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Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the horn, and the people be not warned, and the sword do come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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Re: Someone please convince me Obamo is not Satan!
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2013, 06:18:31 PM »
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 Maybe Obama is not "satan" but instead his mentor!

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Re: Someone please convince me Obamo is not Satan!
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2013, 10:03:49 PM »
that's right. satan would be jelous of obongo.
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Re: Someone please convince me Obamo is not Satan!
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 01:52:14 AM »
Ovomit is Satan incarnate

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Re: Someone please convince me Obamo is not Satan!
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 02:32:32 AM »
Ovomit is Satan incarnate

This runs counter to what I was about to offer as an opinion...

This last week in the Torah portion we read about the conflict between the evil Essau, and his brother Jacob.

Jacob, in the beginning of the portion, is left alone all night and wrestled with a 'man' who the sages have always identified as an 'ANGEL', more specifically the arch-angel of the wicked Essau.

This arch-angel of Essau is also identified by some sages as HaSatan (The Satan) as he is the force of evil.

But this angel is also identified by the name 'Israel' because after Jacob had wrestled with him, and defeated him, the angel told Jacob his name from then on would be 'Israel', which means to Struggle with Hashem, and to win.

The Satan, in Jewish belief, is a force which leads us to doubt our faith in the power of Hashem. So in reality Obama is acting as Satan, while at the same time providing us Jews (and righteous Gentiles) to stand up for what is right and to shine our light (the light Jews shine to the nations) to expose this.



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Torah Attitude: Parshas Vayishlach: The tactics of the Satan

Summary

Yacov prepared himself for his encounter with Esau on the way back to the land of Israel. The one who attacked Yacov was not a human being but the guardian angel of Esau who is the Satan himself. "The voice is the voice of Yacov and the hands are the hands of Esau." Everything is based on the first three Sefirot, Chesed (kindness), Gevurah (might) and Tiferes (beautiful harmony of Chesed and Gevurah). As the dawn broke Yacov managed to get the Satan to bless him. We must emulate our Patriarch Yacov and strengthen ourselves, and in this way we will merit to see the break of dawn with the coming of Moshiach.

Yacov's encounter with Esau

In this week's parasha, the Torah relates how Yacov prepared himself for his encounter with Esau on the way back to the land of Israel. When Yacov's messengers returned and told him that Esau came towards him with four hundred men he became very scared. He prayed to G'd that He rescue him, and at the same time he sent lavish presents to appease his brother. Finally, he prepared himself for the worst scenario, in case Esau would attack him. The Torah describes how in the middle of the night Yacov crossed the ford of Yabbok with his whole family and all their possessions. But Yacov returned to where they had just come from. Rashi quotes the Talmud (Chulin 91a) that explains that he returned to fetch some earthenware that he had forgotten.

Satan the guardian angel of Esau

While Yacov was all by himself he was attacked by someone, as it says (Bereishis 32:25-26): "And a man wrestled with him till the break of dawn. And when he saw that he could not overpower him, he struck the socket of his hip." Rashi quotes from the Bereishis Rabba (77:3) that the attacker was not a human being but the guardian angel of Esau who is the Satan himself. As such, this fight represents the constant struggle the Jewish people has with Satan who challenges us all the time through our evil inclinations. This struggle will continue and intensify as we get closer to the dawn of our final salvation.

The voice of Yacov, the hands of Esau

The Zohar (Bereishis 171a) elaborates on this and explains in great detail why the Satan attacked Yacov. The Zohar quotes what Isaac said (Bereishis 27:22): "The voice is the voice of Yacov and the hands are the hands of Esau." The deeper meaning of this is, says the Zohar, that as long as the voice of Yacov studying Torah continues, the hands of Esau are powerless. But if the voice of Yacov is slacking or is interrupted, then the hands of Esau have the power to rule over Yacov and his descendants. Esau's angel, the Satan, therefore tried every possible way to interfere with the study of Torah of Yacov and his offspring.

Chesed, Gevurah & Tiferes

The Kabbalists explain that everything is based on the first three Sefirot, Chesed (kindness), Gevurah (might) and Tiferes (beautiful harmony of Chesed and Gevurah). Graphically, Tiferes is described as the main body with Chesed as the right arm and Gevurah as the left one. The Satan wrestled with the main body of Yacov, representing the Torah scholars, without any success. Whatever he tried, he saw that the Torah scholars could not be distracted from their study by any direct attack. He then tried to get a hold on the right arm, representing those who do acts of Chesed with their lovingkindness and charity. But again he did not succeed. He realized that the act of lovingkindness is so ingrained in the Jewish people that he had no chance to stop them from doing chesed. As the descendants of our Patriarch Abraham, who was the epitome of chesed, performing acts of lovingkindness, such as taking care of the sick and providing for the needy, is part and parcel of our Jewish lifestyle. Next the Satan tried to attack the left arm representing spiritual might that is based on fear of G'd. However, the Jewish people are also descendants of our Patriarch Isaac who excelled in his fear of G'd to the extent that Yacov, at the end of last week's Parasha (Bereishis 31:42) refers to G'd as "the Fear of Isaac". As such, we are strong in our fear of G'd.
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