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Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« on: June 17, 2007, 02:09:08 AM »
Sick and tired of a certain poster...

 >:(...and no, it isn't Tonycali (who at least is funny).

     I am talking about, once more, our good friend, and Chaim's number-one fan, Hidden Author. Yet again we have an instigating post of his this week under the facade of "cynicism". Chaim was absolutely right when he pointed out how bogus HA's skepticism is--he never in the least seems to be cynical when it comes to Nazi accusations against Israel and JTF or when it comes to self-hating leftist Jew critiques of us, no matter how patently bogus.

     Let's see the gem he's posted this week:

Quote from: Hidden Author
Let me explain my cynicism. I oppose Islam and think it is incredible that so many non-Muslims would go to such great lengths to whitewash it. So I would like to support Israel. Unfortunately it seems that Israel does not always support America.

The U.S.S. Liberty incident seems to be one such case. I would like to believe it was an accident but apparently the survivors have reason to believe it was deliberate. In a letter to skeptic Maury Bennett, U.S.S. Liberty survivor John Gidusko explained why he believed that the Israeli attack was deliberate:

(Here is an excerpt of Gidusko’s letter.)

Quote from: Gidusko
1) You know what the ship looked like, Maury! A ten-year
old boy could have identified it. Israel couldn't?

2) The MTB's claim the attack stopped after the torpedo
hit and they identified the ship. A lie. They didn't.

3) They approached the ship to within 50 feet... and were
shooting at the sailors putting out fires and helping one
another for a full 40 minutes after the torpedo hit, and

4) Shooting up the life rafts that were put in the water.

5) Many have read the stuff at NSA of the ATTACKING planes
which included the sighting of the American flag. NSA
did NOT release those documents, Maury. Only the copters
AFTER the attack.

6) Up until now the Israeli story was that the attacking
pilots claimed there was no flag on the ship, the MTBs
said there was none... and now with the NSA transcript,
we see the copter SAW the American flag right away.
Who's lying?

7) Worst of all -- the U.S. government cover-up of the
incident. Our government turned its back on the survivors,
and you too Maury! Most of the survivors do not wish to
accept this lying down.

Then there is the Lavon Affair. If you do not know what the Affair was about, ask me and I will comment about it for next week's JTF. Thanks for answering my questions!

Hidden Author
     Jimmy, Yacov, Jeffguy, there's more than enough evidence that he is a troll to convict. He sets himself up as an authority figure ("ask me about the Lavon Affair"), continuously belittles Chaim and the organization in general, demonstrates an obvious axe to grind (against Israel and JTF), attempts to divide and conquer (by trying, as in this case, to pit Americans and Israelis/Jews against each other), and at times resorts to flat-out insults and obscenities (when he mentioned performing fellatio on Chaim). (Note: I don't think Chaim was aware of that little beauty at all.)

     He is playing a game with us, trying to work the system (and succeeding thus far). I know you all think the same of Tonycali, and perhaps you are right, but so far Tonycali isn't insulting us or spreading Nazi propaganda.

Chaimfan

     PS: My guess, from his general topics and style of writing, is that HA is NOT a self-hating Jew, but either a white supremacist anti-Semite of the Ron Paul ilk or a Muslim. The Liberty "incident" is a favorite among white Nazi propagandists. It is very seldom used by self-hating Jewish Nazis.

« Last Edit: June 17, 2007, 10:46:40 AM by Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim »

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2007, 02:13:10 AM »
Ron Paul ilk is my guess. How disgusting. I give it he'll have one more day here, and say something so Nazi like (show his true colors) that he'll be banned for good.
I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking StørmFrønt. And I think he showed his true colors with his first post.

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2007, 02:16:42 AM »
He did start posting at around the same time as Din Rodent and FruitTyper, come to think of it.

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2007, 02:26:16 AM »
LOL, I didn't time my watch to them. I don't necessarily think he IS one of them--he could be a buddy of theirs from SF or whatever other degenerate forum homosexual Nazis frequent.

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2007, 02:50:26 AM »
Just reading the stuff HIDDENAUTHOR writes is laden with Nazi type propaganda. I do think he is a Nazi. But I do suggest this, let him ride for a little bit more. Anymore of his lies axe him.

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2007, 04:38:45 AM »
Just reading the stuff HIDDENAUTHOR writes is laden with Nazi type propaganda. I do think he is a Nazi. But I do suggest this, let him ride for a little bit more. Anymore of his lies axe him.

Its a waste of time to 'ask' him anything.   ;)

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2007, 07:43:24 AM »
He might be an anti-Semite or a conspiracy theory nutcase, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a StørmFrønt white nationalist Nazi.  White nationalists, at least the ones I've met never talk about Islam and how evil it is, because they insanely direct all their anger out at Jews.  It doesn't seem like they would ally themselves with Jews on ANY issue, even if it endangers their very survival.  I put a post on StørmFrønt once about how evil Islam is, and it wasn't even allowed to be put on the forum.  People believe all sorts of conspiracy theories, I even know a Jewish guy who believes in the 9/11 conspiracy theory, which is a favorite of anti-Semites. 
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2007, 10:30:33 AM »
Another Din Rodef to deal with.
Doesn't "Rodef" mean a pursuer of Jewish life, why would we have allowed a single post from someone with that name?

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2007, 10:40:42 AM »
Get rid of him. He just distracts us from more important issues. There are plenty of Muslims and nazis on youtube and we don't need them here.
I am urinating on a Koran.

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2007, 11:06:11 AM »
I'd say not at the moment, we have to tolerate people disagreeing with us.

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2007, 11:08:37 AM »
Not sure so not voting at this time
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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2007, 11:12:36 AM »
I'd say not at the moment, we have to tolerate people disagreeing with us.

Agreed

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2007, 11:18:51 AM »
Why don't we all PM him and ask him what his problem is?

After all, he seems to have made up his mind about Israel, so why even bother posting here, right?  I think I'll PM him.

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2007, 11:35:45 AM »
OK folks, I just PM'd Hidden Author.  Here's what I wrote:

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Dear Hidden Author,

Regarding your most recent question to Chaim, in what way are you a "cynic?"  You certainly don't sound that way when it comes to Israel.  In fact, it seems like you already have your mind made up about Israel and JTF, so why do you even bother posting here?

No one is stopping you from supporting goat fornicators and pick fellators over a civilized (although not perfect) Western style democracy.  So if you really want to side with people who danced in the streets the day America was attacked, go ahead.

Lisa

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2007, 11:57:19 AM »
You know where I stand on him, but I never vote in my own polls. (Well, it isn't really my poll, but it is my thread.)

HA very rarely discusses Islam, actually. When he does, it's almost always to provide some cover for another gem he is coming up with. Rodef actually did appear to condemn Islam from time to time too as I recall.

I still say this turd is a white nationalist, or at the very least an anti-Semitic "truther".


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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2007, 12:17:49 PM »
"...a white nationalist, or at the very least an anti-Semitic "truther..."

Maybe even a "Jew", or "pro-semitic truther"!

Rest assured, when a jerkoff poster "demands" an answer to the "Liberty incident", they are a StørmFrønt Pro-Nazi member.

Perhaps there are posters here with no knowledge whatsoever of the "Liberty incident", and somehow believe that those in the 9/11 Truth Movement today are fanatically demanding an explanation of the events of June 1967 from "Jew"!

p.s.--Please answer the following question:

If the families of the victims of 9/11, as official members of the U.S. 9/11 Commision, are convinced that they remain deceived by their own government, and are convinced that their most serious demands for answers as to the truth of what happened to their loved ones and our country have been crassly disregarded, then what is it that makes you convinced that you are in possession of the complete unadulterated truth and that any documentable facts and figures to the contrary make absolutely no difference to your preconceived irrational opinions?

I'm sure my question will be met with personal attacks and more name calling, because those suffering with cognitive disassociative disorder here on this forum would prefer to mask their syndrome with an "in your face" phony patriotism.

"Once your mind is already made up, why bother with any facts?"

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2007, 01:44:38 PM »
Another Din Rodef to deal with.
Doesn't "Rodef" mean a pursuer of Jewish life, why would we have allowed a single post from someone with that name?
Yes it does. But "Din Rodef" means "law of the persuer," so the name was ambigious, until we later realized that it was referring to us.

I'd say not at the moment, we have to tolerate people disagreeing with us.
Yes, but let's say a new user came on the forum and said that about Israel. Would we award him the same toleration, or would we ban him as a SF infiltrator?

We would allow Chaim to take him on and all the challenges he throws at him.

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2007, 04:03:40 PM »
If he is banned we should also ban idiots who get off making racist comments.
The city isn't what it used to be. It all happened so fast. Everything went to crap. It's like... everyone's sense of morals just disappeared. Bad economy made things worse. Jobs started drying up, then the stores had to shut down. Then a black man was elected president. He was supposed to change things. He didn't. More and more people turned to crime and violence... The town becomes gripped with fear. Dark times, dark times... I am the hero this town needs. I am... The Coon!!!

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2007, 04:08:01 PM »
OK folks, I just PM'd Hidden Author.  Here's what I wrote:

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Dear Hidden Author,

Regarding your most recent question to Chaim, in what way are you a "cynic?"  You certainly don't sound that way when it comes to Israel.  In fact, it seems like you already have your mind made up about Israel and JTF, so why do you even bother posting here?

No one is stopping you from supporting goat fornicators and pick fellators over a civilized (although not perfect) Western style democracy.  So if you really want to side with people who danced in the streets the day America was attacked, go ahead.

Lisa

Here's the reply I sent to Lisa.

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It isn't just Nazis who talk about the U.S.S. Liberty. The survivors also talk about it--are they Nazis too? Let me tell you how I operate. When talking to Zionists, I'll confront them with anti-Zionist arguments to see if they can refute such arguments. When talking to anti-Zionists, I'll confront them with Zionist arguments to see if they can refute such arguments. That way I can weigh the validity of each side's arguments instead of blindly accepting propaganda. So if I seem like an anti-Zionist, then it's because I'm on a Zionist forum. In fact, I think I may have made a mistake in calling myself "Hidden Author"; perhaps I should have called myself "Devil's Advocate"!

P.S. If any of you wish to interpret my message as a "confession" that I am a "Satanist", then think again. "Devil's Advocate" is "a person who advocates an opposing or unpopular cause for the sake of argument or to expose it to a thorough examination" as defined by http://dictionary.reference.com.

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2007, 04:44:05 PM »
Sick and tired of a certain poster...

Hello ChaimFan, and good day to you.

Unfortunately your own personal dislike of a particular poster isn't grounds for banishment from this forum, and I point you to our forum rules as a guideline for what is appropriate here.   Please click this link http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=441.0 and review our guidelines (pay particular attention to rules #3 and #4).   If you care to cite specific examples of Hidden Author breaking any of our rules, feel free to cite them.  I personally have seen none.

With kindest regards until Shiloh comes,
Christopher
Psalm 53:2 "The fool hath said in his heart, 'There is no G-D.'"

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2007, 11:33:14 PM »
Christopher, I will stop talking about this but I think the nature of HA's posts is extremely obvious.

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2007, 10:56:53 AM »
Yes, and I started it.

After hearing Chaim's show and after all the chaos that was started by this poster, I have told the moderators and administrators that he should be banned. You are all 100% correct.

I'm trying to be diplomatic about this out of my deep respect for the amazing moderators and administrators we have on this forum.
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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2007, 12:32:13 PM »
Thank you jeffguy for banning him. I thought he would die down a bit, but after the last Ask JTF where he says Israel intentionally bombed the USS Liberty during the Six day war was outrageous. That is one of the oldest Nazi propaganda lies against little Israel. So I think he stepped over the line that time.

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2007, 01:12:43 PM »
"...he says Israel intentionally bombed the USS Liberty during the Six day war..."

It very well could be true.

Whom among us actually knows everything which took place during that war?

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Re: Should Hidden Author Be Banned?
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2007, 01:31:43 PM »
Is this a joke?