ONE MILLION Haredim planning to march against a Torah command!

[Khan Krum]

Right, but I think you got the wrong message board.

Sorry for that.

[Yerusha]

Rabbi Kahane used to say that "The Haredim are IRRELEVANT!".

That used to be true in his era.

But now the Haredim are no longer irrelevant. Instead, shame to tell but they have actually turned in to ENEMIES of Hashem and His Torah!

Here Haredim proudly display a banner stating: "We will RATHER BE PUT TO DEATH than be conscripted for either Army Service or National Service"!

[muman613]

Oy Vey... Looks like someone is a little cranky..

Do you really think that the Torah commands us to join an organization which is against Hashem and his laws? I think that if the Army wants to be able to tap into the Haredie population they need to clean up the organization. It sounds like it is better to not join the IDF if it means losing your Jewish identity...

I mean Yerusha makes it sound like the state of Israel is a Torah state... But reality is completely opposite.

[Yerusha]

90% of Haredi Yeshiva and Kollel students no longer genuinely study Torah, but just while away the hours sipping coffee and gossiping in the Beish Midrash. And if you want to see a real killer, try and come between a Haredi and his coffee!

If R.Kahane was PM, he would immediately order a significant number of Haredim in to compulsory Haredi Army and National Service Work Batallions. And an equal number of Hillonim in to compulsory Jewish Education Units, where their zero-knowledge of Torah, Jewish and Zionist history would be reversed.

The current social situation in Israel is untenable for much longer, and being that neither Haredim nor Secularists are prepared to compromise one iota, a Heavenly decree could be propagated whereby they all get punished together as Jews, as happened in the Shoa, where no distinction in the gas chamber was made between Haredi or Secularist Jew.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

90% of Haredi Yeshiva and Kollel students no longer genuinely study Torah, but just while away the hours sipping coffee and gossiping in the Beish Midrash. And if you want to see a real killer, try and come between a Haredi and his coffee!

If R.Kahane was PM, he would immediately order a significant number of Haredim in to compulsory Haredi Army and National Service Work Batallions. And an equal number of Hillonim in to compulsory Jewish Education Units, where their zero-knowledge of Torah, Jewish and Zionist history would be reversed.

The current social situation in Israel is untenable for much longer, and being that neither Haredim nor Secularists are prepared to compromise one iota, a Heavenly decree could be propagated whereby they all get punished together as Jews, as happened in the Shoa, where no distinction in the gas chamber was made between Haredi or Secularist Jew.

What is your goal here, ma'am?

[muman613]

I agree that Israel needs to educate the secular public with a minimal Jewish education... I also agree that those Charadie men who are not studying or teaching full time should serve in the army.

But I am a bit upset at the manner by which you refer to Jews who are for the most part keeping Torah as many of us cannot at this time...

[Yerusha]

As can be seen here
http://rabbikahane.wordpress.com/2010/08/30/lag-baomer-rabbi-shimeon-bar-yochai-the-scholar-warrior/
the goal of Judaism is to produce a nation composed of Scholar-Warriors, not Scholars and Warriors.

Only when the Haredim become Warriors and the Hillonim become Scholars, will we have an Am Yisrael worthy of the name Yisrael = "Fighter for G-d"!

The very Geulah depends on this!

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

Wonga shut your trap. I know this is you.

 "The Haredim are IRRELEVANT!"


"90%"

"a Heavenly decree could be propagated whereby they all get punished together as Jews, as happened in the Shoa"

 

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

90% of Haredi Yeshiva and Kollel students no longer genuinely study Torah, but just while away the hours sipping coffee and gossiping in the Beish Midrash. And if you want to see a real killer, try and come between a Haredi and his coffee!

Lol this is exaggeration to the point of absurdity.   There are batei midrashim all over israel.  Anyone can walk in and see for themselves that what he said is complete BS.
The only kernel of truth buried deep in there is that yes, some of the kollel men waste their time and are not really fit to be learning.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Wonga shut your trap. I know this is you.

 "The Haredim are IRRELEVANT!"


"90%"

"a Heavenly decree could be propagated whereby they all get punished together as Jews, as happened in the Shoa"

lol

I knew from his very first post.