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Off Topic: The Hunger Games
« on: March 18, 2012, 02:40:23 PM »
Has anyone read this book?  The movie is due out the 23rd of this month.

I just finished it yesterday.  It's basically about a dystopian future in North America where every year children between the ages of 12 to 16 are randomly picked to fight each other to the death.  These "games" are broadcast for the entire fictitious country of Panem (formerly North America) to see. 

It was just so sick and gross.  And I cant get it out of my head. 

Chaim has said in the past that a Jew is obligated to give up his or her life rather than kill an innocent human being.  (The other two conditions are idolatry and sexual immorality.)  In this book there were no Jews or Christians or people of any religion for that matter. 

For those of you who might have read it, what do you think? 

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Re: Off Topic: The Hunger Games
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2012, 03:22:02 PM »
I haven't read the books yet, but I intend do. Please, no spoilers.

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Re: Off Topic: The Hunger Games
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2012, 03:35:34 PM »
Mishmaat, let me know when you've finished the first book.  I want your opinion. 

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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2012, 08:30:31 PM »
Sounds very interesting.

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Re: Off Topic: The Hunger Games
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2012, 02:20:11 PM »
Mishmaat, let me know when you've finished the first book.  I want your opinion.

Okay Lisa.

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Re: Off Topic: The Hunger Games
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2012, 02:18:00 PM »
Has anyone read this book?  The movie is due out the 23rd of this month.

I just finished it yesterday.  It's basically about a dystopian future in North America where every year children between the ages of 12 to 16 are randomly picked to fight each other to the death.  These "games" are broadcast for the entire fictitious country of Panem (formerly North America) to see. 

It was just so sick and gross.  And I cant get it out of my head. 

Chaim has said in the past that a Jew is obligated to give up his or her life rather than kill an innocent human being.  (The other two conditions are idolatry and sexual immorality.)  In this book there were no Jews or Christians or people of any religion for that matter. 

For those of you who might have read it, what do you think?

The violence can be overwhelming sometimes. Purely savage. But it's just literature though. Fiction.

The only saving grace of this book is the love story which while rather shallow and contrived help to make the book somewhat interesting. If not for the love story the book would be utterly depraved trash.

The vivid description of Peeta's leg wound, the dead tributes that return as muttations, a half canine and half human hybrid, and attack Cato and Peeta, the tracker jackers, and the suicide attempt at the end really grossed me out.

I feel some level of sympathy though for the protagonist of the story, Katniss, and have nothing but contempt for the Capitol. The careless disregard for human life is disgusting.

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Re: Off Topic: The Hunger Games
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2012, 02:47:26 PM »
I pretty much agree with you Mishmaat.

But what I didn't understand, since this was the 74th Annual Hunger Games is why no one spoke out or tried to rebel for the previous 73 years before Katniss (with her small gestures).  I realize it's just fiction, but how could any mother stand by and let her child be taken to an almost certain death?  I'm sure many would, and would at least die trying to protect their children.  Or what about those teens who were chosen as tributes?  I find it hard to believe that none of them would say "I'm not going to take an innocent life.   I'd rather die first, or take my own life.  You Capitol people will have to get your entertainment elsewhere." 

Another thing that was sick to me the juxtaposition of Katniss and Peeta's time at the Capitol before the games.  They were taken away on a luxury train, fed with gourmet food.  Their quarters at the Capitol were the ultimate in luxury.  They had stylists that beautified them, and were featured on a talk show as if they were celebrities.  But that all changed when they were thrown into the arena. 

Finally one more thing.  There was no religion anywhere to be found.  No Christian or Jewish people whatsoever. 

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Re: Off Topic: The Hunger Games
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2012, 03:55:18 PM »
I have no intention of watching this but from the sound of it the plot sounds like a re-telling of the Shwartzenegger film Running Man...

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Re: Off Topic: The Hunger Games
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2012, 09:50:45 PM »
I pretty much agree with you Mishmaat.

But what I didn't understand, since this was the 74th Annual Hunger Games is why no one spoke out or tried to rebel for the previous 73 years before Katniss (with her small gestures).  I realize it's just fiction, but how could any mother stand by and let her child be taken to an almost certain death?  I'm sure many would, and would at least die trying to protect their children.  Or what about those teens who were chosen as tributes?  I find it hard to believe that none of them would say "I'm not going to take an innocent life.   I'd rather die first, or take my own life.  You Capitol people will have to get your entertainment elsewhere." 



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Re: Off Topic: The Hunger Games
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2012, 10:28:08 PM »
I pretty much agree with you Mishmaat.

But what I didn't understand, since this was the 74th Annual Hunger Games is why no one spoke out or tried to rebel for the previous 73 years before Katniss (with her small gestures).  I realize it's just fiction, but how could any mother stand by and let her child be taken to an almost certain death?  I'm sure many would, and would at least die trying to protect their children.  Or what about those teens who were chosen as tributes?  I find it hard to believe that none of them would say "I'm not going to take an innocent life.   I'd rather die first, or take my own life.  You Capitol people will have to get your entertainment elsewhere." 

Another thing that was sick to me the juxtaposition of Katniss and Peeta's time at the Capitol before the games.  They were taken away on a luxury train, fed with gourmet food.  Their quarters at the Capitol were the ultimate in luxury.  They had stylists that beautified them, and were featured on a talk show as if they were celebrities.  But that all changed when they were thrown into the arena. 

Finally one more thing.  There was no religion anywhere to be found.  No Christian or Jewish people whatsoever.

Great points Lisa.

Where was the rebellion against the Capitol? Why were the people complacent with something so inhumane?

The author would have to write a prequel to tell the back story behind the Hunger Games.

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Re: Off Topic: The Hunger Games
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2012, 10:16:57 AM »
This was recommended reading, by the language arts teacher for 6th grade, in our school district.  I'm happy that my child wasn't interested in reading it.
I find the whole subject matter disturbing and I think it was meant for a slightly older audience.
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The Hunger Games...just the title is disturbing.
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