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German pastor: Anti-Israel film boosts Nazi support
By BENJAMIN WEINTHAL
02/12/2013 16:58
A German court ruled that a pastor will continue to be able to describe a film about Israel-Palestinian conflict as anti-Semitic.
Palestinians hold a flag in the West Bank
Palestinians hold a flag in the West Bank Photo: Reuters/Mohamad Torokman

BERLIN -A German regional court in the state of Bavaria covering the cities of Nürnberg-Fürth ruled on Friday that a pastor will continue to be able to describe a film about the Israel-Palestinian conflict as anti-Semitic.

The pastor argued the film contributes to strengthening the neo-Nazi scene and anti-Semitism in the federal republic, according to a report in the local Nordbayern newspaper.
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The Nordbayern reported that the court affirmed that the pastor's criticism is protected by freedom of speech. The pastor accused the film by Stefanie Landgraf of anti-Semitism because of comparisons between the Jewish state an Nazi Germany. The film is titled, “We refuse to be enemies.”

It compares a Palestinian refugee camp in the West Bank with the Warsaw Ghetto during the Holocaust. In addition to the alleged demonization of Israel through the Nazi comparison, the pastor labeled the film anti-Semitic because in the film, a Jewish museum is charged with manipulating the Holocaust in order to steal land from the Palestinians.

Nathan Gelbart, a leading international expert on media law, wrote the Jerusalem Post by email,"The magistrate court has not ruled Ms. Landgraf´s movie as anti-Semitic but just has allowed the defendant to continue to call this movie anti-Semitic as a legitimate expression of his views and thoughts which are protected by Article 5 of the German Constitution."

Gelbart , who practices law for the Berlin-based FPS firm, added "Ms. Landgraf might not like it but has to live with it since the defendant has not crossed the red line calling her movie anti-semitic without any reasons." The film spat comes on the heels of a heated debate over modern anti-Semtism. The Spiegel columnist Jakob Augstein compared the Gaza Strip to a camp in connection with Israel's policies toward the Hamas-controlled enclave. The German word for camp evokes a concentration camp from the Nazi period.

German critics of Augstein pointed to the EU’s definition of contemporary anti-Semitism, which outlines parallels between Israel and Nazi Germany to be a crystal clear example of anti-Semitism.

The head of the city’s school administrator in Nürnberg, Klemens Gsell, from the Christian Social Union party, barred the Nürnberger school system from showing the film. Landgraf told Nürnberger Nachrichten daily on Monday that “Germany must stop to impose such restrictions." He said Israel is responsible for the expulsion of the Palestinians and permanently violates human rights.

At a film presentation on Sunday in Nürnberg, an elderly lady said “We have paid for what our parents did" and “today we do not have to put on a muzzle.” According to the article, many spectators from the audience totaling 180 applauded her remarks.

The oldest serving head of a German Jewish community, Arno Hamburger, Israelitischen Kultusgemeinde (IKG) in Nürnberg also slammed the film for its distorted depiction of Israel
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Re: German Pastor allowed to preach anti Israel film boosts Nazism
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 07:01:43 PM »
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                                                            :fist:


 With all due disrespect, you know where this idiot is going. Never Again!

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Re: German Pastor allowed to preach anti Israel film boosts Nazism
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 12:15:33 AM »
:usa+israel:                                                                                                                                            :fist:


 With all due disrespect, you know where this idiot is going. Never Again!

What do you mean? He's totally righteous. Oh, you mean the filmmaker.

I applaud the Nürnberg city school administration head, Klemens Gsell, and this preacher, whoever he is. They are lone voices of sanity. Antizionism is the new antisemitism.

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Re: German Pastor allowed to preach anti Israel film boosts Nazism
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 03:28:26 AM »
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                                                              :fist:



 Of course the filmmaker is a nazi! 

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Re: German Pastor allowed to preach against anti Israel films boosts Nazism
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 05:50:23 AM »
She's a leftist it's the same thing
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Re: German Pastor allowed to preach against anti Israel films boosts Nazism
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 03:40:05 PM »
No offense, but any Kraut who calls me a nazi and compares the lives of spoiled barbarian arab savages who have made their own hell to the lives of Jews who were robbed, tortured and systemically executed by German savages, will get a nice taste of Kosher knuckle sandwich.

Considering, Germans massacred many of my relatives in Europe, I won't put up with any S*** from them. 

Or, if they start whining about all the money they are giving to us and how they have "paid their dues".  I will say the money you have given us hasn't even made up for all the Jewish wealth you stole that helped fund build up the Nazi regime.  Not to mention the 6,000,000 men, women and children your people murdered just 70 years ago.

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Re: German Pastor allowed to preach against anti Israel films boosts Nazism
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2013, 03:32:39 AM »
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                                                               :fist:


 Kol HaKavod EveryJewa44, your post is one of the best yet. Never Again!

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Re: German Pastor allowed to preach against anti Israel films boosts Nazism
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2013, 03:59:56 AM »
I think the most Germans realy feel a shame what there grandparents did to the Jewish people. I know some patriots from the GDL and they are realy good people and supporters of Israel.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2013, 04:11:20 AM »
No offense, but any Kraut who calls me a nazi and compares the lives of spoiled barbarian arab savages who have made their own hell to the lives of Jews who were robbed, tortured and systemically executed by German savages, will get a nice taste of Kosher knuckle sandwich.

Considering, Germans massacred many of my relatives in Europe, I won't put up with any S*** from them. 

Or, if they start whining about all the money they are giving to us and how they have "paid their dues".  I will say the money you have given us hasn't even made up for all the Jewish wealth you stole that helped fund build up the Nazi regime.  Not to mention the 6,000,000 men, women and children your people murdered just 70 years ago.

You got that right!!  The Germans stood by while all the Jews were viciously beaten and forced from their homes and did nothing!  Actually, they did do something -- they took over their apartments and stole all their belongings!  As far as I'm concerned, the only amends they can make is if they BRING BACK THE 6 MILLION!

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Re: German Pastor allowed to preach against anti Israel films boosts Nazism
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2013, 04:13:06 AM »
I think the most Germans realy feel a shame what there grandparents did to the Jewish people. I know some patriots from the GDL and they are realy good people and supporters of Israel.
Good for them!  Let's see how they would behave if they come for Jews again in their cities!

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2013, 04:16:47 AM »
You got that right!!  The Germans stood by while all the Jews were viciously beaten and forced from their homes and did nothing!  Actually, they did do something -- they took over their apartments and stole all their belongings!  As far as I'm concerned, the only amends they can make is if they BRING BACK THE 6 MILLION!

NEVER AGAIN!
I agree that the German people dindnt do enough to save the Jews. I must say the most Germans didnt had a choice. They where also victoms of nazism.
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2013, 04:22:31 AM »
I agree that the German people dindnt do enough to save the Jews. I must say the most Germans didnt had a choice. They where also victoms of nazism.
They didn't have a choice???  OH YES, MY FRIEND, THEY DID HAVE A CHOICE!!  And we know what choice they made, don't we?  Please!

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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2013, 04:29:27 AM »
They didn't have a choice???  OH YES, MY FRIEND, THEY DID HAVE A CHOICE!!  And we know what choice they made, don't we?  Please!
So you say, ALL the Germans had a choice??? Thousands of opponents of the regime where killed because they fight th regime. Are you anti-German?
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2013, 04:50:32 AM »
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So you say, ALL the Germans had a choice??? Thousands of opponents of the regime where killed because they fight th regime. Are you anti-German?
There's no question that I'm anti-Nazi Germany.  On the whole, they voted for the Nazi's and supported and cheered for the Nazi's.  The millions giving the Nazi salute to Hitler -- what was that?  Germans certainly didn't rise up, en masse, and say, "Wait a second!  What are you doing to our Jewish neighbors!"  WHERE WAS THE UPRISING?  No question that there were righteous gentiles.  But most Germans sat by while 6,000,000 Jews were marched out in public, and then murdered and tortured to death, and you want me to defend MYSELF???  Oy vey!  It's not me who needs explaining to do, believe me!

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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2013, 05:10:33 AM »
I think there is nothing wrong with the Germans now these days. Except for letting Islam into there beautifull country....
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Re: German Pastor allowed to preach against anti Israel films boosts Nazism
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2013, 09:00:07 AM »
This idea that Jews should make a difference between a German and a non-German in how much they excuse the sin of comparing the lives of fakestinian terrorists to Jews murdered in the Holocaust has some problems, I think. Germans today, especially those who weren't even alive during the Holocaust, have no more privileged access to the history of Nazi Germany and the Holocaust than than people from any other country. Everyone has equal access to the knowledge of what happened. Therefore, all who defame Zionism by making such a comparison should be equally unexcused, regardless of whether they are German or not.

It's like saying that white Americans deserve a black power fist in the mouth for comparing affirmative action to slavery but Swedes do not, since there was black slavery in America but not in Sweden.

And saying that the only way that today's Germans could make amends for the Holocaust is to bring back the 6 million is like saying that the only way white americans could make amends for the blacks killed in the slave trade is to bring back those blacks who were killed. Individuals should not have to bring back anyone unless they actually killed them.

However I do have great sympathy for the such feelings, and I would feel the same way!
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2013, 10:10:40 AM »
http://www.freeman.org/m_online/oct99/meinkampf.htm
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Re: German Pastor allowed to preach against anti Israel films boosts Nazism
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2013, 10:30:13 AM »
Great find, Dan!

If thefakestinians love the nazis so much, then let them inherit the guilt for the Holocaust. Much unlike them, the Germans have Holocaust denial laws.

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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2013, 11:37:50 AM »
Great find, Dan!

If thefakestinians love the nazis so much, then let them inherit the guilt for the Holocaust. Much unlike them, the Germans have Holocaust denial laws.
I like the idea the quranananimals and fashionable Bolsheviks are today's Nazis
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Re: German Pastor allowed to preach against anti Israel films boosts Nazism
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2013, 04:57:10 PM »
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It compares a Palestinian refugee camp in the West Bank with the Warsaw Ghetto during the Holocaust. In addition to the alleged demonization of Israel through the Nazi comparison, the pastor labeled the film anti-Semitic because in the film, a Jewish museum is charged with manipulating the Holocaust in order to steal land from the Palestinians.

This is a Nazi movie. How she got the idea in her head to press charges in court against the obvious facts. It is unbelievable.

btw sad that there is no time machine. Then she could be sent directly to Warsaw Ghetto in order to learn something about reality and not Nazi fiction comparison.
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