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Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« on: May 26, 2014, 07:36:35 AM »
Minister Bennett Says Pope's Eyes are 'Kind'
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/181047#.U4MmpCgVCYQ

Jewish Home party head, Economics Minister Naftali Bennett, met Pope Francis at Heichal Shlomo in Jerusalem and welcomed him to the Holy City Monday.

"Welcome to the state of Israel,” Bennett told the pontiff. “The state of Israel is the realization of the vision of the prophets, who foretold our return to the Holy Land, in the spirit of the verses 'the eternity of Israel shall not lie' and 'Torah shall spring forth from Zion.'”

"We are happy to host you in the city that has been our capital for 3,000 years, the city of peace, Jerusalem.”

After the meeting, Bennett wrote on Facebook: “I noticed that he had kind eyes.”
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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2014, 10:00:53 AM »
Jewish apocalyptic tradition has that the appearance of a comet, the destruction of Rome and the death or conversion to Judaism of its ruler (the Pope?) portend the Messianic Age!

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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2014, 10:49:49 AM »
Jewish apocalyptic tradition has that the appearance of a comet, the destruction of Rome and the death or conversion to Judaism of its ruler (the Pope?) portend the Messianic Age!

 Where exactly? I don't trust your words ever.
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4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

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5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2014, 02:56:01 PM »
Zohar, end of parshas Balak

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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2014, 05:18:40 PM »
I have heard of the Birthpangs of Moshiach. I think that is what he is referring to.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2014, 05:20:41 PM »

http://www.chabad.org/library/moshiach/article_cdo/aid/100900/jewish/The-Time-Before-Mashiach.htm

Ikvot Meshicha: The Time Immediately Before Mashiach
By J. Immanuel Schochet

The time appointed by G-d for the Messianic redemption is a closely guarded secret.1 Nonetheless, we are offered many hints to recognize its proximity: when certain conditions come about, await the imminent coming of Mashiach.

Most of these conditions are quite disturbing, clearly displaying a situation of the very “bottom of the pit.”2 One major source describes the world-condition in those days as follows: increase in insolence and impudence; oppressing inflation; unbridled irresponsibility on the part of authorities; centers of learning will turn into bawdy houses; wars; many destitutes begging, with none to pity them; wisdom shall be putrid; the pious shall be despised; truth will be abandoned; the young will insult the old; family-breakup with mutual recriminations; impudent leadership.3

Other sources add: lack of scholars; succession of troubles and evil decrees; famines; mutual denunciations; epidemics of terrible diseases; poverty and scarcity; cursing and blaspheming; international confrontations nations provoking and fighting each other.4 In short, it will be a time of suffering that will make it look as if G-d were asleep. These are the birthpangs of Mashiach, bearable only in anticipation of the bliss that follows them.

“When you see a generation ever dwindling, hope for him… when you see a generation overwhelmed by many troubles as by a river, await him.”5 “When you see nations fighting each other, look toward the feet of Mashiach.”6

Little wonder that some sages expressed apprehensions about those days in terms of, “Let [Mashiach] come, but let me not see him.”7 The prevailing attitude, however, is to await his coming in spite of all, even if thereafter we shall merit no more than sitting “in the shadow of his donkey’s dung!”8

The troubles and agony of chevlei Mashiach (birthpangs of Mashiach), however, are not unavoidable:

“What is man to do to be spared the pangs of Mashiach? Let him engage in Torah and acts of loving-kindness!”9

Moreover, there are also good and happy signs indicating the imminent coming of Mashiach: a good measure of prosperity;10 a renewal of Torah-study;11 and opening of the “gates of wisdom above and the wellsprings of wisdom below,”12 evidenced also by scientific and technological discoveries and advances; a manifestation and propagation of the mystical teachings of the Torah;13 and also “In the time that Mashiach will awaken, many signs and miracles will occur in the world.”14


FOOTNOTES
1.   Pesachim 54b; Midrash Tehilim 9:2. See Zohar Chadash, Bereishit, 8a.
2.   Midrash Tehilim 45:3. See Ma’amarei Admur Hazaken-Ethalech, p. 103f.; and Besha’ah Shehik-dimu-5672, vol. I:p. 551; relating this to the principle (Midrash Tehilim 22:4; Zohar II:46a) that the darkest moments of the night are immediately before daybreak. Cf. Zohar I:170a. For this analogy see also the comment of R. Elijah, the Vilna Gaon, cited in Even Shelemah, ch. 11:5.
3.   Sotah 49b
4.   Sanhedrin 97a; Shir Rabba 2:29.
5.   Sanhedrin 98a
6.   Bereishit Rabba 42:4. Note Pesikta Rabaty 37:2 (ed. Friedmann, ch. 36)!
7.   Sanhedrin 98b
8.   Ibid. See also Zohar II:7aff.
9.   Sanhedrin 98b
10.   Sanhedrin 97a; Shir Rabba 2:29.
11.   Ibid.
12.   Zohar I:117a
13.   Zohar I:118a. See Zohar Chadash, Tikunim, 96c; and Mayanei Hayeshu’ah, I:2. Cf. below, note 84. Note also Igeret Teyman, ch. 3, that prophecy shall be restored to Israel prior to the coming of Mashiach.
14.   Zohar II:8a
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2014, 05:42:53 PM »
My original understanding was not correct, I was not aware how very direct the Zohar Balak was. Aish.com has a reference to this Zohar story...

http://www.aish.com/sp/k/48949176.html

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TOWERS OF ROME

The Zohar (Balak 212b) describes a catastrophic tragedy that will befall future Rome, where "three great towers will fall":

I will show you, but not for now, for these things will only come to be at that time, some after time and some in the days of Moshiach. "A star has gone forth from Yaakov..." (Numbers 24:17).

This teaches us that in the future, The Holy One, Blessed is He, will build Jerusalem and one star will spark within 70 pillars of fire and 70 sparks will receive light from it in the middle of the sky. The other 70 stars will be swallowed within it. It will give off light and blaze for 70 days.

At the end of the sixth day it will become visible at the beginning of the 25th day of the sixth month. It will be gathered in at the end of 70 complete days and be visible in the city of Rome, and on that day, three great walls will fall, a great hall will fall, and the power of that city will die.


The September 11 attack may be hinted to in this Zohar. Amazingly, the attack on "three great walls" occurred on the 23rd day of the sixth Jewish month, Elul. According to some commentators going back hundreds of years, the accurate text of the Zohar is "23rd day" not "25th day," since the latter can never fall out on "the sixth day" of the week. This is due to a calendric technicality whereby Rosh Hashana, the first day of Tishrei, never occurs on a Wednesday.

Why does the Zohar mention Rome? Ancient Rome fell over 1,500 years ago, and nothing like this has occurred in modern Rome?

Historically, all modern nations can trace their roots back to ancient peoples, and all modern day philosophies can find their roots in ancient philosophies as well. "Rome the physical city" may remain today in Italy, but "Rome the concept" can be in the Western world today, in part or in whole.

But what difference does it make to look for an ancient source for a modern catastrophe, and a somewhat vague one at best? Either way, this horrible act of terrorism killed over 5,500 innocent people. American confidence was severely jolted, and the world economy took a big blow. And now, a new war has begun that could easily result in a world war, to no one's benefit.

AMALEK'S ATTACK

The Ineffable Name of God, which at this time of history is too holy to be pronounced as it is spelled: Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh, is actually made up of two parts: Yud-Heh and Vav-Heh. The unified Name represents periods of history when God's Presence is revealed and known, and the divided Name represents periods of time when God's Presence is hidden. This is why the prophet said of the Days of Moshiach:

On that day, He will be One, and His Name will be One. (Zechariah 14:9)

It is Amalek's wish and drive to keep the Names divided (Rashi - Exodus 17:16). Here's how he does it:

...[Amalek] made [the Jewish people] cold and lukewarm after you had been boiling. For, all the nations were afraid to war against you [when you came out of Egypt], and [Amalek] came and led the way for others. It is like a boiling hot bath into which no living being could enter, until a wild person came and jumped into it. Although he scalded himself, he cooled it for others. (Rashi - Deut. 25:18)

Amalek causes people to doubt in the reality of God and His hand in the affairs of man and specifically that of the Jewish people. Amalek hopes to sever any perceived connection between the will of Heaven above and the events of earth below. Perceived randomness destroys the meaning of history and denies a person to learn from his mistakes and turn his heart back to God.

It makes the attack on the World Trade Center and the results random, planned and carried out by terrorists, but devoid of any Heavenly meaning.

THE FLOOD

In the year 1656 from creation, or 2105 BCE, a major flood wiped out all living creatures, except for Noah, his family, and a small animal kingdom. It took Noah and his sons 120 years to build the Ark that saved them. And, they were forced to build it in full view of all the people of their time, who mocked them to no end and disbelieved their warnings of the impending flood.

The rest is history. The Great Flood came, man was washed away, and Noah and his family were forced to begin mankind anew one year later. The Flood waters rose above the highest mountain 15 cubits (about 30 feet), while the Ark listed down in the water 11 cubits (about 22 feet).

What difference does it make to know how severe the devastation was?

The numerical value of Yud-Heh, the section of God's Holy Name corresponding to His revealed and perceived Presence, is 15. The numerical value of Vav-Heh, the part of the Name corresponding to the hidden hand of God that works through nature, is 11.

This is why the 15 "ascended," while the 11 "descended" -- indicating a split in the Name while the two sections moved in opposite directions. It was the measure-for-measure punishment against the Generation of the Flood, because the point of the Ark and the other "natural" changes to history are messages from God to wake up and change our way of life. However, given the choice to ascribe the subtle messages to God or to nature, they chose the latter, pushing the hand of God further away in their minds.

Are we doing the same thing today, as we have throughout history?

MASTER PLAN

The Zohar (Balak 212b) writes about the End of Days:

...Then this star will emanate to be seen in the world. This will cause a great war to occur at that time in all four directions, and there will be no faith amongst them. In the middle of the world, once this star begins to shine in the middle of the sky, a great king will arise and take control of the world, and act arrogantly over all the kings. A war will begin on two sides and he will overcome them.

On the day that the star is gathered, the Holy Land will shake for 45 miles from all around until the place of the Temple. An underground cave will become revealed, and from that cave will go out a fire that will burn the world. From that cave a great and elevated branch will sprout and it will control the world. To him the kingship will be given. The holy and elevated ones will gather around him, and then Moshiach will be revealed in the world, and to him will go the kingship.

The world, at the time that Moshiach will be revealed, will have been experiencing trouble after trouble, and the enemies of Israel will have been prevailing. Then, the spirit of Moshiach will be aroused against them, and the evil Edom will be destroyed. The entire land of Seir will be destroyed by fire.

Regarding that time, it says, "And Israel will attain success" (Numbers 24:18), and, "Edom shall be a conquest and Seir shall be the conquest of his enemies." The enemies of Israel, and then Israel, will attain success.


Is this what we are experiencing now? Is that what the events of today are leading toward? Is biblical prophecy finding fulfillment in modern-day newscasts?

It is hard to believe that the answer is "yes" -- not because we know otherwise, but because we are scared to commit in case we are wrong, and scared to be wrong in case we don't commit.

We live in an atmosphere of thick doubt.

However, if you think about it, if the test is one of faith and trust in God, and His master plan for creation, then it doesn't really matter how the scenario ends. In truth, faith and trust need only know that the situation is difficult and nothing more.

If the situation is difficult, then we simply "turn on" our faith-and-trust switches and peacefully go with God. Of course, we do not remain oblivious to world events, and we may even be forced to dramatically alter our daily routines. However, we must not panic, but rather, always function within a Torah framework.
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You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2014, 06:26:43 PM »
 :::D  Muman its off by 2 days. It cannot be talking about 9/11. If its supposed to be a Prophecy it must be 100% accurate.
 Anyway we don't take into account things like the Zohar and other such things. Stick to reality and not "Apocrypha" and other such things.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2014, 08:25:32 PM »
My original understanding was not correct, I was not aware how very direct the Zohar Balak was. Aish.com has a reference to this Zohar story...

http://www.aish.com/sp/k/48949176.html
I like this article. But how could America be Rome? If Esau is who they think it is. We did everything we could to get away from Rome and the Church of England. If we would fall back to our roots back to our forefathers, it wouldn't be Rome, it would be Druid Celts, that show up in Europe out of nowhere in 600 bc.
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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2014, 09:39:29 PM »
:::D  Muman its off by 2 days. It cannot be talking about 9/11. If its supposed to be a Prophecy it must be 100% accurate.
 Anyway we don't take into account things like the Zohar and other such things. Stick to reality and not "Apocrypha" and other such things.

A) The article did not say it was talking about 9/11, it said it may be talking about 9/11

B) Who said it was talking about a prophecy. Zohar is not prophecy, it is about things that may happen, or may not happen. Your understanding of what the Zohar is seems to be the problem with your understanding it.

C) Who doesn't take into account things like Zohar? It is accepted and a part of Jewish tradition. You are the one who rejects it and tries to have issues with everything the Zohar discusses.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2014, 09:43:02 PM »

Jewish apocalyptic tradition has that the appearance of a comet, the destruction of Rome and the death or conversion to Judaism of its ruler (the Pope?) portend the Messianic Age!

 Where exactly? I don't trust your words ever.

And you asked where exactly, and this is the response that it appears in the Zohar... So he is correct, that this is a part of Jewish belief in the period of the coming of Moshiach.

You are free to reject it, but just don't deny that this is what it says. I accept it as a part of the mystic tradition of Judaism. And so do most Orthodox Jews.

But even the Talmud, the Oral tradition, clearly says that the period of the birthpangs of Moshiach will be a time of travail and tests of the Jewish people... It would really help your understanding of Jewish belief (not just cold halacha) if you would read some of the sages on the Talmud.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2014, 10:52:57 PM »
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The September 11 attack may be hinted to in this Zohar. Amazingly, the attack on "three great walls" occurred on the 23rd day of the sixth Jewish month, Elul. According to some commentators going back hundreds of years, the accurate text of the Zohar is "23rd day" not "25th day," since the latter can never fall out on "the sixth day" of the week. This is due to a calendric technicality whereby Rosh Hashana, the first day of Tishrei, never occurs on a Wednesday.

This is wrong. 23 Elul also can NEVER fall out on Friday. 23 Elul is the same day of the week as Rosh Hashana. 23 Elul and 1 Tishrei were on a Tuesday in September, 2001.

23 Elul can only fall on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Shabbat.

25 Elul can only fall on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Shabbat.


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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2014, 12:56:11 AM »
Israel should declare war on the Knesset and the leaders of Knesset who are situated in Rome, Belgium and Saudi Arabia.

The EU, Pope Francis and King Abdullah are the true leaders of the modern Israeli puppet state.
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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2014, 10:26:29 AM »
Only Chaim told the truth about Nafraudi from day one.

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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2014, 05:11:55 PM »
What tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive!

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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2014, 05:13:01 PM »
I bet that Chaim's opinion of Bennett has improved somewhat over the last 18 months
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/181193#.U4eiWpuKDn4


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Re: Naftali Bennett in love with the Pope
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2014, 09:45:38 PM »
I bet that Chaim's opinion of Bennett has improved somewhat over the last 18 months
And, as usual, I bet that you're wrong.