"New Kach" to run

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

Anyone who saw Ibn Assad (Ben Ari in Arabic) speaking live on Thursday could understand what this fag is all about: he said the word "Knesset" 10 times more than he said "Kahane". No wonder the entire audience (even his sworn supporters) fell asleep

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

Would you rather give them the interest back, invest in the Swiss, or give money to people that will us it to kill your brothers?

 
  No, but I said their could have been a misunderstanding or something and a mistake perhaps.

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

Fine, scratch that, we all suddenly support giving money to muslims, and we understand the little whoopsies when your money just happens to fall into an Arabic ATM. There are some Jews named mohammed like this imaginary friend nobody has, and he said shalom, so this guy thought he was wearing a big square kippah. Also, something validates this.

Do you still like this guy?

 Are you ookay? Where did I say to do any dealings with Arabs in Israel?
 
 I would like to hear directly from him (if possible) to give his explanation and or perhaps say he did wrong and move on.
 
 I was just saying and giving possible scenarios that could have arisen because lending and taking interest from a Jew is a serious matter.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

I dont know these laws well, nor am I in such a position (to borrow or lend), but perhaps this has to do with the fact that many still hold that a Jew cannot earn interest from another Jew (directly for sure everyone agrees) with a bank still many do hold by that, although some say that with a bank it is different since its a business and has investors etc.
 Soo if he was making $ off a bank, he did not want to earn interest from a Jewish bank soo made $ off an Arab bank. Anyway he was making $ off them and not the other way around.
  According to Halacha a Jew cannot charge another Jew interest nor can he pay interest to another Jew. With a non-Jew both are allowed. To pay and get paid. Soo maybe he was taking that into consideration since i believe Haredim (most if not all) hold that way and thus would not and do not deal with any Jewish owned bank.

    Can you directly speak with him or some of these people and deal with these issues?

 http://machonshilo.org/en/eng/list-audio-shiurim/41-audiohalakha/234-prosbol-how-can-a-torah-misswah-be-cancelled-
- He holds it is not forbidden for a Jewish Bank  to charge interest.
- But never-the-less I did discuss a little about this with another Rabbi and he did say that one should not pay interest to a Jewish owned bank (thus meaning not to borrow from them).

בס''ד

You have to be kidding.

First of all, you are allowed to put money in a bank and earn interest. Marzel opened a bank account with money he raised. He didn't take out a loan.

You are never allowed to conduct business with Nazi Jew-killers who are working to destroy your people. Arab Nazi banks are the economic pillars of the Arab Nazi campaign to destroy Israel from within. Marzel was willing to do business with them and give them legitimacy.

When his donors started to complain, Marzel changed course and opened an account in an Israeli bank. The fact that he was willing to open an account in an Arab Nazi bank shows that Marzel has no principles and cannot be trusted.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

Chaim, after months of open for support for Mitt Romney as the lesser of evils, I have difficulty in understanding why you can't apply the same logic to supporting Israeli politicians who at least claim to be Kahanists, even if they have some of the drawbacks that you have already pointed out.

בס''ד

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Unlike Obama, Romney will not obsessively pressure Israel to retreat to the pre-1967 suicidal borders and to allow Nazi Iran to build nuclear bombs. So Romney is obviously preferable.

But electing phony "Kahanists" to the Knesset in Israel only hurts the Jewish cause. Michael Ben Ari the "Kahanist" says that Iranian nuclear bombs are not a problem for Israel. Ben Ari tells us that Netanyahu is lying when he says that a nuclear Iran is a threat to Israel. Ben Ari claims that it is impossible to stop the Iranian nuclear program and it would be "the stupidest thing" for Israel to try to stop it. Ben Ari's position is dangerous and crazy - he is misleading his fellow Jews and doing so in the name of Kahanism.

And this is just one of numerous issues in which Ben Ari does great damage.

[ChabadKahanist]

The politicians here including the self proclaimed "Kahanists"(sic) like Ben Ari,Ben Givir & Marzel make a great deal of noise about the Sudanese infiltrators but are totally silent about the smega infested uncircumcised  Russsian Goyim Anti-Semites who are given Israeli citizenship,why the silence? Why the hypocracy?
If the Sudanese must go the Russian Goyim must go as well.
See http://pogrom.org.il/eng_articles.php?art_id=16
 & also see http://pogrom.org.il/eng_articles.php?art_id=36

[ChabadKahanist]

Chaim is is  100 % correct on his assessment of Ben Ari.
Real Authentic Jews are denied the right to make aliyah or even enter the country like Chaim while smega infested uncircumcised Russian Goyim get "aliyah" with ease.
There are Russian Goyim neo-nazis with a teudat zehut (Israeli ID card) with all benefits & Ben Ari is busy chasing schvartzers & doing nothing to help real Jews.

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

The politicians here including the self proclaimed "Kahanists"(sic) like Ben Ari,Ben Givir & Marzel make a great deal of noise about the Sudanese infiltrators but are totally silent about the smega infested uncircumcised  Russsian Goyim Anti-Semites who are given Israeli citizenship,why the silence? Why the hypocracy?
If the Sudanese must go the Russian Goyim must go as well.
See http://pogrom.org.il/eng_articles.php?art_id=16
 & also see http://pogrom.org.il/eng_articles.php?art_id=36

 Everything has its time and place. It is like accusing Rav Kahane ZTL HYD of not being for a fully Jewish state because he was talking about expelling the Arab enemies and not about establishing the Shabbath to the full extent. Or not talking as much about Yom tiv or something else. Everything has and had its correct time and circumstances.

[ChabadKahanist]

 Everything has its time and place. It is like accusing Rav Kahane ZTL HYD of not being for a fully Jewish state because he was talking about expelling the Arab enemies and not about establishing the Shabbath to the full extent. Or not talking as much about Yom tiv or something else. Everything has and had its correct time and circumstances.

Neo-Nazis from Russia have no place here & don't overlook that Jews are being denied aliyah while these scum are given carte blanche to enter & enjoy citizenship & benefits

[ChabadKahanist]

Indeed brother, Chaim Ben Pesah, and likely almost every Jew denied aliyah would be of more benefit to Israel then all the illegal immigrants in Israel combined.

My point is these Russian Goyim are here legally with the blessings of the Israeli government.
They were brought here because the leftists feared that the religious would outnumber them & take away their power so they brought in even those with forged papers claiming that they had some distant Jewish relative.
They are here & Chaim & others can not be here,what garbage this is & it must be publicised that Russian Goyim are more welcome by the Israeli government than religious Jews.

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

all of those I trust 100% I know a copule of them and they are great and always continue in the way of the Rav

[Yerusha]

Either these fake "Kahanists" must be a shtikel simple, or they have been infiltrated or are even infiltrators, sent to subvert the right from within cf Sharon and Raviv. Some claim that the "New Kach" is actually a Shabak operation!

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

Either these fake "Kahanists" must be a shtikel simple, or they have been infiltrated or are even infiltrators, sent to subvert the right from within cf Sharon and Raviv. Some claim that the "New Kach" is actually a Shabak operation!

 Who cares (actually we do) but the main thing is the message of Rav Kahane and the Torah. I will not and do not believe that those who operate the Yeshiva of the Jewish idea would be some shabak agents.
 In fact I would have a lot more suspicion on someone like you who is trying to stirr the pot constantly here (and perhaps elsewhere as well, who knows).

[Yerusha]

Speaking about the fake Right Wing, we nevertheless wish to be melamed zechuss on everyone wherever possible.

Are there any good points about the new head of Habayit Hayehudi Naftali Bennet?
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-4302091,00.html

[Yerusha]

Feiglin's opinion of Bennett:


" Bennett was born to USA olim from San Francisco, was a super combat soldier in Israel's elite fighting unit and is famous for being one of Israel's bright guys who started a hi-tech company and sold it for tens of millions of dollars.

Yesterday – the day when close to 60 million people voted for Barack Obama – a little less than 24,000 members of Bayit Yehudi voted and chose the man who many refer to as "the Feiglin of the Mafdal".

Bennett is a breath of fresh air and will infuse the "knitted kippot" political scene with energy and hope.

I expect Bennett's party to rise in the polls and receive many more seats that they currently have, which will have a negative impact on Likud.

The Likud today – especially after its merger with Avigdor Liberman's party – no longer appeals to the Religious Zionists.

There is of course, one thing, that can save Likud and bring back these votes.

If Moshe Feiglin receives a significant spot on the Likud Knesset "lineup", then – and only then - will Likud have a chance to convince these voters to come back.

Elections for the Likud Knesset "lineup" is scheduled for November 25th and we are working very hard and making sure that Moshe receives a strong and secure spot on that slate.

There is another reason why Moshe needs to be a key member of Likud's Knesset team.

Yesterday's victory for Obama means that Israel will face a very hostile USA president for the next 4 years.

Not only is Obama a lame duck president but he certainly wants "pay-back" for the support that Netanyahu's buddy, Sheldon Adelson, gave to his opponent.

Bibi will now face a very angry and unfriendly USA president that will make the last 4 years look like the Garden of Eden.

The pressure on Bibi will be enormous and the only way he will survive this pressure will be to have a strong Likud team in the Knesset who will give him the backbone he lacks.

Moshe could be the answer to that problem.

While this is not our main goal, it is an important by-product, and can make the difference to an Israel who bends or stands strong will a steel spine."

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Feiglin's opinion of Bennett:


" Bennett was born to USA olim from San Francisco, was a super combat soldier in Israel's elite fighting unit and is famous for being one of Israel's bright guys who started a hi-tech company and sold it for tens of millions of dollars.

Yesterday – the day when close to 60 million people voted for Barack Obama – a little less than 24,000 members of Bayit Yehudi voted and chose the man who many refer to as "the Feiglin of the Mafdal".

Bennett is a breath of fresh air and will infuse the "knitted kippot" political scene with energy and hope.

I expect Bennett's party to rise in the polls and receive many more seats that they currently have, which will have a negative impact on Likud.

The Likud today – especially after its merger with Avigdor Liberman's party – no longer appeals to the Religious Zionists.

There is of course, one thing, that can save Likud and bring back these votes.

If Moshe Feiglin receives a significant spot on the Likud Knesset "lineup", then – and only then - will Likud have a chance to convince these voters to come back.

Elections for the Likud Knesset "lineup" is scheduled for November 25th and we are working very hard and making sure that Moshe receives a strong and secure spot on that slate.

There is another reason why Moshe needs to be a key member of Likud's Knesset team.

Yesterday's victory for Obama means that Israel will face a very hostile USA president for the next 4 years.

Not only is Obama a lame duck president but he certainly wants "pay-back" for the support that Netanyahu's buddy, Sheldon Adelson, gave to his opponent.

Bibi will now face a very angry and unfriendly USA president that will make the last 4 years look like the Garden of Eden.

The pressure on Bibi will be enormous and the only way he will survive this pressure will be to have a strong Likud team in the Knesset who will give him the backbone he lacks.

Moshe could be the answer to that problem.

While this is not our main goal, it is an important by-product, and can make the difference to an Israel who bends or stands strong will a steel spine."

It seems to me Feiglin has ceased to make logical sense.  In what way would Feiglin impact the relations between Obama and Netanyahu?   Even if he got 2nd seat on the list (which obviously will not happen) how would that impact it?    Even though his message doesn't make sense anymore, he's trying to get himself a higher seat.  And I get that.   He made it pretty close and seems to me like he wants to make a name for himself before he abandons this trainwreck and resets the whole manhigut yehudit program.   If he's not thinking of resetting that, then I don't know what he's thinking.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Chaim is is  100 % correct on his assessment of Ben Ari.
Real Authentic Jews are denied the right to make aliyah or even enter the country like Chaim while smega infested uncircumcised Russian Goyim get "aliyah" with ease.
There are Russian Goyim neo-nazis with a teudat zehut (Israeli ID card) with all benefits & Ben Ari is busy chasing schvartzers & doing nothing to help real Jews.

lol, interesting point.  And amusing way of phrasing it.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

all of those I trust 100% I know a copule of them and they are great and always continue in the way of the Rav

What is your comment in reference to?

[Yerusha]

The new party is called "Otzma l'Yisrael"
 http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=291611

Presumably most 'Kahanists' will vote for it!



But will it detract seats from the "Ichud Leumi/Bayit Yehudi" faction, who although wimpish, are betta than nothing!

[ChabadKahanist]

I will have nothing to do with it unless they deal with the smega infested uncircumcised Russian Goyim & send them back to Russia or elsewhere!!!!!

[edu]

A reminder for those who may have forgotten or never the learned the laws against lashon hara {slander and gossip}
Quote from http://www.torah.org/learning/halashon/chapter8.html#Forbidden

Speaking Lashon Hara About Scholars and Non-Scholars

The prohibition of Lashon Hara applies even with regard to an "Am HaAretz" (person of low intelligence or limited education), because he is also considered part of the nation of G-d's emissaries who were taken out of Egypt.

All the more so is it forbidden to speak about a Torah scholar (lit. "Talmid Chacham", also a role model in study, observance, and righteous conduct) certainly the speaker's violation is even more severe [because he transgresses additional commandments]. The Sages tell us, "Anyone who speaks about the strayings of a Torah scholar falls to Gehinom...." Also, by speaking the Lashon Hara, one might violate the prohibition against shaming a Torah scholar. The punishment of disgracing a Torah scholar is described in tractate Sanhedrin, and the Shulchan Arukh cites this in Yoreh Deah 243:6, "For he has disgraced the word of G-d....his soul shall be cut off."

The evil inclination incites man to believe that the law regarding shaming a Torah scholar is no longer relevant: that it is from the times of the Talmud, and refers to people as great as the scholars from those times, not those living today. This is a grave error, for the ranking of a Torah scholar is according to the generation, so even if nowadays someone is trained only in Yoreh Deah (the basic program for Rabbinic ordination, consisting primarily of the laws of Kashruth) and is accomplished in Torah study, he merits to be called a Torah scholar.

Therefore one who disgraces any Torah scholar--even through meaningless comments--whether to the scholar's face or when he isn't present, commits a severe sin and is thereby deserving of excommunication (as discussed in Yoreh Deah 243:7 and also the Shach's comments on 334 in note 68).

The transgression is more serious if the speaker of Lashon Hara is a community leader. Each community member is obliged to regard the scholar as a communal authority, treating him with respect and following his guidance. Furthermore, by disparaging the Torah leader he dissuades others from the worship of G-d, for in response to his words others will say, "Why should we go ask him [the Rabbi] the details of the Torah that we need to clarify, since he [is not qualified to] pass judgement?" Then everyone will "build their own altar" [a reference to the days of the Judges, when individuals created their own moral guidelines and modes of worship], and otherwise contribute to a breakdown of Torah observance, may Hashem protect us from this.

[Yerusha]

I will have nothing to do with it unless they deal with the smega infested uncircumcised Russian Goyim & send them back to Russia or elsewhere!!!!!

The word is spelled "[censored]", not "smega"!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[censored]

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

I will discuss this on the next "Ask JTF", G-d willing.

These sell-outs are now running with the secularist Aryeh Eldad at the head of their new party. Eldad has said that "Jewish terrorists" (Jews who defend themselves against Muslim Nazis) should "die in prison". Eldad also opposed any meaningful resistance to the expulsion in Gush Katif.

The new party they are presenting is actually a combination of two parties: Eldad's secular party and the Ben Ari-Marzel-Ben Gvir party which is called the "Jewish National Front". When I was still supporting them, I urged them not to run with that name because the "National Front" in England is a Nazi party. But as always, they ignored my advice and now they are running with that name again.

[ChabadKahanist]

The word is spelled "[censored]", not "smega"!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[censored]

I know how it is spelled this was a typo because I was typing too fast

[ChabadKahanist]

I know how it is spelled this was a typo because I was typing too fast

Chaim could you also comment on the thousands of Russian Goyim with Israeli citizenship who came here by fraudulent means & many who are neo nazis?
See www.pogrom.org.il about the numerous acts of Jew-hatred & neo-nazi activities purportrated here in the land of Israel by these [censored]!!!