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Political Correctness Killled Romney
« on: November 08, 2012, 10:07:18 AM »
The numbers don't lie.  Romney won about 59% of the white vote.  Had he received around 64% of the white vote he might have won  the election.

Instead of stressing white interests, he ran a PC campaign aimed at not offending the muslim, black, and spanish lobbies.  Why did these minorities vote for Obama in huge numbers?  Because he looks more like them than does Romney. 

Let's get real: the spanish don't give a damn about tax policy, etc.; most of them don't pay taxes anyway.  They preferred Obama because he has brown skin.  Period.  Why shouldn't whites act the same way if it's in their interest to do so?  And why is it wrong for whites to vote for the white guy and acceptable for blacks and spanish to vote for the brown skin guy?

Had he waged a campaign stressing white rights and interests and attacking Islamic extremism and ethnocentric pan-hispanicism in the US, Romney could have won a close election with an elevated white vote -- whites are still the largest voting block by far in the US.  The media would not have liked it, but screw them; they wanted Obama re-elected no matter what.

Nice guys finish last, as they say.
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Re: Political Correctness Killled Romney
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2012, 10:28:32 AM »
When Romney was fighting against his fellow GOP candidates - SOME OF WHO HAD THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY WIN THE ELECTION - then he debated them with gusto and arrogance...

When he had to deal with the leftist establishment he would mumble during speeches and stare awkwardly.  I felt very nervous every time he opened his mouth because he would stutter quite a bit during interviews, and I felt that he could have one of those "moments" that would make him look like a fool on national television.

Conversely, every time Gingrich was interviewed on national television, his words flowed, his reactions were flawless, and you could even see Pierce Morgan YSV taking a liking to him towards the end of the election.  He was very comfortable to watch, and he would have unquestionably defeated Obama in my opinion.

Another missed opportunity was attacking Consolidated Edison during Hurricane Sandy.  The Romney Campaign could have brought up the association with Obama and Con-Ed.  Thomas Ayers, the former CEO and Chairman and father of William Ayers, bankrolled Obama's early political rise.  Just bringing up this association would have cost Obama votes, seeing how lousy a job Con-Ed was doing in restoring power.  Gingrich, who attacked Saul Alinsky in the primaries, would have most certainly brought up O's association with Ayers during the campaign.  Don't get me wrong, I don't trust Gingrich one bit, but he would have defeated Obama in the end.

Romney is an evil man who deserves what he got.  And let's admit it, everything the media said about his phony "business experience" was true.  I think we can say this out in the open now since it doesn't matter anymore.  While I'm sure Bain dealt justly with a lot of parasitic companies, I'm also quite confident that they tore apart a lot of viable companies, and destroyed a lot of good, White, conservative families by putting a lot of husbands out of work.

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Re: Political Correctness Killled Romney
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2012, 11:03:28 AM »
I think Romney is decent certainly for the standards of a politicians. But the Mr Niceguy is an image he took after he had used less then honorable tactics to crush Newt and Santorum and every other opponent. It would do him better if he used his ruthless tactics against Osama and if he tried to belittle him and humiliate him as much as possible.

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Re: Political Correctness Killled Romney
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 12:10:05 PM »
The people have gone bad.  It doesn't matter, white, black or indifferent.  Why are they sitting on 1-4 hour gas lines and not saying boo about it.  They have become complacent lemmings looking for a handout.  I don't think Mitt Romney was the problem.  If the economy wasn't enough to make them vote against Osama, then we are doomed.  I just spent $40 in the grocery store for a few staples.  Yet, I don't hear my neighbors or coworkers complaining about anything.  The problem is the people not who Romney targeted in his campaigning.  When abortion is the most important issue to women, not well being of family, all is lost.
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Re: Political Correctness Killled Romney
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 12:13:26 PM »
I still think the reason why Romney played it safe... was because the populace had been brainwashed by such a huge degree that Obama is Mr. Super Likeable do-no-wrong wonder-president.

The polls kinda reflected this... with Obama's likeabillity numbers through the roof.




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Re: Political Correctness Killled Romney
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 12:30:49 PM »
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The people have gone bad.  It doesn't matter, white, black or indifferent.  Why are they sitting on 1-4 hour gas lines and not saying boo about it.  They have become complacent lemmings looking for a handout.  I don't think Mitt Romney was the problem.  If the economy wasn't enough to make them vote against Osama, then we are doomed.  I just spent $40 in the grocery store for a few staples.  Yet, I don't hear my neighbors or coworkers complaining about anything.  The problem is the people not who Romney targeted in his campaigning.  When abortion is the most important issue to women, not well being of family, all is lost.
I disagree...  Republicans have been facing a different voting bloc since JFK.  With women's sufferage, they now have to appeal to a huge voter base (female) that will not vote based on logic, but emotion.  A big misconception of why Romney did in fact at least end up with a sizeable popular vote is because a lot of the women who voted for him did so because he is handsome and successful, two things women admire in a candidate, because psychologically, they see themselves married to said individual and being taken care of by him.  In this respect only, the Republican establishment calculaced well here, choosing Romney the handsome businessman for married women and Ryan the young "rising star" for single young women, as opposed to Obama, the ugly negro pickaninny, and Biden, the senile balding fool.

Now, this approach could have been successful if the Republicans had been excercising Democrat-style spending policies on the masses for the past 50 years...  We would have ended up with a Socialist Republican Presidency, but once again, it would have still been better than Obama.  But that's not who or what the Republican Establishment are.  They spent their last presidency enacting bizarre NeoCon financial schemas, enriching their crony contractors by wasting our money trying to Kiss Moslem tuchus in hellholes like Afghanistan.  That they intended to use this approach where it clearly could not have worked, is illogical, and is why I am reminded of my premonitions during the Primaries that backing Romney was some sort ot sabotage and that elements in the GOP wanted Obama to win for whatever reason.

Another approach, and the correct approach which Chaim mentions, would have been them backing a candidate like Huckabee, who would scare straight a sizeable majority - a majority we would have needed to win - by bringing up the truthful facts about the background of the HNIC.  Like Chaim said, he would have been accused of "McCarthyism", but we would have won the election.

Ultimately, women chose government as their provider instead of a president-husband figure.

I wholeheartedly agree with Chaim in that the presidency was absolutely obtainable for us this election.

I would like to get AsheDina's comments on the female vote as well...

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Re: Political Correctness Killled Romney
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2012, 01:01:51 PM »
Something was not good from the very beginning. Most able candidates like Ric Santorum and Herman Cain tumbled down from the staircases as if the rats were jumping on them. Romney spoke well against Reps but kept silence against the Dems as if directed by the OWG.
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Re: Political Correctness Killled Romney
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 01:00:36 AM »
When Romney was fighting against his fellow GOP candidates - SOME OF WHO HAD THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY WIN THE ELECTION - then he debated them with gusto and arrogance...

When he had to deal with the leftist establishment he would mumble during speeches and stare awkwardly.  I felt very nervous every time he opened his mouth because he would stutter quite a bit during interviews, and I felt that he could have one of those "moments" that would make him look like a fool on national television.

Conversely, every time Gingrich was interviewed on national television, his words flowed, his reactions were flawless, and you could even see Pierce Morgan YSV taking a liking to him towards the end of the election.  He was very comfortable to watch, and he would have unquestionably defeated Obama in my opinion.

Another missed opportunity was attacking Consolidated Edison during Hurricane Sandy.  The Romney Campaign could have brought up the association with Obama and Con-Ed.  Thomas Ayers, the former CEO and Chairman and father of William Ayers, bankrolled Obama's early political rise.  Just bringing up this association would have cost Obama votes, seeing how lousy a job Con-Ed was doing in restoring power.  Gingrich, who attacked Saul Alinsky in the primaries, would have most certainly brought up O's association with Ayers during the campaign.  Don't get me wrong, I don't trust Gingrich one bit, but he would have defeated Obama in the end.

Romney is an evil man who deserves what he got.  And let's admit it, everything the media said about his phony "business experience" was true.  I think we can say this out in the open now since it doesn't matter anymore.  While I'm sure Bain dealt justly with a lot of parasitic companies, I'm also quite confident that they tore apart a lot of viable companies, and destroyed a lot of good, White, conservative families by putting a lot of husbands out of work.

I hear all your points except the last paragraph.   When a company like Bain breaks up a business, it's because that business or business model is simply not sustainable.   So they tear down to try to build up something else that is.   He spoke about how the net change was a gain in jobs, and that is true, but the reality of business is that layoffs happen and people suffer.  But when you really think about it, their job was never safe in the first place because the business itself was going down the tubes.  That business could never have remained viable and continued paying the benefits, the retirement plan, the pension, and eventually the salary itself.   So if it's done out of necessity, you can't fault the people involved, even though I'd obviously be really pissed if it happened to me and people do suffer tremendously from being laid off.   Some people involved with that work are vultures and evil people, I'm sure.   But I don't think all of them are, and I don't think Romney was the type of person who rejoiced about someone else losing their job.

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Re: Political Correctness Killled Romney
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 01:01:36 AM »
The people have gone bad.  It doesn't matter, white, black or indifferent.  Why are they sitting on 1-4 hour gas lines and not saying boo about it.  They have become complacent lemmings looking for a handout.  I don't think Mitt Romney was the problem.  If the economy wasn't enough to make them vote against Osama, then we are doomed.  I just spent $40 in the grocery store for a few staples.  Yet, I don't hear my neighbors or coworkers complaining about anything.  The problem is the people not who Romney targeted in his campaigning.  When abortion is the most important issue to women, not well being of family, all is lost.

Wow, you said it, bullcat!    So true.