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Yekutiel:
Concerning the shul and the media insanity. Basically, at an early stage of the building of the shul in Tapuach West, HaIvri, Marzel and Itamar Ben Gvir decided to take advantage of the lovely photo ops they can have from the huge shul being built on the hill. They all decided to place interviews and to give the SCOOP to various reporters. You see that's how it owrks with the media and with thoe who thrive on media coverage and gimmicks. You give info to teh media, and they give you info and a picture and a headline.

Suddenly I hear about the interviews and their content. The right wing extremists are building a college where Jews will be taught to kill Arabs or whatever. I remember hearing about How Marzel and Ben Gvir would be professors in teh college when i turned on the radio. I was building a shul in memory of the Kahanes and did plan on setting up an international center. I did not plan on giving the authorities false and exagerated information that they could use to bury us at that stage. People who had nothing to do with the shul, the planning, the goals decide on their own to make headlines at the expense of the unfinished project. I thought it was wrong and destructive.

I dont blame them for the destruction. The Israeli government neeed to be blamed. That does not mean that I dont feel their behavior was wrong, and it does not mean that I dont think their behavior was destructive. When you chasse cameras you tend to get burned, from time to time. If you chase cameras on your own projects, that is your judgement call. In thi scase it was not their call. This is one of the reasons that I limit their involvment in the planning stages of important and major projects that I organize. And when I dont, I always learn to regret it.

I am looking to do things, not to read about it. Yossie Dayan once gave a lecture and Marzel supported his conclusions when he said, if you did something and nobody read about it in the papers then you did nothing. But if you did nothing and people think you did something, then you did something.

I wanted to build a Kahane center not to have a shortlived gimmick or headline. Sorry, I dont agree with their philosophy. Sure, Rav Kahane used the media and gimmicks but that was not his essence. The moment people get carried away with the fame and the lights an dthe camera it comes at the expense of getting things done, especially in Israel,where the vultures will cut us down whenever they can.

I know the truth hurts. However, it hurts more when the deception blows up in ones face.

I believe in doing. For five years we supplied dogs to vulnerable towns and trained canines and volunteer handlers as well as security people from all over Yesha. We even gave 3-4 dogs to Noam Federman. Tjis was not a media gimmick. This was real life and is real life in spite of the government raids and confiscations. We prevented terrorist attacks, with God's help. It is a program on the ground. I  am not bragging and i will be the frist to tell you it is a small project but a real project. It survives because of the dedication of people who truly wish to save lives in Israel. It is boring to clean sh..t all day.

The referendum is another project on the ground. Over 100,000 Jews participated thus far. It is longterm and boring, but more and more Jews will sign on to "overthrow" the government through a referendum. It is a platform for us to articulate the Jewish alternative.

I am not opposed to gimmicks but that does not mean that I think that the gimmick approach is teh only approach. It doe snot mean that I wish to forfeit the programs that we are active in implementing on the   ground. I respect Marzel, Revava, and the others but that does not mean it is my way or that I should stop these programs that were initially launched by Rav Kahane, because Marzel or others are convinced that Rav Kahane was wrong on the referendum etc..

On this one, I prefer to side with Rav Kahane and his approach. Dont accuse me of making a aplit. Accuse rav Kahane.

Yekutiel:
yes he was not wearing diapers in 1990, but he also was not chairman of the board of Kach, or a staff member at 13. Did he ever meet Rav Kahane?

JTFrulez:
Yekutiel says KACH board was fired by Rabbi Kahane?
Yekutiel claims Chaim Ben Pesach is a LIAR when he decisively says the opposite?

We also know that different conspiracy theories surfaced some time after the murder of Rabbi Kahane
claiming Rabbi Kahane was not murdered by a VICIOUS ARAB NAZI SCUMBAG El-Sayyid Nosair but by the
KACH BOARD which was allegedly fired by the Rabbi just before the murder.

Who was the instigator of these rumors that caused such vicious and baseless accusations?

nikmatdam:
whoa back up guys... start from the beg. what went down and who did what when...? line up all the factions and the characters in this drama on one page and describe what they did and who they are trying to be today... nik.

jsullivan:
At a time when Israel is in such grave danger, I don't think we should be wasting so much time on this bickering.  I bet that if Chaim saw this thread, he would ask Yacov or me to lock it.

JTF has made its position clear.  We disagree with what Yekutiel did after the Rabbi's murder.  We support the former Kach movement. 

On the other hand, Yekutiel has made his position clear.

What else is there to add?  People can decide for themselves whom they agree with.

We do not want to continue this endless argument, and we hope that Yekutiel feels the same way.

We have differences of opinion with Yekutiel, but he is a good Jew.  We have no desire to keep feuding about the past.

Let's start focusing on what we can do to save Israel.

At least, that's my opinion.

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