GAZA Christians plead for help

[mord]

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Jun. 18, 2007 13:18 | Updated Jun. 18, 2007 13:24
Gaza's Christians fear for their lives
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH
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Christians living in Gaza City on Monday appealed to the international community to protect them against increased attacks by Muslim extremists. Many Christians said they were prepared to leave the Gaza Strip as soon as the border crossings are reopened.

The appeal came following a series of attacks on a Christian school and church in Gaza City over the past few days.

Father Manuel Musalam, leader of the small Latin community in the Gaza Strip, said masked gunmen torched and looted the Rosary Sisters School and the Latin Church.

"The masked gunmen used rocket-propelled grenades to storm the main entrances of the school and church," he said. "Then they destroyed almost everything inside, including the Cross, the Holy Book, computers and other equipment."

Musalam expressed outrage over the burning of copies of the Bible, noting that the gunmen destroyed all the Crosses inside the church and school. "Those who did these awful things have no respect for Christian-Muslim relations," he said.

He estimated damages at more than $500,000. "Those who see the destruction will realize how bad this attack was," he said. "Christians have been living in peace and security with Muslims for many years, but those who attacked us are trying to sabotage this relationship."

He said Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas phoned him on Sunday night to express his strong condemnation for the attack. "President Abbas promised that he would do his utmost to prevent such attacks on Christians here," he said.

Fatah officials blamed Hamas militiamen for the attack on the church and school. However, Islam Shahwan, spokesman for Hamas's Executive Force in the Gaza Strip, denied responsibility.

He nevertheless admitted that a large group of Hamas militiamen had been near the area during the attack. "We have instructed all our men to withdraw from the area," he said. "We will punish anyone who targets churches and public institutions."Print Subscribe 
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[newman]

Sand ape christians are NOT real christians. They don't read or acknowledge the Hebrew bible (1st testament) so as not to offend moslem sand apes and they preach that jesus was a pallestinian arab!

[Masha]

I feel sorry for the Christians. One solution would be to send them to Egypt. Another - to exchange them for muslims. That is to say, for every Christian Arab refugee who is granted a political asylum in Israel, a muslim arab should be expelled.

[mord]

Sounds good to me

[Masha]

Sand ape christians are NOT real christians. They don't read or acknowledge the Hebrew bible (1st testament) so as not to offend moslem sand apes and they preach that jesus was a pallestinian arab!

They could be re-educated in special re-education camps. Differentiating between muslims and Christians could be a good PR for Israel. It will show that Israelis are not racists, they are against islam.

[mord]

Yes

[newman]

Yes

If christian arabs havn't worked out that they'd be 400 times better off living under jewish rule than moslem sand ape rule they must all have a screw loose!

[judeanoncapta]

These same Christian Arabs have been supporting Arab terrorism for atleast 80 years.

I do feel bad for them but hey, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

[DownwithIslam]

Those types of Christians don't seem legit to me. Besides the pastor said that "These people have no regard for Muslim-Christian relation." He was inferring that the Muslim religion is peaceful and these are just a few extremists. I am sure they could of left long ago.

[newman]

These same Christian Arabs have been supporting Arab terrorism for atleast 80 years.

I do feel bad for them but hey, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

Or to put it another way.....they've [censored] in their bed, let 'em lie in it!

[Masha]

These same Christian Arabs have been supporting Arab terrorism for atleast 80 years.

I do feel bad for them but hey, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

I do see what you and others say. However, here is my concern. If these Christian Arabs are not helped, they will be forcibly converted to islam (those of them who are not killed). I really don't like this prospect. In fact, it really scares me that on the big scale of things, islam speards and grown while Christianity retreats. I think that this trend should be checked, and the disappearance of Christians living among muslims should be stopped.

[newman]

These same Christian Arabs have been supporting Arab terrorism for atleast 80 years.

I do feel bad for them but hey, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

I do see what you and others say. However, here is my concern. If these Christian Arabs are not helped, they will be forcibly converted to islam (those of them who are not killed). I really don't like this prospect. In fact, it really scares me that on the big scale of things, islam speards and grown while Christianity retreats. I think that this trend should be checked, and the disappearance of Christians living among muslims should be stopped.

Good point

[TheCoon]

Sand ape christians are NOT real christians. They don't read or acknowledge the Hebrew bible (1st testament) so as not to offend moslem sand apes and they preach that jesus was a pallestinian arab!

Who the [deleted] are to say who's a Christian and who's not? When Christians are a tiny minority amongst savage muslims they either have to toe the line or be slaughtered. I'd love to see you be part of a tiny Jewish minority living with muslims and call all the muslims animals and savages. They'd kill you in a second. Chaim has made this point. A lot of Christian Arabs are anti-Israel B.C.E. the muslims will slaughter them if they aren't. In Lebanon we see the Christian Arabs are a large minority and their support for Israel is comparable to any white European nation.

The arab Christians you see who are anti-Israel are generally socialists like the whites in Europe who hate Israel. I know from viewing Lebanese websites, the Christians there who hated Israel literally were pro-communist or far-left socialist and didn't have any faith.

[mord]

Many Christian arabs are pro-Israel when they leave Beth lechem many speak  up against the moslems

[kahaneloyalist]

Sand ape christians are NOT real christians. They don't read or acknowledge the Hebrew bible (1st testament) so as not to offend moslem sand apes and they preach that jesus was a pallestinian arab!

Who the [deleted] are to say who's a Christian and who's not? When Christians are a tiny minority amongst savage muslims they either have to toe the line or be slaughtered. I'd love to see you be part of a tiny Jewish minority living with muslims and call all the muslims animals and savages. They'd kill you in a second. Chaim has made this point. A lot of Christian Arabs are anti-Israel B.C.E. the muslims will slaughter them if they aren't. In Lebanon we see the Christian Arabs are a large minority and their support for Israel is comparable to any white European nation.

The arab Christians you see who are anti-Israel are generally socialists like the whites in Europe who hate Israel. I know from viewing Lebanese websites, the Christians there who hated Israel literally were pro-communist or far-left socialist and didn't have any faith.

Now the Lebanes Christians want to be our friend, but for many years you wouldnt find more hardcore Jew haters then the Lebanese Christians. I say we shouldnt let in a single Arab Muslim or Christian, those who arent Muslims are still mostly Jew haters, and we bear them no obligation.

[newman]

Sand ape christians are NOT real christians. They don't read or acknowledge the Hebrew bible (1st testament) so as not to offend moslem sand apes and they preach that jesus was a pallestinian arab!

Who the [deleted] are to say who's a Christian and who's not? When Christians are a tiny minority amongst savage muslims they either have to toe the line or be slaughtered. I'd love to see you be part of a tiny Jewish minority living with muslims and call all the muslims animals and savages. They'd kill you in a second. Chaim has made this point. A lot of Christian Arabs are anti-Israel B.C.E. the muslims will slaughter them if they aren't. In Lebanon we see the Christian Arabs are a large minority and their support for Israel is comparable to any white European nation.

The arab Christians you see who are anti-Israel are generally socialists like the whites in Europe who hate Israel. I know from viewing Lebanese websites, the Christians there who hated Israel literally were pro-communist or far-left socialist and didn't have any faith.

Now the Lebanes Christians want to be our friend, but for many years you wouldnt find more hardcore Jew haters then the Lebanese Christians. I say we shouldnt let in a single Arab Muslim or Christian, those who arent Muslims are still mostly Jew haters, and we bear them no obligation.

good point too

[TheCoon]

Gee, I'm shocked kahaneloyalist wants to exclude Christians. 

[Dexter]

Why should we halp to christian thet want us dead?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

How many of these are real Christians?  Twenty bucks says 80% or more of them are Muslims in everything but name.

Are they being persecuted by Muslim Nazis? Absolutely. But most of these so-called believers were in the streets with yellow and green hair last summer just the same as they were, and (at least outwardly) call for the extermination of Jews just as loudly as they do.

[judeanoncapta]

Who the [deleted] are to say who's a Christian and who's not?

That is manifestly true. I always cringe when Chaim says “ these people aren’t real Christians, those people aren’t real Christians.” 

It is not the place of a Jew to determine who is and who is not a christian.

I would be pissed as hell if Christians walked around declaring who was and who was not a Jew. So I think Jews should just consider anyone who declares himself to be a Christian to be one.

When Christians are a tiny minority amongst savage muslims they either have to toe the line or be slaughtered. I'd love to see you be part of a tiny Jewish minority living with muslims and call all the muslims animals and savages. They'd kill you in a second. Chaim has made this point.

True, but they don’t have to be actively involved in terrorist attacks on Jews in order to save their own lives as PFLP and DFLP did. These two terrorist groups were majority Christian and run by only Christians.

A lot of Christian Arabs are anti-Israel B.C.E. the muslims will slaughter them if they aren't. In Lebanon we see the Christian Arabs are a large minority and their support for Israel is comparable to any white European nation.

Bullcrap. Have you even met a Christian Lebanese? Most of them are anti-Israel and consider pro-Israel Arab Christians as traitors and rightfully so.

The arab Christians you see who are anti-Israel are generally socialists like the whites in Europe who hate Israel. I know from viewing Lebanese websites, the Christians there who hated Israel literally were pro-communist or far-left socialist and didn't have any faith.

I don’t know what correlation you see between Christian faith and supporting Israel.

Pat Buchanan is a very faithful believing Christian and he hates Israel with a passion.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

an arab is an arab irregarlus of religion.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Pat Buchanan is a very faithful believing Christian and he hates Israel with a passion.

Bull-crud. He is a Catholic Nazi whose heart actually lies with Odinism. He admires Hitler and German Nazis and is about as Christian as Sheik Nasrallah.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I would be pissed as hell if Christians walked around declaring who was and who was not a Jew. So I think Jews should just consider anyone who declares himself to be a Christian to be one.

Judea, I know where you come from, but do you consider Neturei Karta members to be Jews? They certainly call themselves such. Do you consider Spielberg a Jew? Tzipi Livni? Tali Fahima?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Bullcrap. Have you even met a Christian Lebanese? Most of them are anti-Israel and consider pro-Israel Arab Christians as traitors and rightfully so.

I acknowledged such in my original post in this thread, but what do Lebanese Muslims-in-all-but-name have to do with American or other Christians?

[Dominater96]

I would be pissed as hell if Christians walked around declaring who was and who was not a Jew. So I think Jews should just consider anyone who declares himself to be a Christian to be one.

Judea, I know where you come from, but do you consider Neturei Karta members to be Jews? They certainly call themselves such. Do you consider Spielberg a Jew? Tzipi Livni? Tali Fahima?

Of course they are Jews. My Rabbi said that he believes that their ancestors were raped by evil men, and that they arent Jewish. but of course Spielberg, Livni, Etc. are Jews, but they are wayward.