UN freak Ban Ki Moon making obscene noises

[cjd]

I am not sure because I don't have the latest 'Politically Correct Dictionary'... What edition is the latest PC dictionary? Is it the 10th edition? I don't know.

I believe Oriental is PC, why would it not be?

10th edition The way they keep revising things it would have to be something like the 361th edition

[muman613]

cjd,

I was attempting an allusion to the Orwell novel 1984... In that story the latest, most double-plus good version of the 'Newspeak Dictionary' was the 11th edition...

http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/ns-prin.html

"The Principles of Newspeak"
An appendix to 1984
Written by : George Orwell in 1948

Newspeak was the official language of Oceania, and had been devised to meet the ideological needs of Ingsoc, or English Socialism. In the year 1984 there was not as yet anyone who used Newspeak as his sole means of communication, either in speech or writing. The leading articles of the Times were written in it, but this was a tour de force which could only be carried out by a specialist, It was expected that Newspeak would have finally superseded Oldspeak (or standard English, as we should call it) by about the year 2050. Meanwhile, it gained ground steadily, all party members tending to use Newspeak words and grammatical constructions more and more in their everyday speech. The version in 1984, and embodied in the Ninth and Tenth Editions of Newspeak dictionary, was a provisional one, and contained many superfluous words and archaic formations which were due to be suppressed later. It is with the final, perfected version, as embodied in the Eleventh Edition of the dictionary, that we are concerned here.

The purpose of Newspeak was not only to provide a medium of expression for the world-view and mental habits proper to the devotees of IngSoc, but to make all other modes of thought impossible. It was intended that when Newspeak had been adopted once and for all and Oldspeak forgotten, a heretical thought -- that is, a thought diverging from the principles of IngSoc -- should be literally unthinkable, at least so far as thought is dependent on words. Its vocabulary was so constructed as to give exact and often very subtle expression  to every meaning that a Party member could properly wish to express, while excluding all other meaning and also the possibility of arriving at them by indirect methods. This was done partly by the invention of new words, but chiefly by eliminating undesirable words and stripping such words as remained of unorthodox meanings, and so far as possible of all secondary meaning whatever.

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From the 1984 Script...

OBrien:    Have you seen the  11th edition of the Newspeak Dictionary?

Winston:  No, we’re still using the 10th edition at Minrec.

OBrien:    A few advance copies have been segregated. I have one myself.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

[Israel Chai]

I am not sure because I don't have the latest 'Politically Correct Dictionary'... What edition is the latest PC dictionary? Is it the 10th edition? I don't know.

I believe Oriental is PC, why would it not be?

I prefer masta.

[Israel Chai]

By the way ack, asian women don't go to heaven. A baboon told me

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

What's wrong ephraim, are you going to accuse me of being a troll or something?

It is ridiculous that this is your response.

I know some Orientals (Chinese and Korean) who tell me that they support Israel, but many of them only say it and don't really mean it. I work with a good number of Chinese nationals and I have full respect of them. But I have noticed that they usually don't think too much against their government, because they still have family in China.

It is true, and I have even started threads about the great people involved with saving Jews from the Holocaust by bringing them to Shanghai and other provinces. That was commendable.

I wasn't saying you are a racist, I just felt that you had ulterior motives behind this post. You usually don't call people monkeys or baboons...

[Israel Chai]

I wasn't saying you are a racist, I just felt that you had ulterior motives behind this post. You usually don't call people monkeys or baboons...

The spirit of Ron lingers. I think racism against Asians is PC now, anyways. Join the club ack.

[muman613]

I wasn't saying you are a racist, I just felt that you had ulterior motives behind this post. You usually don't call people monkeys or baboons...

I was not aware of any ulterior motives, maybe subliminal.... But I do consider everyone who makes statements against Israel to be monkeys...

[muman613]

The spirit of Ron lingers. I think racism against Asians is PC now, anyways. Join the club ack.

You imply I was trying to make a racist comment against all Asians which was not my intention...

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Wow, you are right... Apparently they have changed the dictionary once again:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/oriental

ori·ental·ly adv.
Usage Note: Asian is now strongly preferred in place of Oriental for persons native to Asia or descended from an Asian people. The usual objection to Orientalmeaning "eastern"is that it identifies Asian countries and peoples in terms of their location relative to Europe. However, this objection is not generally made of other Eurocentric terms such as Near and Middle Eastern. The real problem with Oriental is more likely its connotations stemming from an earlier era when Europeans viewed the regions east of the Mediterranean as exotic lands full of romance and intrigue, the home of despotic empires and inscrutable customs. At the least these associations can give Oriental a dated feel, and as a noun in contemporary contexts (as in the first Oriental to be elected from the district) it is now widely taken to be offensive. However, Oriental should not be thought of as an ethnic slur to be avoided in all situations. As with Asiatic, its use other than as an ethnonym, in phrases such as Oriental cuisine or Oriental medicine, is not usually considered objectionable.


I will continue to use it because I intend no insult by using the term. I just used the term with a Vietnamese co-worker (who I thought was Korean)... To me all those with the racial characteristics of the 'Far East' (eyes, nose, lips) are considered Oriental to me...

I agree. Asian is not a race. I grew up calling them Oriental. It's just like blacks keep changing the name of their race.

Oriental seems less offensive than Mongols, which is what racial anthropologists called them. Or should we just call their race yellow? Their skin isn't yellow though. But white skin isn't really white either so maybe they don't mind being called yellow.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

I agree. Asian is not a race. I grew up calling them Oriental. It's just like blacks keep changing the name of their race.

Oriental seems less offensive than Mongols, which is what racial anthropologists called them. Or should we just call their race yellow? Their skin isn't yellow though. But white skin isn't really white either so maybe they don't mind being called yellow.

WHAT? THAT IS RACIST!

[Israel Chai]

You imply I was trying to make a racist comment against all Asians which was not my intention...

In a humorous fashion. You'd still be expelled from a school if you wrote that, but obviously I know your intention.

[angryChineseKahanist]

In your dreams.. The only thing I object to is racism, the irrational hatred of people due to their genetics.

I have stated this so many times that it should be clear. There are good and bad in every group. Indeed I have the pleasure of knowing many good people of many different races including all Europeans (French, Italian, Polish, Hungarian, Romanian, Norwegian, and German) and many orientals (Chinese, South Koreans, Vietnamese (the owner of the company is Vietnamese), Japanese, Phillipines) and many from the middle east (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Israel).... I can clearly state that all these peoples have good people among them. But there are also bad among them too. I have known many 'trailer trash' so-called whites who behave as bad or worse than the N*ggers. And believe me I use the N word liberally when it is deserved. All the gansta rappers are considered to be N*ggers by me, and I am considered by some to be racist due to this fact alone (and the fact I denigrate gangsta rap in network forums)....

But that said I do not consider a person a N because of his or her skin color, purely by their behavior. And I cannot in good conscience denigrate a whole race of people when I know for certain that there are good people of those races.

You think they are 'sacred' to me and that is completely ridiculous. Investigate all which I have written on this topic and discover that I am NOT a racist and yet I stand firm against negative social impacts of any people.

I fantasize about you everynight.

ok we're never going to get through each other.

if you look thru my history, you'll see I've mentioned a few time, I'm also a little dark.

So quit the bull about how I simply look at someone's skin and say ohh he's a little dark, he's bad.

[Israel Chai]

I fantasize about you everynight.

ok we're never going to get through each other.

if you look thru my history, you'll see I've mentioned a few time, I'm also a little dark.

So quit the bull about how I simply look at someone's skin and say ohh he's a little dark, he's bad.

I've got your back ack. And Muman... what is this about, exactly?

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

I fantasize about you everynight.

ok we're never going to get through each other.

if you look thru my history, you'll see I've mentioned a few time, I'm also a little dark.

So quit the bull about how I simply look at someone's skin and say ohh he's a little dark, he's bad.

OKAY, that's enough between you two. You both support Zionism, and by fighting over petty bullshiite we accomplish nothing! Also, by us attacking other races we scare away any conservatives that may not be white, that maybe looking our way...

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

I've got your back ack. And Muman... what is this about, exactly?

It's between them!!!

[Israel Chai]

It's between them!!!

I see mutual accusations of racism and love for other races. It's time to step in. Easy E.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

I see mutual accusations of racism and love for other races. It's time to step in. Easy E.

Wtf? You trying to [censored] me off?

[Israel Chai]

Wtf? You trying to [censored] me off?

Subconsciously, perhaps. Only with the last two words. You do purport yourself to be the defender of everything sometimes, which is what they were for.

[Israel Chai]

Hey Muman do you know of any video/audio debates between rabbis and atheists? I've been looking for those.

[angryChineseKahanist]

He [Mike] takes it personal for some reason.
I criticize public figures who expect to be praised and criticized.
I'm not fighting with him. But he doesn't see it that way.
Oh well.

[Israel Chai]

He [Mike] takes it personal for some reason.
I criticize public figures who expect to be praised and criticized.
I'm not fighting with him. But he doesn't see it that way.
Oh well.

I know you're not. I think he's fighting you with all the best intentions.

[Zelhar]

He [Mike] takes it personal for some reason.
I criticize public figures who expect to be praised and criticized.
I'm not fighting with him. But he doesn't see it that way.
Oh well.

But some of the things you say can be taken as racist because it looks like you generalize them to ALL blacks. It seems you don't think it is possible that a black man could act decent and be a moral person.

[Israel Chai]

But some of the things you say can be taken as racist because it looks like you generalize them to ALL blacks. It seems you don't think it is possible that a black man could act decent and be a moral person.

Ack is to funny to be racist.

[muman613]

What can I say here? I apologize to ACK if he was truly offended by what I said. There was no intention in my mind that this would be taken personally by ACK. I have always felt that ACK is a great JTF member who I respect. I do not make it a practice to say offensive things to people whom I consider a part of my 'virtual family'.

I have said all I want to say concerning my opinion of racism. None of the adjectives in the title of this thread were meant as racist or to be taken personally. All those who ask Israel to make suicidal concessions are considered by me to be 'animal like' and make 'animal noises'. The word Oriental, until I just learned, was not considered derogatory and simply refers to people from the 'Far East'.

So, ACK, please accept my apology for this misunderstanding. I don't care if you are 'dark' or 'light' or whatever, as a long time JTF member in good standing, I respect you and seek your forgiveness.

[Israel Chai]

What can I say here? I apologize to ACK if he was truly offended by what I said. There was no intention in my mind that this would be taken personally by ACK. I have always felt that ACK is a great JTF member who I respect. I do not make it a practice to say offensive things to people whom I consider a part of my 'virtual family'.

I have said all I want to say concerning my opinion of racism. None of the adjectives in the title of this thread were meant as racist or to be taken personally. All those who ask Israel to make suicidal concessions are considered by me to be 'animal like' and make 'animal noises'. The word Oriental, until I just learned, was not considered derogatory and simply refers to people from the 'Far East'.

So, ACK, please accept my apology for this misunderstanding. I don't care if you are 'dark' or 'light' or whatever, as a long time JTF member in good standing, I respect you and seek your forgiveness.

I believe that nobody is mad at you mums.