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Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« on: June 26, 2013, 03:31:34 PM »
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/Nelson-Mandelas-condition-deteriorates-on-life-support-system/articleshow/20776917.cms
Nelson Mandela's condition deteriorates, on life support system
Jun 26, 2013

JOHANNESBURG: Anti-apartheid icon Nelson Mandela has been kept on a life-support system following deterioration of his health condition at a South African hospital where the 94-year-old leader was admitted three weeks ago with a recurring lung infection.

"Ailing former President Nelson Mandela is on life support in the Pretoria Heart Clinic where he has been fighting a recurrent lung infection since June 8," The Citizen' newspaper reported.

According to the paper, five highly-placed sources close to the family, including two who had recently visited him in hospital, said that the iconic leader's health has deteriorated to the point where he is breathing with the assistance of a life support ventilator.

The revelation came as a group of elders of the AbaThembu clan, to which critically ill Mandela belongs, will assess his condition during a visit to his hospital today to decide on a course of action, according to the daily The Times here.

Another source told the daily that Mandela is suffering from kidney failure and is undergoing renal dialysis for three hours every second day.

"He is critical, but has an entire team of doctors, from a cardiac specialist, pulmonary specialist, kidney specialist and a main consultant looking after him," the source said, adding that the doctors have given the family the option to switch off the life support machines.

A meeting was called on Tuesday by Mandela's eldest daughter Makaziwe at his ancestral home in Qunu in the Eastern Cape province during which it was decided that that the elders and Mandela's confidantes would visit Mandela at the hospital.

The Afrikaans daily Beeld reported that two hours after the Mandela family meeting, a grave-digging machine was parked near the proposed graveyard where Mandela is likely to be buried.

However, reports from the Presidency only confirmed that Mandela remains in a critical conditions. As South Africans steeled themselves for the worst, the family turned to prayer.


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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013, 03:35:16 PM »
For all media saying how great Mandela was.
Mandela was a pro Palestinian terrorist supporter and Mandela condemned Israel for defending itself against Palestinian terrorism.


Nelson Mandela comments on death of Yasser Arafat on 11 Nov 2004

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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 03:37:28 PM »
http://www.jpost.com/middleeast/article.aspx?id=189574
Arafat ordered Hamas attacks against Israel in 2000
KHALED ABU TOAMEH
09/29/2010

Mandela's hero Arafat who finances massacres of kids.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1215299/posts
Arafat Paid Father of Dolphinarium Terrorist
Israel National News ^ | Sep 13, '04

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/476.htm
Arafat's Condolences to Dolphinarium Bomber's Family: The Heroic Martyrdom Operation'…'A Model of Manhood and Sacrifice

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=8&x_nameinnews=109&x_article=246
Maslama Thabet, leader of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades admits all orders to kill Israeli civilians comes from Arafat.

http://www.israelnewsagency.com/arafatterrorismisrael123115.html 
During the 12 year Civil War in Lebanon, caused by Yassir Arafat's assuming power through terror, his terrorists committed mass murder. Whole villages of Christians like Damour were massacred, chopped into pieces with machetes. Out of the 30,000 Christians, 10,000 were slaughtered by Arafat's PLO. The town was then occupied and kept as Arafat's stronghold. David Shipler of the New York Times wrote the story of Damour June 21, 1982. There were individual murders.! One horrific, but typical, example is when the Muktar (leader) of a village refused to be cooperative with Arafat and his terrorists. The Muktar's teenage daughter was abducted and raped. Her breasts were cut off and she was delivered to the doorstep of her father in a sack.


http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-singer111902.asp
Following the murderous terrorist attack on Kibbutz Metzer, the PLO cold-bloodedly stated on its official website, "We will continue to strike in any place, targeting their children as well." Five innocent Israelis, including a mother and her two little boys, were butchered in that attack, all of them, Fatah said, "Zionist colonizers" killed in a "qualitative operation in the settlement of Metzer."
 
Here's how the official Palestinian Authority newspaper Al-Hayat al-Jadida headlined its coverage: "Five Israelis killed in an attack on the settlement Metzer." The report continued, "A Palestinian infiltrated the settlement Metzer and opened fire on the settlers." It is not well known that the Palestinian press frequently refers to towns in Israel, such as Holon and Kiryat Shmona, as "settlements." Besides implying that a ll of Israel is an illegitimate colonial outpost, such references clearly are brought to justify the killings and distinguish them from terrorism. 
 
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/jeff/jacoby011003.asp
After the Tel Aviv massacre on January 12th 2003, where 2 Palestinian homicide bombers massacred 23 Israeli civilians. The PLO web site posted a statement -- celebrating the attacks: "With faith in the calling of holy jihad," it said, "two suicide attackers . . . succeeded this evening to infiltrate the Zionist roadblocks and to enter the heart of . . . Tel Aviv and carried out two consecutive suicide attacks... These suicide attacks caused a large number of fatalities and casualties in the center of the Zionist occupation of our land. We swear before our people that additional suicide operations will occur." That is a view with which much of Arab opinion concurs. ArabicNews.com, for ex ample, datelined its story on the Tel Aviv attack "Palestine-Israel," and reported that the bombings had killed "23 Israeli settlers."

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Did-Israel-kill-Yasser-Arafat
Did Israel kill Yasser Arafat?
ITAMAR MARCUS, NAN JACQUES ZILBERDIK11/26/2012
And if so, was it justified?
Nov 26, 2012

Did Israel kill Yasser Arafat? That is the question being discussed as the Palestinian Authority exhumes his body this week for French prosecutors investigating his death. This follows the announcement by a Swiss institute that they found remnants of the poison polonium on Arafat’s clothes.

However, the more fundamental questions are why would Israel have wanted to kill Arafat and would it have been justified. The assessment must be based on the objective data as to Arafat’s role at the time. Was he just a political leader or was he also an archterrorist leading the most systematic and deadly terror war that Israel ever faced? Yasser Arafat died in November 2004 after four years of a PA terror campaign, also called the second intifada. One thousand Israelis had already been murdered in attacks coming from PA territory under Arafat’s leadership.

Was Arafat directing this terror campaign? If so, he would belong in the same category as terror leaders like Osama bin Laden and Hamas leader Ahmad Yassin, who were killed by the US and Israel respectively, as measures in the war on terror being fought by democracies.

Evidence abounds that Arafat was the force behind the terror war against Israel. First, the PA actively promoted terror and glorified terror through the structures under Arafat’s control.

PA-owned official TV was used repeatedly to call for killing Jews in the name of Islam.

For example, Ahmed Yusuf Abu Halabiah, a Palestinian religious leader, preached on PA TV: “The Jews are the Jews ... it is necessary to slaughter them and murder them, according to the words of Allah ... It is forbidden to have mercy in your hearts for the Jews in any place and in any land ... Any place that you meet them – kill them ... Have no mercy on the Jews, murder them everywhere.” (PA TV, October 13, 2000) Likewise PA cleric Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Madi preached: “I was delighted when a youth said to me: ‘Oh, Sheikh, I am 14 years old, I have four more years, and then I will blow myself up among Allah’s enemies’ ... We blow them up in Hadera, we blow them up in Tel Aviv and in Netanya ... they will not be deterred except by the color of the blood of their filthy people. They will not be deterred unless we blow ourselves up willingly and voluntarily among them.” (PA TV, August 3, 2001) Then as now, PA TV was the official PA mouthpiece and controlled by the PA leadership.

It is impossible that ongoing directives like these to kill Israelis/Jews could have been expressed regularly for four years unless Arafat wanted it.

A second indicator that Arafat supported the killings was the way the PA honored those who succeeded in killing Israelis, including suicide bombers. For example, PA TV repeatedly broadcast a song-tribute honoring Wafa Idris, the first female suicide bomber, who killed one and wounded more than 150 Israelis: “My sister Wafa ... Oh the heartbeat of pride, Oh blossom who was on earth and is now in Heaven. Allah Akbar! [Allah is greater] ... you chose Martyrdom. In death you have brought life to the aspiration.”

The PA leaders actively gave their stamp of approval for murders that were committed by all the various terror organizations. In 2003, the PA Ministry of Education held the Abd al-Baset Udeh football tournament for 14-year-olds, named after the suicide terrorist who killed 31 at the Passover celebration in Netanya. Each team in the tournament was named after a different terrorist. (Al-Hayat Al- Jadida January 21, 2003) Another example was when the PA held a football tournament, sponsored by the top PA leadership including Arafat, Saeb Erekat, the Mufti, the minister of sport and others. The event honored the “Martyrs of the Palestinian National Struggle” and the teams were named after 24 “martyrs,” including: Hamas bomb-maker Yahya Ayyash; head of the terrorist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine Abu Ali Mustafa; Fatah’s Dalal Mughrabi, whose bus hijacking killed 37, and 21 other “martyrs.”

Had the PA not supported suicide terror and not wanted to encourage more terror, as some Arafat apologists claim, these sermons inciting murder and genocide would not have been preached on official PA TV by PA clerics, suicide bombers like Idris would not have been honored by official PA TV, and sporting events glorifying terrorists like Udeh would not have been held by the PA Ministry of Education. And these are only representative examples among many.

More evidence that Arafat and the PA were actively directing the terror war is found in the testimonies of PA leaders themselves, both during the campaign and since its conclusion.

In 2002, the year 452 Israelis were murdered by Palestinian terror, Mazen Izzadin, deputy director of PA National Education, said proudly on PA TV that Arafat was directing the entire campaign: “The Al-Aqsa intifada – if we want to be truthful and open, history will reveal one day – that it [the intifada] and all its directives belong to the President and Supreme Commander Yasser Arafat.” (PA TV, May 28, 2002) Ashraf al-Ajrami, former PA minister of prisoners, likewise credited Arafat with being responsible for the terror war: “The master of resistance is, without doubt ... Yasser Arafat. Even this intifada, whose flag Hamas has tried to wave unjustly, forcibly, falsely and fraudulently – that flag belongs to Yasser Arafat alone ... The greatest number of [Palestinian] prisoners is from the [PA] security forces [under Arafat]. They are the ones who bore arms and carried out the greatest and most important [military] operations.”

(PA TV June 29, 2009) More than once, PA leaders have emphasized Arafat’s duplicitous strategy of condemning the terror as part of a facade to please the West and conceal his responsibility and at the same time orchestrate it and encourage Palestinian terror.

Sultan Abu al-Einein, currently an advisor to PA chairman Mahmoud Abbas, explained: “Yasser Arafat used to condemn martyrdom operations [i.e., suicide attacks]. He used to condemn these operations in very severe terms, but at the same time, it is clearly determined that the martyr Yasser Arafat financed these military operations." (Al-Quds TV, April 6, 2009) Muhammad Dahlan, then member of the Fatah Central Committee, also highlighted Arafat’s successful deception strategy: “Arafat would condemn [military] operations [i.e., terror attacks] by day while at night he would do honorable things. I don’t want to say any more about this.” (PA TV, July 22, 2009) Even the current PA chairman, Mahmoud Abbas, has admitted publicly that Arafat and the Palestinian Authority were the ones who ordered the killings. During a PA TV interview, Abbas argued for the release of all terrorists in Israeli prisons, saying: “I demand [the release of] prisoners because they are human beings, who did what we, we, ordered them to do. We – the [Palestinian] Authority. They should not be punished while we sit at one table negotiating. This is war. One [i.e., Israel] ordered a soldier to kill, and I ordered my son, brother, or others, to carry out the duty of resistance. This person killed and the other person killed.” (PA TV, February 14, 2005) Significantly, Abbas admitted that it was “we” – the PA led by Arafat – who had given the orders to kill. The killers according to Abbas were merely following orders, and “did what we, we, ordered them to do.”

Arafat, according to Abbas himself, had instructed his people that killing Israelis, even civilians, was their “duty of resistance.”

So was Arafat the leader of the terror war responsible for the murder of over 1,000 Israeli civilians. His religious leaders called to kill Jews. His social frameworks and media glorified those who succeeded in murdering Israelis. Abbas said Arafat “ordered them... to kill” and al-Einein said Arafat “condemned” and “financed” the same suicide bombings.

In fact, the people closest to Arafat and the current internal Palestinian narrative, unanimously credit Arafat with the decision to start the terror war and the overall responsibility for the killings.

Did Israel kill Arafat? We may never know, but that is not the critical question. What is important is that Arafat’s role as the terror leader made him no different than the other terrorists who pulled the triggers or detonated suicide belts. The year was 2004. Over 1,000 Israelis had already been murdered under Arafat’s guidance and direction. Arafat wasn’t just a political leader during a conflict; he was leading a terror war that was targeting and murdering civilians at every opportunity.

There was ample justification if Israel had wanted to kill him.

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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 04:01:36 PM »
Sure made my day! I feel GOOD!

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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2013, 04:17:54 PM »
Well considering he's on life support. Chances are, he won't last much longer.

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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 04:24:22 PM »
Well considering he's on life support. Chances are, he won't last much longer.

Unless he is a zombie.... Considering how evil this man was he could be undead...

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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 04:24:51 PM »
Lets play over under. I say under 3 days.

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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2013, 05:18:40 PM »
Unless he is a zombie.... Considering how evil this man was he could be undead...

Well undead or not. He'll soon join his boyfriend, Yasser Arafat.

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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2013, 05:26:43 PM »
Now close you'r eyes Mandela, you communist son of a b*tch!
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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2013, 05:28:07 PM »
Unless he is a zombie.... Considering how evil this man was he could be undead...


I guess he's a zombie because isn't that some African voodoo nonsense? Or maybe he should be called a Zulu.

What about the Durban pro-racism conference held in South Africa right before September 11, 2001?

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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2013, 06:48:26 PM »
My best guess is that he'll be dead by tomorrow night or the morning after that
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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2013, 07:21:57 PM »
ahh c'mon stop teasing us!
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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2013, 07:56:45 PM »


I guess he's a zombie because isn't that some African voodoo nonsense? Or maybe he should be called a Zulu.

What about the Durban pro-racism conference held on South Africa right before September 11, 2001?


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A zombie (Haitian Creole: zonbi; North Mbundu: nzumbe) is an animated corpse resurrected by mystical means, such as witchcraft.[1] The term is often figuratively applied to describe a hypnotized person bereft of consciousness and self-awareness, yet ambulant and able to respond to surrounding stimuli. Since the late 19th century, zombies have acquired notable popularity, especially in North American and European folklore.

In modern times, the term "zombie" has been applied to an undead being in horror fiction, often drawing from the depiction of zombies in George A. Romero's 1968 film Night of the Living Dead.[2][3] They have appeared as plot devices in various books, films, television shows, video games and comics.

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According to the West African tenets of Vodou, a dead person can be revived by a bokor, or sorcerer. Zombies remain under the control of the bokor since they have no will of their own. "Zombi" is also another name of the Vodou snake lwa Damballah Wedo, of [censored]–Congo origin; it is akin to the Kikongo word nzambi, which means "god". There also exists within the West African Vodun tradition the zombi astral, which is a part of the human soul that is captured by a bokor and used to enhance the bokor's power. The zombi astral is typically kept inside a bottle which the bokor can sell to clients for luck, healing or business success. It is believed that after a time God will take the soul back and so the zombi is a temporary spiritual entity.[4] It is also said in vodou legend, that feeding a zombie salt will make it return to the grave.

The idea of zombies is present in some South African cultures. In some communities it is believed that a dead person can be turned into a zombie by a small child.[5] It is said that the spell can be broken by a powerful enough sangoma.[6]

It is also believed in some areas of South Africa that witches can turn a person into a zombie by killing and possessing the victim's body in order to force it into slave labor.[7] After rail lines were built to transport migrant workers, stories emerged about "witch trains". These trains appeared ordinary, but were staffed by zombie workers controlled by a witch. The trains would abduct a person boarding at night, and the person would then either be turned into a zombie worker, or beaten and thrown from the train a distance away from the original location.[7]
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Re: Its party time. Mandela on life support system
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2013, 08:08:57 PM »
I hope that he dies before Obama gets there.