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Jews-on-gentiles?
« on: July 09, 2007, 10:07:46 PM »
I was recently informed that gentile women go crazy for Jewish men. :o

It seems many non-Jews are now signing up for jdate, the online Jewish singles' site. Predictably, the gentile women want stable, reliable men with good jobs, possibly ones who, despite what their presense on jdate suggests, actually prefer non-Jewish women (one woman puts in her profile that she wishes to be someone's "shiksa"), and the gentile men want well-put-together, assertive women. Mensches and JAPs, in other, more dated, words.

All I can say is, how creepy. It makes sense that, like any group, Jews would attract their share of ethnic fetishists or people who swallow whole every positive stereotype they hear them. But jdate is supposed to connect actual people, of an actual religious heritage, not provide women statistically more likely to wear nice clothes or men statistically more likely to be professionals.

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Jdate should be for those either already Jewish or interested in converting

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reveals to what extent stereotypes of pushy Jewish women and push-over (but wealthy) Jewish men still exist in the public consciousness.



http://whatwouldphoebedo.blogspot.com/2004/12/outdated-jdate.html

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Re: Jews-on-gentiles?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2007, 10:11:39 PM »
They also have Blck women on Jdate
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2007, 10:20:39 PM »
I've heard of this phenomenon as well.  I always believed that if the Jews are ever going to be destroyed it will be through love of them and not anything else.  The fact that JDate is contributing to this is sick.  Aren't Jewish men and women in America bombarded with gentiles in every day life.  Now they need to have them on JDate as well?  Let's face it, in American life, we can't get a break.  Everything we see around us is one more temptation to go after a gentile seductress.  I think JDate should require every registrant to be Jewish.  You know, come to think of it, I saw a gentile on JDate that I even thought about contacting!  She struck me as particularly un-Jewish looking and I was interested in her and I read her profile and it said something like "I like Jews, I have a couple of Jewish roomates, I think they're cool!"  It's fraudulent to have them on there, I thought she was Jewish but it turned out that she just wanted to be somebody's shiksa!   
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Re: Jews-on-gentiles?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2007, 09:43:07 AM »
Whether this is true or this is not, it is not something to celebrate or be proud of. Whether these women are selfish gold-diggers or wonderful decent people makes no difference, The Torah is quite clear that this is forbidden. It says it in the Tanakh, in Nehemiah, Ezra, Deuteronomy. It's all over the place.

 By the way, it would be more polite not to use the term shiksa. It is an insult in Yiddish. I know that non-yiddish speakers use it to mean a beautiful gentile woman. For example, no one will be calling Oprah Winfrey or Whoopi Goldberg a shiksa anytime soon. However the actual word is an insult and shouldn't be used unless the woman in question deserves it.
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Re: Jews-on-gentiles?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2007, 12:53:39 PM »
Whether this is true or this is not, it is not something to celebrate or be proud of. Whether these women are selfish gold-diggers or wonderful decent people makes no difference, The Torah is quite clear that this is forbidden. It says it in the Tanakh, in Nehemiah, Ezra, Deuteronomy. It's all over the place.

 By the way, it would be more polite not to use the term shiksa. It is an insult in Yiddish. I know that non-yiddish speakers use it to mean a beautiful gentile woman. For example, no one will be calling Oprah Winfrey or Whoopi Goldberg a shiksa anytime soon. However the actual word is an insult and shouldn't be used unless the woman in question deserves it.


Is it okay to use the expression JAP (Jewish-American Princess)?

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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2007, 01:37:22 PM »
WHY NOT
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2007, 01:44:30 PM »
I don't see why not. It's not much of an insult. I've met people who consider it a compliment.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2007, 01:46:03 PM »
I don't see why not. It's not much of an insult. I've met people who consider it a compliment.

They're most likely sick in the head.  It's definitely an insult.  The way that the women who consider themselves "Jewish American Princesses" behave is insulting as well.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2007, 01:56:02 PM »
True, but some of those people don't mind it.
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Re: Jews-on-gentiles?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2007, 08:16:23 PM »
Jdate is not a strictly orthodox site so I see no reason why converts can't be from the other branches of Judaism.
I know several gentile women who have met and married Jewish men from Jdate and converted because of it.
Jdate is not a religious dating site so I don't have a problem with it. If you are looking for a religious Jew don't go on Jdate because they are few and far between on there.

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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2007, 09:26:39 PM »
If we don't destroy ourselves and the world, we will in about 1000 tears be a world of muts and mongrels. The mixing of the races and religions will be the downfall of man and we will be no more guided by our heritage than by our desire to be different and "evolved".
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2007, 09:33:21 PM »
If we don't destroy ourselves and the world, we will in about 1000 tears be a world of muts and mongrels. The mixing of the races and religions will be the downfall of man and we will be no more guided by our heritage than by our desire to be different and "evolved".

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Re: Jews-on-gentiles?
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2007, 11:28:01 PM »
JDate should not be for people INTERESTED in converting. It should only be for people whose mother is Jewish or who already converted according to Halacha.

JDate is a garbage site that allows married women and fags to post as well.




You hit the nail with the hammer, yacov!  And yes, sometimes i go on jdate for kicks...
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Re: Jews-on-gentiles?
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2007, 05:51:58 AM »
Gentile women going with Jewish men is very common but Jewish women rarely if ever go for gentile men - unless the gentile male in question is black!

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2007, 06:01:44 AM »
Gentile women going with Jewish men is very common but Jewish women rarely if ever go for gentile men - unless the gentile male in question is black!

There's a great section on Jewish dating on aish.com.

They asked Jewish women why they won't date Jewish men and they answer "they're not macho,not sexy, too cheap blah blah blah"

They asked gentile women why they DO date Jewish men and they answered " better providers, more cultured, more mature, more responsible etc"

I guess the grass is greener on the other side.

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Re: Jews-on-gentiles?
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2007, 07:03:54 AM »


I guess the grass is greener on the other side.



That is so true.


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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2007, 07:06:44 AM »
It's Black on white all over the world
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2007, 07:15:50 AM »
There's also the shiksa-peal thing. It gives me a giant dose of the you-know -whats. I adore Jewish women but I'm a noachide. There's nothing in the sheva mitzvot that says I can't marry a Jewess, but I'd be putting a stumbling block before the blind (making HER break a mitzva) if I did. So I can't. :'(

Then there are these silly Jews who have all the lovely Jewish women to choose from and they want stupid shiksas..........who won't bear them Jewish children. It makes me annoyed.

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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2007, 07:23:56 AM »
You can keep your gentile women.  I'm not interested in them.   ;)

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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2007, 07:25:28 AM »
Look Heidi Klum the attractive German model married a Black man why? why?
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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2007, 07:27:43 AM »
You can keep your gentile women.  I'm not interested in them.   ;)

I don't blame you. I'm not that keen on them either.....but I have no choice :'( I wonder if a rabbi might let me marry a Jewish widow? I'm the same religion....I just have less mitzvot.....probably not.)

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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2007, 07:30:19 AM »
Your Irish Newman aren'nt you? the Irish are the lost tribe :laugh:
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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2007, 07:30:53 AM »
Look Heidi Klum the attractive German model married a Black man why? why?

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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2007, 07:33:43 AM »
Your Irish Newman aren'nt you? the Irish are the lost tribe :laugh:
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2007, 07:34:46 AM »
Your Irish Newman aren'nt you? the Irish are the lost tribe :laugh:
Distant Irish, English, Norwegian ( don't tell anybody...they havn't forgotten bloody Oslo) and 1/16 chinese.....I'm the result of an orgy ;)
A world wide orgy :laugh: ::)
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