Foreign Aid To Israel

[mosquewatch]

I've heard Chaim speak about stopping all foreign aid to Israel.  I'm riding the fence on this topic. I don't believe the actual money is the problem, it is the POLITICIANS that are the problem. If anything should be done , stop foreign aid to places like Saudi Arabia !! I don't believe that America should hold Israel hostage by saying "Do as we say or no more money." but I honestly want and desire my tax dollars too support Israel. I just don't want the foolish politicians to get in the way. I see Chaims point in the matter clearly, but there is something within me that shivers at the idea of just cutting off all money to Israel. I still believe the money is not the problem, it is the corrupt leaders of both our Lands. Any thoughts on this ?

Jeff

[newman]

I've heard Chaim speak about stopping all foreign aid to Israel.  I'm riding the fence on this topic. I don't believe the actual money is the problem, it is the POLITICIANS that are the problem. If anything should be done , stop foreign aid to places like Saudi Arabia !! I don't believe that America should hold Israel hostage by saying "Do as we say or no more money." but I honestly want and desire my tax dollars too support Israel. I just don't want the foolish politicians to get in the way. I see Chaims point in the matter clearly, but there is something within me that shivers at the idea of just cutting off all money to Israel. I still believe the money is not the problem, it is the corrupt leaders of both our Lands. Any thoughts on this ?

Jeff

The problem is that the criminals in DC have the attitude..." he who has the gold calls the tune". Simple sollution: A Kahanist gov't tells DC to ram their money where the sun don't shine and then does what is right for Israel.

[kellymaureen]

Money should be given to Israel with no strings or restrictions attached, because its the right thing to do not so we can hold them hostage.  I do feel ALL money to any islamic craphole should stop instantly, no more money to those places, if they are hungry, need other things, there are enough oil rich muzzie countries who can take care of their own.

[newman]

If any Roman Ceasar had proposed giving money to Rome's enemies, they'd have cut him to pieces. Our leaders ARE our enemies. Time for a season of 'long knives'.

[RationalThought110]

The government always wastes tax dollars.  This is one of the reasons why it's better to have lower taxes so that people could spend money how they want it to be spent.  With less money going to taxes, less money could go to Israel's government along with Saudia Arabia and instead, more could be given to JTF, for example. 

[kahaneloyalist]

Israel must not accept foreign aide as it is an Avera, check out Rambam Hilchot Melachim

[Shoshana]

I just think that we should quit giving aid to our enemies( and the Saudis are in that tent) before we stop giving aid to Israel.
I understand and agree with the prevalent opinion on this site though that so long as Israel gets American tax dollars then Israel is at the mercy of the American administration and has to ask permission for anything it does. America should not bully it's way to being in charge of Israeli policies. Israel's leaders are cowards for having let this happen for so long and Israelis should be ashamed of themselves for continuously electing in such spineless leaders.

[RationalThought110]

I've heard Chaim speak about stopping all foreign aid to Israel.  I'm riding the fence on this topic. I don't believe the actual money is the problem, it is the POLITICIANS that are the problem. If anything should be done , stop foreign aid to places like Saudi Arabia !! I don't believe that America should hold Israel hostage by saying "Do as we say or no more money." but I honestly want and desire my tax dollars too support Israel. I just don't want the foolish politicians to get in the way. I see Chaims point in the matter clearly, but there is something within me that shivers at the idea of just cutting off all money to Israel. I still believe the money is not the problem, it is the corrupt leaders of both our Lands. Any thoughts on this ?

Jeff

The problem is that the criminals in DC have the attitude..." he who has the gold calls the tune". Simple sollution: A Kahanist gov't tells DC to ram their money where the sun don't shine and then does what is right for Israel.

Some of the Jewish politicians in DC--there'd probably be some--would then refer to Israel's government--when it will hopefully be led by true conservatives-- terrorists and compare it to Hamas.  Or if any of the Jewish politicians were to suggest that the US be an ally with Israel--when led by true conservatives-- they would get accused of supporting a terrorist government. 


If this were to be the case, a Kahanist led government in Israel would have to consider not being allies with the US.  Thus, it's vital that true conservatives also be in charge of the US government so that the two countries would be able to be allies.  With the flux of Third World Immigration brought in to vote for socialists, this will make it demographically difficult to elect true conservatives in the US, as long as the US has democratic elections where everyone of age is eligible to vote. 

[RationalThought110]

I just think that we should quit giving aid to our enemies( and the Saudis are in that tent) before we stop giving aid to Israel.
I understand and agree with the prevalent opinion on this site though that so long as Israel gets American tax dollars then Israel is at the mercy of the American administration and has to ask permission for anything it does. America should not bully it's way to being in charge of Israeli policies. Israel's leaders are cowards for having let this happen for so long and Israelis should be ashamed of themselves for continuously electing in such spineless leaders.

I think most politicians in the US would say that it isn't fair to give aid to Israel but not to any other countries in the "Middle East."  Thus, to prevent aid from going to countries that support terrorism, it will also be necessary for the US to not give aid to Israel. 

[Shoshana]

I just think that we should quit giving aid to our enemies( and the Saudis are in that tent) before we stop giving aid to Israel.
I understand and agree with the prevalent opinion on this site though that so long as Israel gets American tax dollars then Israel is at the mercy of the American administration and has to ask permission for anything it does. America should not bully it's way to being in charge of Israeli policies. Israel's leaders are cowards for having let this happen for so long and Israelis should be ashamed of themselves for continuously electing in such spineless leaders.

I think most politicians in the US would say that it isn't fair to give aid to Israel but not to any other countries in the "Middle East."  Thus, to prevent aid from going to countries that support terrorism, it will also be necessary for the US to not give aid to Israel. 

Well I don't doubt that most politicians would say that because most politicians don't see the dangers is giving weapons to any and all Muslim countries. Just arming our enemies with weapons they will use against us is all it is.
I still think my opinion seems very reasonable even to the slime in Washington. If you are an ally then you get our aid- if not then find your own funding from sources other than our working men and women!

[RationalThought110]

I just think that we should quit giving aid to our enemies( and the Saudis are in that tent) before we stop giving aid to Israel.
I understand and agree with the prevalent opinion on this site though that so long as Israel gets American tax dollars then Israel is at the mercy of the American administration and has to ask permission for anything it does. America should not bully it's way to being in charge of Israeli policies. Israel's leaders are cowards for having let this happen for so long and Israelis should be ashamed of themselves for continuously electing in such spineless leaders.

I think most politicians in the US would say that it isn't fair to give aid to Israel but not to any other countries in the "Middle East."  Thus, to prevent aid from going to countries that support terrorism, it will also be necessary for the US to not give aid to Israel. 

Well I don't doubt that most politicians would say that because most politicians don't see the dangers is giving weapons to any and all Muslim countries. Just arming our enemies with weapons they will use against us is all it is.
I still think my opinion seems very reasonable even to the slime in Washington. If you are an ally then you get our aid- if not then find your own funding from sources other than our working men and women!

But for decades now, the government has called Saudia Arabia an ally.  Is this really still the case despite the fact that most of the 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia?

[Shoshana]

I just think that we should quit giving aid to our enemies( and the Saudis are in that tent) before we stop giving aid to Israel.
I understand and agree with the prevalent opinion on this site though that so long as Israel gets American tax dollars then Israel is at the mercy of the American administration and has to ask permission for anything it does. America should not bully it's way to being in charge of Israeli policies. Israel's leaders are cowards for having let this happen for so long and Israelis should be ashamed of themselves for continuously electing in such spineless leaders.

I think most politicians in the US would say that it isn't fair to give aid to Israel but not to any other countries in the "Middle East."  Thus, to prevent aid from going to countries that support terrorism, it will also be necessary for the US to not give aid to Israel. 

Well I don't doubt that most politicians would say that because most politicians don't see the dangers is giving weapons to any and all Muslim countries. Just arming our enemies with weapons they will use against us is all it is.
I still think my opinion seems very reasonable even to the slime in Washington. If you are an ally then you get our aid- if not then find your own funding from sources other than our working men and women!

But for decades now, the government has called Saudia Arabia an ally.  Is this really still the case despite the fact that most of the 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia?

Of course Saudi Arabia isn't an ally. Just like Islam isn't a religion of peace. Politicians aren't known for their honesty. Compared to what we could have had in the White House I like Bush at moments but he is way too close for comfort to the Saudi royal family. The royal family who even had connections to 9-11. The whole situation just disgusts me.

[RationalThought110]

I just think that we should quit giving aid to our enemies( and the Saudis are in that tent) before we stop giving aid to Israel.
I understand and agree with the prevalent opinion on this site though that so long as Israel gets American tax dollars then Israel is at the mercy of the American administration and has to ask permission for anything it does. America should not bully it's way to being in charge of Israeli policies. Israel's leaders are cowards for having let this happen for so long and Israelis should be ashamed of themselves for continuously electing in such spineless leaders.

I think most politicians in the US would say that it isn't fair to give aid to Israel but not to any other countries in the "Middle East."  Thus, to prevent aid from going to countries that support terrorism, it will also be necessary for the US to not give aid to Israel. 

Well I don't doubt that most politicians would say that because most politicians don't see the dangers is giving weapons to any and all Muslim countries. Just arming our enemies with weapons they will use against us is all it is.
I still think my opinion seems very reasonable even to the slime in Washington. If you are an ally then you get our aid- if not then find your own funding from sources other than our working men and women!

But for decades now, the government has called Saudia Arabia an ally.  Is this really still the case despite the fact that most of the 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia?

Of course Saudi Arabia isn't an ally. Just like Islam isn't a religion of peace. Politicians aren't known for their honesty. Compared to what we could have had in the White House I like Bush at moments but he is way too close for comfort to the Saudi royal family. The royal family who even had connections to 9-11. The whole situation just disgusts me.

Why was Bin-Laden's family flown out of the US after 9/11?   

[RationalThought110]

So Israel's government is for foreign aid from the US government but against private donations from groups like the the UJC? 

[dawntreader]

I've heard Chaim speak about stopping all foreign aid to Israel.  I'm riding the fence on this topic. I don't believe the actual money is the problem, it is the POLITICIANS that are the problem. If anything should be done , stop foreign aid to places like Saudi Arabia !! I don't believe that America should hold Israel hostage by saying "Do as we say or no more money." but I honestly want and desire my tax dollars too support Israel. I just don't want the foolish politicians to get in the way. I see Chaims point in the matter clearly, but there is something within me that shivers at the idea of just cutting off all money to Israel. I still believe the money is not the problem, it is the corrupt leaders of both our Lands. Any thoughts on this ?

Jeff

Jeff,

I believe all foreign monetary aid to Israel should be ended. This is because the U.S. holds Israel over a barrel and insists that Israel act as a lap-dog for U.S. policy in the Middle East.

If you are a Jew, and you wish your tax dollars to support the nation of Israel...make Aliyah. It's the only solution to that particular problem.

[RationalThought110]

What about from non-government funding, but instead from groups like the UJC?

Here's an article about it:

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18019


It's too bad that the people who donate to that organization don't also donate to JTF. 

[Kananga]

Deuteronomy 15:6 says that Israel shall not borrow from other nations.

[SSN]

Israel must not accept foreign aide as it is an Avera, check out Rambam Hilchot Melachim

a true comedian!

its amazing how so many financial experts happen to be kahanists and join the JTF forums.

[newman]

Israel must not accept foreign aide as it is an Avera, check out Rambam Hilchot Melachim

a true comedian!

its amazing how so many financial experts happen to be kahanists and join the JTF forums.

His point wasn't financial, but religious, shtetl boy number 2.

What does SSN stand for?........Shtetl Schmuck Nincompoop??

[SSN]

Israel must not accept foreign aide as it is an Avera, check out Rambam Hilchot Melachim

a true comedian!

its amazing how so many financial experts happen to be kahanists and join the JTF forums.

His point wasn't financial, but religious, shtetl boy number 2.

What does SSN stand for?........Shtetl Schmuck Nincompoop??

umm, congrats for stating the obvious about his point, my remark was made for the rest of you financial geniuses.

[Mishmaat]

Israel must not accept foreign aide as it is an Avera, check out Rambam Hilchot Melachim

a true comedian!

its amazing how so many financial experts happen to be kahanists and join the JTF forums.

His point wasn't financial, but religious, shtetl boy number 2.

What does SSN stand for?........Shtetl Schmuck Nincompoop??

umm, congrats for stating the obvious about his point, my remark was made for the rest of you financial geniuses.

I'm not impressed by your holier than thou attitude.

You certainly can't debate anything on an intellectual level so you resort to insults.

I don't give a damn if you live in Israel or Antarctica. And I certainly don't care if you serve in Tsahal. You're a piece of sh*t and we'll continue our discussions regardless of your inane and insane commentary.

[SSN]

Israel must not accept foreign aide as it is an Avera, check out Rambam Hilchot Melachim

a true comedian!

its amazing how so many financial experts happen to be kahanists and join the JTF forums.

His point wasn't financial, but religious, shtetl boy number 2.

What does SSN stand for?........Shtetl Schmuck Nincompoop??

umm, congrats for stating the obvious about his point, my remark was made for the rest of you financial geniuses.

I'm not impressed by your holier than thou attitude.

You certainly can't debate anything on an intellectual level so you resort to insults.

I don't give a damn if you live in Israel or Antarctica. And I certainly don't care if you serve in Tsahal. You're a piece of sh*t and we'll continue our discussions regardless of your inane and insane commentary.

saying the words "debate on an intellectual level" and calling me a piece of [censored] in the same reply?
KUDOS!

[Mishmaat]

No. That's too harsh. You're a piece of garbage SSN.

Say whatever you want. That's the end of my exchange with you.

[mosquewatch]

SSN , how are you ?



Sorry people, I had a FR moment.

[jsullivan]

Here we go again with more arrogant, snide and insulting comments from SSN.

SSN and Taren are like the Twin Towers of Arrogance.