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The Hussein islamic platform notice the difference
« on: September 05, 2012, 06:43:14 AM »
The Democrats' Anti-Israel Party Platform
By Rob Miller

This year's Democratic Party Platform is an interesting document to read.  Aside from radical stances on things like same-sex marriage and unlimited, government-funded abortion on demand including partial birth abortion, it's noteworthy in that it focuses on attacking Mitt Romney by name rather than merely stating the party's position on the issues.  This use of platform planks as attack vehicles is something unique in the history of platforms from either party.

One interesting part of this year's Democrat party platform is its anti-Israel language.  In order to appreciate exactly how anti-Israel it is, it is necessary to compare it with the 2008 Democrat platform.  Let's look at it:

    For more than three decades, Israelis, Palestinians, Arab leaders, and the rest of the world have looked to America to lead the effort to build the road to a secure and lasting peace. Our starting point must always be our special relationship with Israel, grounded in shared interests and shared values, and a clear, strong, fundamental commitment to the security of Israel, our strongest ally in the region and its only established democracy. That commitment, which requires us to ensure that Israel retains a qualitative edge for its national security and its right to self-defense, is all the more important as we contend with growing threats in the region-a strengthened Iran, a chaotic Iraq, the resurgence of Al Qaeda, the reinvigoration of Hamas and Hezbollah. We support the implementation of the memorandum of understanding that pledges $30 billion in assistance to Israel over the next decade to enhance and ensure its security.

    It is in the best interests of all parties, including the United States, that we take an active role to help secure a lasting settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with a democratic, viable Palestinian state dedicated to living in peace and security side by side with the Jewish State of Israel. To do so, we must help Israel identify and strengthen those partners who are truly committed to peace, while isolating those who seek conflict and instability, and stand with Israel against those who seek its destruction.

    The United States and its Quartet partners should continue to isolate Hamas until it renounces terrorism, recognizes Israel's right to exist, and abides by past agreements. Sustained American leadership for peace and security will require patient efforts and the personal commitment of the President of the United States. The creation of a Palestinian state through final status negotiations, together with an international compensation mechanism, should resolve the issue of Palestinian refugees by allowing them to settle there, rather than in Israel.

    All understand that it is unrealistic to expect the outcome of final status negotiations to be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949. Jerusalem is and will remain the capital of Israel. The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final status negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths. [emphases added]

As you know, the Obama administration ignored most of this and has both funded and legitimized Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood while strongly pressuring Israel to retreat to the indefensible 1948 border lines, not recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, and supporting the re-division of  the city so that it is not accessible to people of all faiths...especially Jews.  In fact, the Obama administration went so far as to actually lie about the commitments made to Israel on Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria by President Bush as part of the Road Map...the same ones mentioned in the Democrat's 2008 platform!

So now, let's take a look at the new, improved 2012 Democrat Platform.  It's much more honest, in that a great deal of the pro-Israel language from 2008 has simply been excised:

    President Obama and the Democratic Party maintain an unshakable commitment to Israel's security. A strong and secure Israel is vital to the United States not simply because we share strategic interests, but also because we share common values. For this reason, despite budgetary constraints, the President has worked with Congress to increase security assistance to Israel every single year since taking office, providing nearly $10 billion in the past three years. The administration has also worked to ensure Israel's qualitative military edge in the region. And we have deepened defense cooperation - including funding the Iron Dome system - to help Israel address its most pressing threats, including the growing danger posed by rockets and missiles emanating from the Gaza Strip, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran. The President's consistent support for Israel's right to defend itself and his steadfast opposition to any attempt to delegitimize Israel on the world stage are further evidence of our enduring commitment to Israel's security.

    It is precisely because of this commitment that President Obama and the Democratic Party seek peace between Israelis and Palestinians. A just and lasting Israeli-Palestinian accord, producing two states for two peoples, would contribute to regional stability and help sustain Israel's identity as a Jewish and democratic state. At the same time, the President has made clear that there will be no lasting peace unless Israel's security concerns are met. President Obama will continue to press Arab states to reach out to Israel. We will continue to support Israel's peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan, which have been pillars of peace and stability in the region for many years. And even as the President and the Democratic Party continue to encourage all parties to be resolute in the pursuit of peace, we will insist that any Palestinian partner must recognize Israel's right to exist, reject violence, and adhere to existing agreements.

Note what's missing?  Nothing about isolating Hamas.  Nothing about Jerusalem being Israel's undivided capital accessible to all faiths.  Nothing about the 1948 ceasefire lines that left Israel with a narrow neck 9 miles wide being unrealistic.  And significantly, nothing about an Israeli-Arab peace accord being a product of final status negotiations between the parties, which leaves open the possibility of an attempt to force a "settlement" on Israel via U.N. diktat, backed, of course, by President Obama and the United States.

And unlike the 2008 platform, nothing in it that rules out American support for swamping what's left of Israel with genocidal "refugees" -- in other words, the so-called Palestinian right of return.

Not that it matters, but it's worth mentioning that Iron Dome was a joint weapons venture by Israel and the United States.  As with all such projects, Israel was fully entitled to share in the results, and in any event the aid to Israel -- almost all of which is spent in America and provides jobs and economic activity in this country -- was a product of legislation by Congress, not a gracious gift by President Obama as the platform implies.

Nor does the platform mention the de facto six-month freeze on arms sales to Israel by the Obama administration, or the hostile climate the Obama administration has created  between the U.S. and Israel since this president took office -- but then, I wouldn't expect it to.

The Democrats and the Obama campaign are obviously signaling that even the pretense of any kind of charm offensive on Israel designed to attract Jewish votes is at an end.

Which brings us to another question: how are Jewish Democrats going to react to this?

Michael Barone, the dean of American political writers. chronicles one reaction in his latest column, that of the True Believers who make up the National Jewish Democratic Coalition (NJDC).  In a word, it's denial, with members urged to "talk to their friends, but skip the 10 to 12% who are strong Republicans and are intelligent, accomplished, smart, very practiced debaters."

Another reaction is that of partisan, pro-Israel Democrats like Dennis Ross, who are simply sitting the election out.

Barone looks at the polls and sees President Obama getting 64% of the Jewish vote so far this election, as opposed to 78% in 2008.  That would make a huge difference in battleground states like Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan and approximate Democrat George McGovern's showing in 1972, versus the 33% of the Jewish vote Richard Nixon received.

The only candidate to do worse than McGovern was Jimmy Carter in 1980, who ended up with 45% of the Jewish vote in 1980.  Ronald Reagan won only 39%, with third-party candidate John Anderson getting 15%.

My own guess is that President Obama ends up with between 55% and 62% of the Jewish vote, based on what I saw my own parents doing in 1972 and 1980.  Devoted FDR-style Democrats, they couldn't bring themselves to vote for Richard Nixon or for Ronald Reagan.  But they weren't going to vote for an anti-Israel Democrat, either, so they simply didn't cast a vote for president that year.

A number of American Jews, particularly the elderly, are so conditioned to vote Democrat that they simply are unable to pull the lever for a pro-Israel Republican like Mitt Romney.  But they aren't going to vote for an anti-Israel Democrat like Barack Obama, either.

And that could make a large difference in a number of states.

Rob Miller writes for Joshuapundit.  His work has appeared in The Jerusalem Post, The Los Angeles Times, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, The San Francisco Chronicle, Real Clear Politics, Andrew Breitbart's Big Peace, and other publications.
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Re: The Hussein islamic platform notice the difference
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2012, 08:46:46 AM »
After seeing the start of the Democrat convention last night any right leaning Democrat Jew or Gentile alike that votes the Democrat  party line out of habit really has to see help for their mental health issues.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2012, 08:56:54 AM »
cjd, it's more than disgusting as to WHY these people keep voting Democrat! I try to have a civil conversation with these people and ask them WHY. Their answer to that is, their parents voted Democrat, grandparents, and so on. I try to tell them that the Republican party is more for the people than the Democrats, but they don't listen. Finally, I hit them with this, "Would your parents vote for someone to make this country a Socialist country?" and they can't answer me, because I finally hit them with the truth. There are others that just shout me down and say hateful things and I try to tell them that what they are saying are not facts they can back up so don't bother. I think I have finally gotten through to one, but she refuses to vote for Romney and instead, will stay home. I told her if she does NOT vote for Romney, oblame-o will have a better chance of getting back in again. What I can't understand is the hatred these people have for something they know NOTHING about!  >:( I even tried to get her to see 2016 with me, but being a social butterfly was more important to her than her country. I REFUSE to be quiet any longer and speak out, no matter where I am, because our parents, ancestors, and those that fought and died for our freedom can no longer speak. THEY made this country a better place for us and now WE have to make sure it wasn't in vain. G-d help us, and especially Israel, because it looks like the USA won't.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2012, 09:20:44 AM »
cjd, it's more than disgusting as to WHY these people keep voting Democrat! I try to have a civil conversation with these people and ask them WHY. Their answer to that is, their parents voted Democrat, grandparents, and so on. I try to tell them that the Republican party is more for the people than the Democrats, but they don't listen. Finally, I hit them with this, "Would your parents vote for someone to make this country a Socialist country?" and they can't answer me, because I finally hit them with the truth. There are others that just shout me down and say hateful things and I try to tell them that what they are saying are not facts they can back up so don't bother. I think I have finally gotten through to one, but she refuses to vote for Romney and instead, will stay home. I told her if she does NOT vote for Romney, oblame-o will have a better chance of getting back in again. What I can't understand is the hatred these people have for something they know NOTHING about!  >:( I even tried to get her to see 2016 with me, but being a social butterfly was more important to her than her country. I REFUSE to be quiet any longer and speak out, no matter where I am, because our parents, ancestors, and those that fought and died for our freedom can no longer speak. THEY made this country a better place for us and now WE have to make sure it wasn't in vain. G-d help us, and especially Israel, because it looks like the USA won't.
30 or 40 years ago I could see why some Democrats stayed loyal to the party...  In the big cities people looking for municipal jobs did better if they were card carrying Democrats... The unions pushed the membership into voting the party line due to the fact that Democrats were more likely to be favorable on the issues come contract time...  Sadly this is no longer the case but old habits die hard... Another part of the picture is the fact that most younger voters have been indoctrinated  by the liberal school system and go for the social issues they have been groomed to accept as normal... To them  conservatives are nasty old white folks who are trying to turn the clock back 50 years undoing all the hard won gains liberals have made over the years... Little do they know they are useful idiots and are tools that are helping the radical left turn a once great country into the likes of South Africa or even a Mexico....  Sadly even the social issues talked about last night at the convention would not be acceptable in them two countries... This show just how far down the tubes things really have gone here in America.
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Re: The Hussein islamic platform notice the difference
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2012, 10:39:23 AM »
cjd, it's more than disgusting as to WHY these people keep voting Democrat! I try to have a civil conversation with these people and ask them WHY. Their answer to that is, their parents voted Democrat, grandparents, and so on. I try to tell them that the Republican party is more for the people than the Democrats, but they don't listen. Finally, I hit them with this, "Would your parents vote for someone to make this country a Socialist country?" and they can't answer me, because I finally hit them with the truth. There are others that just shout me down and say hateful things and I try to tell them that what they are saying are not facts they can back up so don't bother. I think I have finally gotten through to one, but she refuses to vote for Romney and instead, will stay home. I told her if she does NOT vote for Romney, oblame-o will have a better chance of getting back in again. What I can't understand is the hatred these people have for something they know NOTHING about!  >:( I even tried to get her to see 2016 with me, but being a social butterfly was more important to her than her country. I REFUSE to be quiet any longer and speak out, no matter where I am, because our parents, ancestors, and those that fought and died for our freedom can no longer speak. THEY made this country a better place for us and now WE have to make sure it wasn't in vain. G-d help us, and especially Israel, because it looks like the USA won't.
My brother saw it after work at 6pm with some Friends after work he said the place was crowded.He said this shows in husseins own words how out of the mainstream obama is.BTW it's opening this week in 1000 new theaters
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Re: The Hussein islamic platform notice the difference
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2012, 05:35:10 PM »
You are so right cjd, we were union workers and yes, they had their place at one time, but now they are coming out with their true colors and not afraid to say they WANT socialism! I think all common sense has disappeared from so many in this country, how sad.

Mord, 2016 just came here on Friday and EVERY seat has been filled since it's been here! And this is a small town! LOL My guess is that people are coming from all around, even rural areas to see this and I'm so glad it finally got here. I was so afraid I wasn't going to be able to see it.
There's another movie coming out, Hope and Change, I think it's called and they are going to try to get it on TV! I sure hope so and BEFORE the election!
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