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Giulio Meotti; A modern Rabbi Kahane? COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT
« on: September 25, 2013, 01:29:18 AM »
As time passes it seems that Mr. Meotti has gone full blown Kahanist because virtually everything he writes on Arutz Sheva sounds like it might have been something our great Rabbi Kahane (May his blood be avenged soon!) would say... Some of the comments on A7 also notice this.



http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/13870#.UkJzJ4aJAy0

Collective Punishment
There is a form of collective punishment for terror acts that the writer claims is morally justified.
From Giulio Meotti

An Israeli soldier, a young, wonderful and smiling Jew, was abducted and executed in Qalqilya by despicable Arabs. Monsters wanted to use the body of that Jew to release another monster jailed in Israel.

During the first Intifada, Arab terrorists from Qalqilya burned Ofra Moses and her small children to death. It was not different from a pogrom.

And it was nothing new. In the years following the creation of the State of Israel, the town of Qalkilya was one of the worst vipers’ nests of Arab genocidal passions.

In 2006 another Jew was torched and dismembered in Qalqilya. His name was Daniel Yaakovi, he was a doctor from the nearby "settlement" of Yakir.

"This is a message of fire -- a burning message to the occupation. Killing, burning and fire", Fatah's armed wing claimed after the killing. Another Jew had been  turned into a burned corpse by Qalqilya's terrorists.

Qalqilya is a strategic town 12 miles distant from Tel Aviv and less than five minutes from Kfar Saba. Qalqilya is not like more isolated Nablus (Shechem), it is shoulder to shoulder with the pre-1967 Israeli towns.

The city has been called the “Paradise Hotel”, because it was used by suicide terrorists as the jumping off point into Israel.

You don't become "the terrorists' hub", as Qalqilya has been named, without the complicity of the local population and infrastructures. The Palestinian Arabs aren’t hostages; they chose terrorism freely, they love killing Jews, so must live with the consequences.

Terror is a collective punishment, Israel's answer to it must include collective punishment.

Israel should flatten entire neighborhoods of Qalqilya if its Arab residents destroy innocent Jewish lives as happened last week.

Israel should also erase the houses of the terrorists, confiscate their properties and deport their families.

This is what the Allies did during the war, when they didn't hesitate to impose a collective punishment on the German and Japanese people (Dresden was levelled), while today we like to believe that the State of Israel is facing "individual murderers" and unorganized "fanatics", and must pardon the Islamic society that nurtures them.

The Arab population of Judea, Samaria and Gaza living in the communities that spawn repeated terror is responsible for that Muslim terrorism. Collective punishment of that population by Israel  - when administered in proportion to the evils it is meant to combat - is justified.

When terrorism is perpetrated against the Jewish people, it is justified to wage war against the population from which the terrorists emerged, and that sometimes includes harming civilians who did not actively participate in the terrorist acts themselves.

It doesn't mean the taking of human lives, but destroying properties and morally subjugating the environment that supports them. This is deterrence.

Protection of human life from barbaric terrorism comes before political correctness. This is what I would say to Israel's leaders if I were the father of Tomer Hazan or Daniel Yaakovi.
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Re: Giulio Meotti; A modern Rabbi Kahane? COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2013, 03:40:51 AM »
I am also very impressed by his devotion to truth and justice and his no-nonsense approach. I am curious to know what he writes in the Italian "Il Foglio".

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Re: Giulio Meotti; A modern Rabbi Kahane? COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2013, 06:38:55 AM »
I am also very impressed by his devotion to truth and justice and his no-nonsense approach. I am curious to know what he writes in the Italian "Il Foglio".
Here you have some that automatically translate            https://www.google.com/search?q=Il+Foglio&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs#channel=rcs&q=Il+Foglio+giulio+meotti&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial
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Re: Giulio Meotti; A modern Rabbi Kahane? COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2013, 03:49:14 PM »
Here is a short interview with Mr Meotti. He says "Il Foglio" is the only pro Israel newspaper in Italy and that it's a small circulation newspaper but one that is read by most of the influential people there.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11898#.UkM6dR91dgI

Published: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:03 AM
The writer decided to Interview regular A7 columnist and international journalist, Giulio Meotti: "Israel is a promise of redemption for humanity." A glimpse into the thoughts of a "righteous gentile".


“Tiny Israel should matter greatly to the Western world, as it has become the most imperiled member of our civilization. The Jewish condition today is again the focal point of huge identity battles. Judaism is the source of humanity, law, morality, democracy, and thus, a beacon of hope for all. This is the most important single defining issue of our time. I wonder what will happen to other democracies if Israel goes under.


“The national rebirth in its original homeland of a people threatened with extinction for three thousand years should represent – especially in the eyes of Western civilization – a promise of redemption for all humanity. This is the more so since this people’s arid and small country – on the borders between survival and destruction – is in the middle of a region that violently contests its right to exist. One does not have to be Jewish to understand that.”

Giulio Meotti is an Italian journalist and author. He holds a degree in Philosophy and is an editor at the daily Il Foglio. In 2010, he published A New Shoah, The Untold Story of Israel’s Victims of Terrorism.

“There were several reasons that I wrote The New Shoah. I believe in Western values and thus in the safety of the State of Israel. I am writing from Europe, a continent that is witnessing a major wave of monstrous new and radical anti-Semitism and the delegitimization of Israel's right to exist.

"This signals the risk of a major avalanche in Western society and perhaps even its fall. I also had a mission: rescuing Israeli victims from oblivion, giving them a name and a place by saving their stories.

“I spent six years tracking down Israeli witnesses to terrorist atrocities between 1994 and 2010, the so called ‘Oslo wars’. I interviewed people who survived attacks as well as family members of victims who did not.

"I experienced very difficult moments and even thought about abandoning the project. It was a labor of six years of relentless determination, loneliness and perhaps, obsessive moral commitment.

“I did not write A New Shoah as an archival reminder, but rather as the reliving of a smaller-scale Shoah. This was not the genocide of millions of people killed merely because they were Jews living in Europe, but the murder of many individuals killed because they were Jews living in Israel.

"It is an immense black hole that in fifteen years has swallowed up 1,557 innocent men, women and children and left more than 17,000 injured. I offer this book as a memorial chant for the martyred Jews which will transmit Israel's story to future generations. It is a rare document and I hope one will read these stories repeatedly in the next decades toward the celebration of Israel’s centennial anniversary.

“I knew I was going to pay a heavy price for publishing such a book. Nowadays to mention Israel in Italy in friendly tones, especially in journalistic and academic circles, is to risk facing a firestorm of condemnations. Or worse, personal attacks. I was called an ‘agent of Israel, ‘a hardcore Zionist dumba,’ ‘despicable,’ ‘right-wing garbage,’ ‘Shylock’ and so on.

"A photo with my face and the Star of David impressed on it was published on Arab internet sites. I received threatening emails like: ‘Dear feces-eating insect, continue to scratch around the Zionist dung, the hasbara will give you thirty coins.’

"But I remain proud of the work I do. My son and this book are the main justifications of my existence.

“The daily Il Foglio which I write for has a small circulation, but all key people in Italian society read it. It is the only pro-Israel newspaper in Italy.

"During the Second Intifada in the worst months of 2002, Palestinian suicide murderers attacked Israeli hotels, shopping malls restaurants, etc. They killed hundreds of innocent people. Il Foglio then called for a rally in Rome in favor of Israel. Thousands of people, many waving Israeli flags, gathered at sunset at Rome's City Hall atop the Capitoline Hill and made their way along the river Tiber to the main synagogue.

“Some held banners saying: ‘We’re With Israel.’ Other marchers placed pebbles around the synagogue, a gesture recalling the Jewish custom of marking a grave. Israeli flags flew from windows in the neighborhood. Il Foglio made all this possible and fought a historic battle in favor of truth, justice and the honor of the West, to which Israel belongs.

“In 2005, Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for the first time called to remove the State of Israel from the map. Il Foglio’s editor Giuliano Ferrara appealed for a public protest, saying that Italians should demonstrate ‘to defend the right of Israel to exist.’ This time the demonstration was in front of Iran’s embassy in Rome. Politicians from the left and right took part. It was a wonderful night. Israel and the Jews knew that they were not alone.”

That is Giulio Meotti - in a nutshell.

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Re: Giulio Meotti; A modern Rabbi Kahane? COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2013, 06:29:52 PM »
Giulio Meotti is  basically saying Israel needs a leader that will have consequences for Arab and Muslim terrorism against Jews.

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Re: Giulio Meotti; A modern Rabbi Kahane? COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2013, 07:34:48 PM »
Most american jews favor The New York Nazi Time's Nicholas Kristof and his anti Israel ramblings to Mr. Meotti. 
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