosher foods.   The majority of WNs today are anti-Jewish, and that is a shame.  

There is absolutely nothing Jewish about supporting WN agenda.

This I would disagree with.  I think it would be entirely possible to support a white nationalist agenda for gentiles and to still be Jewish in the same way that it would be entirely possible to support an agenda for gentiles to celebrate U.S. Independence Day.  For a Jew to actually be a WN or to celebrate U.S. Independence Day would be bad because it would be unjewish.

That's like hoping Jews and (lehavdil) nazis can be friends one day.

Well, not quite because Nazism was a socialist and totalitarian ideology.  Socialism and totalitarianism are evil.  But Nationalism is not necessarily evil.  It can be good.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

WN believes in a superiority of the so called "white race"
Judaism does not have special definitions or distinctions based on skin color.  Skin color is an irrelevance.  Totally superficial nonsense.

I also do not see anything wrong with a Jewish person celebrating independence day.  There is nothing unJewish about it. 

[USAReturn2GodNow1776]

WN believes in a superiority of the so called "white race"

White Nationalists believe in the superiority of the "white race," but a belief in the superiority of the "white race" is not implicit in the definition of white nationalism.  So white nationalists could cease to believe in the superiority of the "white race" and continue to be white nationalists (which is what I am hoping for of course).

Judaism does not have special definitions or distinctions based on skin color.

And that is totally fine.  I respect that.

Skin color is an irrelevance.  Totally superficial nonsense.

It is superficial.  But is is not wrong to have preferences concerning the superficial.

I also do not see anything wrong with a Jewish person celebrating independence day.  There is nothing unJewish about it.

In one of the past Ask JTF's, Chaim said that Jews should not celebrate it but that it is a wonderful holiday for gentiles.  Maybe that was just his opinion though.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Well I don't see what's wrong with it because Jews who live in america benefit from the freedoms and liberties brought about by the war of independence, and I also like to celebrate anything that is against the british bastards.