My acceptance on homosexuality is based on my opinion.
I don't think that the Torah prohibition intended to condemn homosexuality for the people who were born that way.
I think the Torah condemnation of homosexual is intended for:
a)Some straight men that commit homosexual acts
b)Preventing society ever becoming like Anciant Greece was.
c) Getting rid of paedophillia with boys
If I had a son who or a husband who became a homosexual, I would be extremely upset.
I don't live in Tel Aviv itself. I am in a neighbouring town, which is right on the border of Orthodox Bene Brak.
Admittedly I don't like the modern obsession with homosexuality...But I really believe these people can not chose who they feel attracted to.
I didn't mean to come off as cocky.
I really am sympathetic to OP because I have given up speaking politics with my family for the same reason.
What is are your views?
I mean would you just get rid of gay parades in Israel and gay stuff on TV, or would you actually arrest 2 adults for what they do at home in private.
1. Nobody is born homosexual. The gay gene has been proven as junk science by every honest researcher, and, being related to a geneticist, I can provide you with hard facts on it. They are trying to use the brain now that this argument has failed, but unfortunately, they recently celebrated knowing .1% about the brain, which is a speculation that there is 99.9% left to know, so they know nothing. Angry and sad people display brain differences, but a girl's clothes on a baby boy do not alter the brain chemistry, and even if it did, the explanation is clearly not that they are born different, but that this behavior is affecting their mental state.
2. The Torah prohibition has many aspects, but another I learned last week was that it involves behaving like Egyptians. They would have sex with their mothers and the same sex because they were the ultimate self-centered society, and it doesn't take much to go out of your comfort zone, because you know how people like you will behave, so it doesn't require to give up too much of yourself to make a spiritual union, unlike with a stranger from the opposite sex, where you have to give up a lot of the things you are used to in order to make the relationship work. From this we can take the fact that it is a purely physical, and not spiritual union, and therefore, is an abomination on the holiest union in nature, between a man and a woman. The abomination judgment is general, so it also applies to the nefesh, or soul, since that essentially denies the manhood of the soul and makes the body further confused, and not only is it living in an illusion like everyone, the illusion is now an incorrect one, and it is very hard to work your way out of that, and achieve higher levels of spirituality. Most other reasons I know are kabbalistic, so I won't touch on that book here, but a good rabbi could probably name 80 reasons and 80 explanations with reasons for each one.
3. It's true, some people are given a very difficult test in life, and the 0.00001% of the male world that was born mutated with feminine parts will find it very tough, and the growing number of people that bought the homosexuality which is being advertised for whatever reason, and now have that deepened illusion have a real challenge. While psychologists used to work through it and many homosexuals no longer felt those urges, that is illegal counseling today, so if they can't break out of it themselves, it's not going to be easy. However, I have a major attraction to just about every woman I see, yet I'm not going to jump on anyone, because I'm trying to follow G-d's law, and use that attraction for good in this world. I also have a desire to smoke and work-out and play paintball on seadoos on shabbat, because it's cool, but it's still not something I do, because we are above our desires. Even though I live every shabbos with the test of not being able to go to the beach island with a paintball gun and play D-day, and it's hard, I do it because that's what being righteous is. If G-d knew about people who would have these desires, which he did, he could have said, "if this law is hard, you don't have to do it". He didn't, and while anyone with a test that great gets a huge extra reward for fighting it off, the same punishment applies whether he was tempted or not.
4. I'm sorry, but I don't really know what OP means... you aren't coming off as cocky, and even if you were, I still value this discussion with my sister.
5. Even in Torah times, you couldn't do anything to a homosexual unless four credible, and kosher, witnesses actually saw the act taking place. Absolutely, gay parades in Jerusalem are a disaster beyond all words, and though you can't just force people to do something, in time if Israel was a Torah Jewish state that believed in the Torah principle of fighting back against evil people like the Terroristinian pedo-girl-mutilators, these things would disappear slowly but surely. G-d forbid it is forced on us all at once, because prophetically, it's through massive death caused by Ishmael and Esav, but we can merit to not have to go through this if we turn to righteousness, and even if we won't be there tomorrow, to try, and that's a fundamental part of what Kahanism is.
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