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Some of Jiminy Carters anti Jewish Bible Classes
« on: April 10, 2013, 11:39:21 AM »
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Wednesday, April 10, 2013
YU/Cardozo update - Carter gave anti-semitic Bible lessons, NYT coverage, more
The story made The New York Times:

    When editors of The Cardozo Journal of Conflict Resolution, a scholarly publication from the Benjamin N. Cardozo Law School, decided to bestow this year’s International Advocate for Peace award on former President Jimmy Carter, they sought to honor his decades as a mediator and humanitarian. But in the process, they ignited a sizable conflict of their own.

    That is because Cardozo is a part of Yeshiva University, an Orthodox Jewish institution where support for the state of Israel runs high. And among supporters of Israel, there are few figures more controversial than Mr. Carter, who has repeatedly criticized Israeli policy toward Palestinians and described their circumstances as apartheid.

    ...“Part of being a law school is being an open and diverse community with a cacophony of ideas which people are free to express,” Dr. Diller said Tuesday. But, he added, “we are part of a Jewish institution and we stand for Jewish values and commitments, and part of that is support for Israel.”

    Brian Farkas, the editor in chief of The Cardozo Journal of Conflict Resolution, said that the decision to honor Mr. Carter had been mischaracterized.

    He said he had spent the morning engaged in “respectful” discussion with members of the Jewish Law Students Association, and that plans were in the works for a future event that would offer differing perspectives on Mr. Carter’s work.

    He added that Mr. Carter, who was not available for comment, had agreed to take questions from students after his address on Wednesday afternoon.

Perhaps one of the students can ask Carter about his Sunday school lessons that were first revealed by Phyllis Chesler):

    As decades-old tapes from his Church Sunday school lessons reveal, former President Jimmy Carter’s bias against the Jewish state may come more from an old fashioned Christian animus toward Judaism than from concerns over the situation of Palestinians. Carter taught Christian students in Plains Georgia that Judaism teaches Jews to feel superior to non-Jews, that Jewish religious practices are tricks to enhance wealth, and that current Israeli policy toward Palestinians is based on these “Jewish” values and practices.

    In a series of sermons Carter recorded between 1999 and 2003 that were published as a CD set by Simon and Schuster called “Sunday Mornings in Plains,” Carter attacks modern Israel by retreading ancient anti-Semitic tropes that go back to the early church fathers and the Judaism/Christianity schism that gave birth to a millennia of Christian persecution of Jews.

    1. Jews hate and feel superior to non-Jews: In the tapes, one hears -- in Southern drawl -- his ancient animus: Jews hate non-Jews:

    “…this morning I’m gonna be trying to relate the assigned Bible lesson to us in the Uniformed Series with how that affected Israel and how it affects us through Christ personally… It’s hard for us to even visualize the prejudice against gentiles when Christ came on earth. If a Jew married a gentile, that person was considered to be dead. … How would you characterize from a Jew’s point of view the uncircumcised? Non believer? And what? Unclean, what? They called them DOGS! That’s true. … What was Paul’s feeling toward gentiles in his early life as a Jewish leader? [Paul was not a Jewish leader. Ed.] Anybody? Absolute commitment to persecution! To the imprisonment and even the execution of non-Jews who now professed faith in Jesus Christ. … We know the differences in the Middle East. But the differences there are between Jews on the one hand who comprise the dominating force both militarily and also politically and the Palestinians who are both Muslim and Christians. …”

    2. Jewish ritual sacrifice is a dodge that relieves one from taking care of one’s parents, while preserving one’s wealth:

    “Corban was a uh prayer that could be performed by usually a man in an endorsed ceremony by the Pharisees that you could say in effect, ‘God, everything that I own all these sheep all these goats this nice house and the money that I have, I dedicate to you, to God.’ And from then on according to the Pharisees law those riches didn’t belong to that person anymore. They were whose? God’s! So as long as those riches were belonged to the person, that person was supposed to share them with needy parents right? But once it was God’s it wasn’t theirs and they didn’t have anything to share with their parents. So with impunity, and approved by the Pharisaic law, they could avoid taking care of their needy parents by a trick that had been evolved by the incorrect and improper interpretation of the law primarily designed by religious leaders to benefit whom? The rich folks! The powerful people! Because the poor man wouldn’t have all of this stuff to give to God. He would probably, in fact he might very well have his parents in the house with him or still be living with his own parents.”

    3. Carter ties this Jewish feelings of superiority and religious malevolence to current Israeli policy:

    “One reason is that the Israeli government headed now by Netanyahu has to depend on the ultra-right or fundamentalist Jews to give them a majority in the parliament which they call the Knesset, and the recent resignation of foreign minister Levy has left Netanyahu with only one vote margin in the parliament. So the ultra-conservative Jewish leaders demand always that they have total control over anything that relates to religion inside Israel, in particular in Jerusalem. Well, I’m not here to condemn anyone but to point out that even within ourselves, there is an inclination for, I’d say, a feeling of superiority. Wouldn’t you think so? Would you agree? I know I have it.”

    Carter’s beef with the Jews is not simply a disagreement over how Israel should treat the Palestinians. His is a deep theological hatred of the type that most Christians (including the Vatican in the 1960s Nostra Aetate) have long disavowed. This is not the “new anti-Semitism: it’s the old. All the more indefensible for an orthodox Jewish religious institution to give this man an award.

As I've said in the past, I am reluctant to call people anti-semitic without serious proof. This is damning. (In the partial  transcript, which I unfortunately can no longer find online but which was emailed to me, Carter at one point criticizes biblical Judah - but calls it "Israel.")

Carter's admitting his own feeling of superiority and self-righteousness is accurate, at least. After all, he calls his group of crotchety yentas "The Elders" (without the irony that some others might employ in using that title.)

Here is his wonderful group being used as a prop by Hamas underneath a huge poster showing a map where Israel doesn't exist.


That same group happily attended an anti-Israel protest a couple of years back that effectively meant that Carter and his fellow "conflict resolution" peers agreed that Israel's legal system is illegitimate.

Is part of "conflict resolution" to allow yourself to be used by extremists on one side - or to openly embrace one side?
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Re: Some of Jiminy Carters anti Jewish Bible Classes
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2013, 12:08:17 PM »
I hope he suffers a fatal stroke the moment he steps onto the stage to receive the reward.

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Re: Some of Jiminy Carters anti Jewish Bible Classes
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2013, 01:11:51 PM »
I hate Obama more than you can imagine... but if there is one recent president who is more evil... its Jimmy Carter.

He said... after Obama told Israel to go back to its suicide border.... its a start... but its not enough.


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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2013, 02:41:52 PM »
Man them's some self-hating Jews.

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Re: Some of Jiminy Carters anti Jewish Bible Classes
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2013, 03:41:02 PM »
It is not shocking considering he is just expressing pure Christian bible-inspired Jew hatred. But of course I am only over-reacting...

And it is hypocritical for him to claim Jews feel superior when he himself feels superior to Jews because he accepts his 'messiah' and of course we Jews are incomplete and need to be fixed by the superior Christian do-gooders.. And of course the Muslims don't think they are superior, no they just set up a system of DHIMMITUDE which legally subjects Jews and Christians to second-class status... No the muslims don't think they are superior... Ummm Hmmm..

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Re: Some of Jiminy Carters anti Jewish Bible Classes
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013, 03:51:11 PM »
I think Jimminy should lodge a complaint to Jesus and maybe even reprimand him,cause Jiminy knows best      http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+15%3A21-28%2CMark+7%3A24-30&version=NIV 



Matthew 15:21-28

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The Faith of a Canaanite Woman

21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”

23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”

24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.

26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”   



Jiminy you fail

28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 07:17:26 PM »
It is not shocking considering he is just expressing pure Christian bible-inspired Jew hatred. But of course I am only over-reacting...

And it is hypocritical for him to claim Jews feel superior when he himself feels superior to Jews because he accepts his 'messiah' and of course we Jews are incomplete and need to be fixed by the superior Christian do-gooders.. And of course the Muslims don't think they are superior, no they just set up a system of DHIMMITUDE which legally subjects Jews and Christians to second-class status... No the muslims don't think they are superior... Ummm Hmmm..
Surely you know Occam's Razor, right? The simplest answer is the best. This is just a sick, evil anti-Semite who will dress up his hatred in any way that he can. If he is such a "pure Christian" why does he enthusiastically support abortion, sodomite "marriage", etc.?

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2013, 07:18:56 PM »
I think Jimminy should lodge a complaint to Jesus and maybe even reprimand him,cause Jiminy knows best      http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+15%3A21-28%2CMark+7%3A24-30&version=NIV 



Matthew 15:21-28

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The Faith of a Canaanite Woman

21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”

23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”

24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.

26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”   



Jiminy you fail

28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.
I don't think Jimmy-hat Farter cares about what Jesus thinks. If you can pull some Mohammedan verses out of that sack of used toilet paper called the Hadiths that tells people to leave Jews alone, maybe Dhimmi would heed that.

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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2013, 07:24:14 PM »
Man, I read a few sentences of this.  What the Cardozo school of so called Law is doing is just so so damn egregious.

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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2013, 07:30:12 PM »
Man, I read a few sentences of this.  What the Cardozo school of so called Law is doing is just so so damn egregious.
They worship at the altar of BHO, that's their problem.

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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2013, 08:42:02 PM »
They worship at the altar of BHO, that's their problem.

DBF,

I think it's beyond that. I don't know what's wrong with them. It's a total shonda.  I don't even know they sleep at night, giving other Jews, over the entire world a really hard middle finger, by giving respectability to that intolerant hateful Jew hating piece of drek

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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2013, 09:25:02 PM »
DBF,

I think it's beyond that. I don't know what's wrong with them. It's a total shonda.  I don't even know they sleep at night, giving other Jews, over the entire world a really hard middle finger, by giving respectability to that intolerant hateful Jew hating piece of drek
They don't have a real abiding faith in the L-rd so they have faith in every Jew-hating entity on the planet, because they feel they have no power of any kind and have to suck up to every one of their enemies in order to survive. BHO is just the biggest one at the moment.

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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2013, 09:38:51 PM »
They don't have a real abiding faith in the L-rd so they have faith in every Jew-hating entity on the planet, because they feel they have no power of any kind and have to suck up to every one of their enemies in order to survive. BHO is just the biggest one at the moment.

They don't have an abiding faith in common decency.  I mean if this isn't a F U to the Jewish people, I dont know what is.  This is one of those events that really makes me wonder, what the hell is wrong with us?????

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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2013, 10:27:00 PM »
Carter is a complete piece of s**t.   He's the worst of the worst; worse than Obama.  And, of course, most American Jews like him and would readily vote for him for president again. 

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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2013, 11:30:02 PM »
Carter is a complete piece of s**t.   He's the worst of the worst; worse than Obama.  And, of course, most American Jews like him and would readily vote for him for president again.

I think that's what sickens me the most.  We all know what Carter is... he doesn't even really try to hide it.. but the fact that so many Jews love Carter and Obama.... ughhh!!!