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Please take a few minutes to "like", favorite and comment. These Hebrew videos have vital messages for Israeli Jewry.

1. Rabbi Meir Kahane would have supported the freedom-fighters of Tag Mechir. This is our answer to Yehudah Kroizer who claimed that Rabbi Kahane would have opposed Tag Mechir because we supposedly should depend upon the Israeli army and police for protection against the Arab Nazi terrorist mass murderers.




2. Rabbi Meir Kahane zt"l hy"d went to prison for planting bombs. As further proof that Rabbi Kahane supported underground Jewish freedom-fighting, the Rabbi himself was convicted of bombing the Soviet Nazi compound in Glen Cove, Long Island and went to prison.




3. Arab League poll: 70% of Arab youth want to leave the Middle East. This once again shows that most Arabs would willingly leave the Land of Israel if given the opportunity. Only Hayamin Haamiti (JTF in Israel) offers a realistic plan to get the Arabs to permanently emigrate.




4. 70% of Arabs want to leave but Bibi Netanyahu encourages them to stay. Bibi, Avigdor Lieberman, the Likud and the rest of the evil current government have done everything possible to greatly improve the economic condition of the Arabs, thereby making them want to stay. Before Bibi took office, thousands were leaving every month. Bibi ended that positive trend.




5. Hayamin Haamiti are not extremists. Our critics are the extremists. Those who want tiny Israel to live within 6 mile wide borders with millions of hostile Arab Nazis are the extremists. National suicide is extremism. National survival is not.


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Re: 5 new videos on HaRav Kahane, Tag Mechir, Arab emigration, Hayamin Haamiti
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 05:00:26 AM »
Dear Chaim,
First I want to stress that I am not saying you have a wrong interpretation of Rabbi Kahane.
But to judge the other side for the benefit of the doubt, you could argue that the governments we are facing today, both in the USA and in Israel are worse than the governments of 20 or 30 years ago and therefore there should be a change of tactics.
Always remember that sometimes scholars can have a legitimate disagreement about halacha, without personally attacking their opponents. This happens quite frequently in the Talmud.

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Re: 5 new videos on HaRav Kahane, Tag Mechir, Arab emigration, Hayamin Haamiti
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 01:31:50 PM »
As one example, to prove that the Government of Israel has gotten much worse after the days of Rabbi Kahane
see http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133081

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Re: 5 new videos on HaRav Kahane, Tag Mechir, Arab emigration, Hayamin Haamiti
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 05:24:06 PM »
Done.  Unfortunately, I dont understand anything much

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Re: 5 new videos on HaRav Kahane, Tag Mechir, Arab emigration, Hayamin Haamiti
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 05:51:45 AM »
Dear Chaim,
First I want to stress that I am not saying you have a wrong interpretation of Rabbi Kahane.
But to judge the other side for the benefit of the doubt, you could argue that the governments we are facing today, both in the USA and in Israel are worse than the governments of 20 or 30 years ago and therefore there should be a change of tactics.
Always remember that sometimes scholars can have a legitimate disagreement about halacha, without personally attacking their opponents. This happens quite frequently in the Talmud.

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To put lying words in the mouth of Rabbi Kahane when he can't respond is not a "legitimate disagreement about halacha".

To stab the freedom-fighters of Tag Mechir in the back is not a "legitimate disagreement about halacha".

To spread defeatism among the Jewish settlers of Judea and Samaria instead of encouraging mass resistance to any expulsion is not a "legitimate disagreement about halacha".

To preach trusting the army and police for protection against Arab terrorist mass murder is not a "legitimate disagreement about halacha".

To deliberately lie when he knows that Rabbi Kahane created the JDL which planted dozens of bombs against Soviet targets is not a "legitimate disagreement about halacha".

To deliberately lie when he knows that Rabbi Kahane himself went to prison after being convicted on bombing charges is not a "legitimate disagreement about halacha".

To deliberately lie when he knows that Rabbi Kahane formed the underground group "Terror Neged Terror" (Terror Against Terror) in Israel which did similar things to what Tag Mechir does is not a "legitimate disagreement about halacha".

If he does not have the courage to tell the truth, no problem. But no one is forcing him to lie and distort. If he doesn't have the guts to tell the truth, he should say nothing.

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Re: 5 new videos on HaRav Kahane, Tag Mechir, Arab emigration, Hayamin Haamiti
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 11:12:56 AM »

If he does not have the courage to tell the truth, no problem. But no one is forcing him to lie and distort. If he doesn't have the guts to tell the truth, he should say nothing.

 The response of Chaim might seem harsh to some, but this last line says it all and why it was/is needed to be said.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: 5 new videos on HaRav Kahane, Tag Mechir, Arab emigration, Hayamin Haamiti
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 08:30:00 PM »
Rabbi Kahane in his own words on this subject-
 (the whole video is great) the part where he says it is 6:48
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.