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[Every Jew AK47]

Vancouver is a liberal cesspool. Stay away from the big cities. Canada is going to hell if Trudeau wins. For now, it's the second safest place for Jews under Israel, where Hashem promises to save us. Really, the prophets warn that we won't find peace or anywhere to settle on the galut. Canada's good for making money until you can afford to move.

I would say America is safer than Canada if you live outside of the big cities like New York, Los ANgeles, Chicago, etc...  To me, there is no safer place..  I agree with you about Vancouver, but it's the closet part of Canadian civilization near me.. Going to Alberta would be a long drive.

Of course, you being a Canadian, I understand why you think Canada would be safer than the USA..  Most Canadians have a view that American is a crime ridden and gang ruled country.   However, a trip to East Hastings in Vancouver will dispel the myths of Canada being so safe.  I feel safer in Seattle, especially knowing I can carry a gun with me, unlike Vancouver, where you are forced to be disarmed amid groups of armed thugs.  Seattle metro overall has less crime than Vancouver or Calgary metro. 

Anyway, I think USA is actually safer for Jews than either Israel or Canada.  That is, of course, you are not living in a place like Chicago or New York City, where the local politicians decided to circumvent the American Constitution and impose their own laws that supersede Federal regulations.   That is one reason I would probably not even set foot in the state of California, Chicago, Wash DC or New York, because these parts of this fine country have been put under siege by evil left-wing politicians.  However, sooner or later these politicans will lose their grip on power as the American people will revert back to the freedoms guaranteed under the Constitution to challenge and overthrow the tyrants who are seeking to turn this country into another Europe or Fascist Dictatorship.

P.S. Ruby,
Houston is not the USA.. Houston is a crime infested cess-pool most inhabited with very liberal black and Hispanic Americans and hardly represents the USA or even the state of Texas for that matter. 

[Every Jew AK47]

Great Post Efraim!    Our Founding Fathers had much admiration and respect for Jewish people and founded the country on Jewish principles.  Indeed, the USA is the only reason why the Jews even exist as a people anymore, practically, as the Jews were almost completely exterminated from Europe.  Even, if AMerica had leaders who were not so friendly to Jews, America as a whole, was the safest and most accepting place for Jews to live on this Earth.  Just ask my great grandfather Efraim who escaped Belarus and moved to Detroit in the 1920s, only a decade before his entire village was wiped out by the Nazis.

Constitution


 by Prof. Paul Eidelberg

Introduction
 
The Republic prescribed by the American Constitution is the longest lasting free government in history.  America saved Europe from tyranny three times in the twentieth century, and today it is the only solid bastion of freedom against totalitarian Islam.
 
What is not generally known, however, is that the American Constitution was rooted in ethical and political principles whose source is none other than the Torah, the Five Books of Moses. Protestant social revolutionary reformers, especially the Puritans of New England, saw in the Torah models for modern government. The Puritans adopted or adapted Torah principles and values in organizing their own colonial governments. Many New England divines agreed with Harvard President Samuel Langdon, who said, in his 1775 election sermon:  'the Jewish government, if considered merely in a civil view, was a perfect republic.' Yale President Rev. Ezra Stiles, who conversed with rabbis, apparently agreed with Langdon that the American Constitution was based on the Ten Commandments. 

A.  Historical Background
 
Although many of the framers of the American Constitution were not devout, their political mentality was shaped in universities whose curriculum was based very much on Jewish ideas.  Accordingly, this essay will be divided into two parts.  The first part will show how Judaism, in particular the Five Books of Moses, influenced higher education in 17th and 18th century America.  The second part will examine the institutions prescribed in the American Constitution and show their roots in Jewish laws and principles.
 
1.  No nation has been more profoundly influenced by the "Tanach" than America.  Many of America's early statesmen and educators were schooled in Hebraic civilization.  The second president of the United States, John Adams, a Harvard graduate, had this to say of the Jewish people:
 
"The Jews have done more to civilize men than any other nation.... They are the most glorious Nation that ever inhabited the earth.  The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews.  They have given religion to three-quarters of the Globe and have influenced the affairs of Mankind more, and more happily than any other Nation, ancient or modern."[ii]
 
2.  The curriculum at Harvard, like those of other early American colleges and universities, was designed by learned and liberal men of "Tanach" persuasion. Harvard president Increase Mather (1685-1701) was an ardent Hebraist (as were his predecessors, Henry Dunster and Charles Chauncey).  Mather's writings contain numerous quotations from the Talmud as well as from the works of Saadia Gaon, Rashi, Maimonides and other classic Jewish commentators.
 
3. Yale University president Ezra Stiles readily discoursed with visiting rabbinical authorities on the Mishna and Talmud.  At his first public commencement at Yale (1781), Stiles delivered an oration on Hebrew literature written originally in Hebrew.  Hebrew and the study of Hebraic laws and institutions were an integral part of Yale's as well as of Harvard's curriculum.
 
4.  Much the same may be said of King's College (later Columbia University), William and Mary, Rutgers, Princeton, Dartmouth, and Brown University.  Hebrew learning was then deemed a basic element of liberal education.  Samuel Johnson, first president of King's College (1754-1763), expressed the intellectual attitude of his age when he referred to Hebrew as "essential to a gentleman's education."
 
5.  This attitude was not merely academic.  On May 31, 1775, almost on the eve of the American Revolution, Harvard president Samuel Langdon, addressing the Congress of Massachusetts Bay, declared:  "Every nation,  has a right to set up over itself any form of government which to it may appear most conducive to its common welfare.  The civil polity of Israel is doubtless an excellent general model."
 
6.  The Higher Law doctrine of the Declaration of Independence is rooted in the Torah, which proclaims 'The Laws of Nature and Nature's God,' and appeals to the 'Supreme Judge'  and 'Providence.'  Even though Jefferson, the principal author of the Declaration, had reservations about the Hebrew Bible, he supported Baptist churches and framed the Declaration with a view to galvanizing a bible-reading public in support of the American Revolution.
 
7.  During the colonial and constitution-making period, the Americans, especially the Puritans, adopted and adapted various Hebraic laws for their own governance.  The legislation of New Haven, for example, was based on the premise that "the judicial laws of God, as they were delivered by Moses, and as they are a fence to the moral law, being neither ... ceremonial, nor ha[ving] any reference to Canaan, shall ... generally bind all offenders, till they be branched out into particulars hereafter."  Thirty-eight of seventy-nine statutes in the New Haven Code of 1665 derived their authority from the Hebrew Bible.  The laws of Massachusetts were based on the same premise.
 
8.  The fifteen Capital Laws of New England included the "Seven Noahide Laws" of the Torah, or what may be termed the seven universal laws of morality.  Six prohibit idolatry, blasphemy, murder, robbery, adultery, and eating flesh from a living animal, while the seventh requires the establishment of courts of justice.  Such courts are obviously essential to any society based on the primacy of reason or persuasion rather than passion or intimidation.
 
9.  The seven universal laws of morality (together with their particular branches) comprised a "genial orthodoxy."  This genial orthodoxy transcends whatever social or economic distinctions exist among men:  it holds all men equal before the law.  By so doing it places constraints on governors and governors alike and thereby habituated Americans to the rule of law.  As a further consequence, this ancient Hebraic orthodoxy dissolved or subordinated many ethnic differences among immigrants in the new world.  It moderated the demands of various groups, helped coordinate their diverse interests and talents, and thereby contributed to America's growth and prosperity.
 
10.          Now, without minimizing the influence of such philosophers as Locke and Montesquieu on the framers of the American Constitution, America may rightly be deemed the first and only nation that was explicitly founded on the Seven Noahide Laws of the Torah.  Indeed, the legislation of the several states comprising the Federal Union embodied these laws, including the prohibitions against blasphemy and adultery, well into the nineteenth century.  It should also be noted that the constitutions of eleven of the original thirteen states made provision for religious education.  Some even had religious qualifications for office.
 
11.  Strange as it may seem, the Seven Noahide Laws were explicitly incorporated in Public Law 102-14, which established March 26, 1991 as "Education Day"!  What presumably saves this Congressional joint resolution from violating the First Amendment is its silence about the Hebraic origin of the Noahide code.  Here I must digress for a moment and say a word about the First Amendment.
 
12.  The First Amendment states that, "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion ''  This clause is now misunderstood.  It was intended not to prevent Congress from enacting laws supportive of religion, but to prohibit Congress from establishing a state or national religion.  In his 'Farewell Address,' George Washington declared:
 
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and morality are indispensable supports. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that National morality can prevail in the exclusion of religious principle."
 
Incidentally, the theme of Washington's Farewell Address is national unity.  National unity, he believed, requires national morality, a precondition of which is religion.   Religion and morality counter man's natural inclination to self-indulgence and his tendency to be preoccupied with the immediate gratification of his own desires.  Religion and morality foster self-restraint and consideration of others.  Far more than secular humanism, religion inspires men with reverence, with deference to wisdom, with concern for posterity.  But these ideas are Jewish ideas, rooted in the Seven Noahide Laws.

B.  The Institutions Prescribed by the American Constitution
 
1.  The House of Representatives represents 435 districts of the United States, where the people of each district elect one person to represent their views and interests.  The idea of district elections is implicit in the Torah.  'Select for yourselves men who are wise, understanding, and known to your tribes and I will appoint them as your leaders' (Deut. 1:13).  The word 'election' obviously comes from the word 'elect,' and the 'elect' means men of high intellectual and moral character.


            a.  Exodus 18:19 states:  '... seek out from among all the people men with leadership ability, God-fearing men--men of truth who hate injustice.'  Similar qualifications are prescribed in the original constitutions Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island.  This is what the word 'election' means.  It is not a democratic but an aristocratic term!


            b.  So, each tribe must select the best men to be their representatives. Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch comments that 'each tribe (shevet) is to choose out of its own midst men whose character can only be known by their lives [hence whose character] is known only to those who have associated with them.'  This is the biblical source of residential requirements for Representatives and Senators in the United States.  Also, what is here called a shevet was called a district after the Second Temple.[iii]


            c.  Moreover, the idea of district elections conforms to the Jewish law of 'agency' (Kiddushin 59a).  This law synthesizes the 'delegate' and 'trustee' concept of representation prevalent in the non-Jewish democratic world.  Whereas the delegate concept binds a representative to the instructions of his constituents, the trustee concept allows him to judge whether adherence to these instructions, when additional knowledge or new circumstances intervene, will harm his constituents' immediate and/or long-term interests.


            d.  Finally, it is a principle of Jewish law that 'No legislation should be imposed on the public unless the majority can conform to it' (Avoda Zara 36a).  This obviously requires legislators to consider or consult the opinions of their constituents.  Hence representative democracy can be readily assimilated to Judaism simply by adding that representatives must be 'men who are wise, and understanding.'  This would make for a 'high-toned' or aristocratic democracy, or a universal aristocracy.   (Bear in mind that Israel is supposed to be a 'Nation of Kohanim,' [Exodus 19:6] meaning a nation of noblemen.)
 
2.  The Senate.  The Senate represents the 50 states of the Federal Union; it therefore represents the Federal principle.  But the idea of federalism goes back to the Torah and the twelve tribes.  Each tribe had its own distinct identity, its own governor and its own judicial system.
           
3. The Presidency.  Unlike Israel, which has a Plural Executive or Cabinet consisting of a prime minister and other ministers representing different political parties in the Knesset, the United States has a Unitary Executive, namely, the President.  Of course, the President has a Cabinet, but its members cannot hold any other office and they are wholly responsible to the President, not to any political party.
           
a.  Now it so happens that a Unitary Executive is a Torah principle!  Thus, when Moses told Joshua to consult the elders when he was about to lead the Jews across the Jordan, God countermanded Moses:  there can only be one leader in a generation.  And if you look at tractate Sanhedrin 8a, you will see that Jewish law opposes collective leadership.  Nor is this all.


            b.  Just as a President of the United States must be a native-born American and not a naturalized citizen, so a king of Israel must be born of a Jewish mother and not a ger [transient sojourner] or convert..
           
4.  The Supreme Court.  Just as the American Supreme Court is the final interpreter of the American Constitution, so the Great Sanhedrin is the final interpreter of the Jewish Constitution, the Torah. 
           
So we see that the original American Constitution was very much rooted in Torah Judaism!

[Israel Chai]

I would say America is safer than Canada if you live outside of the big cities like New York, Los ANgeles, Chicago, etc...  To me, there is no safer place..  I agree with you about Vancouver, but it's the closet part of Canadian civilization near me.. Going to Alberta would be a long drive.

Of course, you being a Canadian, I understand why you think Canada would be safer than the USA..  Most Canadians have a view that American is a crime ridden and gang ruled country.   However, a trip to East Hastings in Vancouver will dispel the myths of Canada being so safe.  I feel safer in Seattle, especially knowing I can carry a gun with me, unlike Vancouver, where you are forced to be disarmed amid groups of armed thugs.  Seattle metro overall has less crime than Vancouver or Calgary metro. 

Anyway, I think USA is actually safer for Jews than either Israel or Canada.  That is, of course, you are not living in a place like Chicago or New York City, where the local politicians decided to circumvent the American Constitution and impose their own laws that supersede Federal regulations.   That is one reason I would probably not even set foot in the state of California, Chicago, Wash DC or New York, because these parts of this fine country have been put under siege by evil left-wing politicians.  However, sooner or later these politicans will lose their grip on power as the American people will revert back to the freedoms guaranteed under the Constitution to challenge and overthrow the tyrants who are seeking to turn this country into another Europe or Fascist Dictatorship.

P.S. Ruby,
Houston is not the USA.. Houston is a crime infested cess-pool most inhabited with very liberal black and Hispanic Americans and hardly represents the USA or even the state of Texas for that matter.

There's 2 million people and less than a hundred murders/yr there. Don't get your facts confused with prejudice. Gangs here are about money, not fighting. It happens, but rarely.

When the US economy collapses soon, the safe people will turn out to not be as safe. Think what you want about Canada, large open spaces are beneficial.

[Every Jew AK47]

There's 2 million people and less than a hundred murders/yr there. Don't get your facts confused with prejudice. Gangs here are about money, not fighting. It happens, but rarely.

When the US economy collapses soon, the safe people will turn out to not be as safe. Think what you want about Canada, large open spaces are beneficial.

The Seattle metro has around 4 million people and also has under 100 murders a year..   There are lots of wide open spaces in the USA and much more of the USA is inhabitable than Canada.  Also, are you forgetting Alaska which is like a huge country all in itself?? Alaska is just a day ferry ride from where I live..    Vancouver also has one of the worst epidemics of rape in North America.  In Vancouver women are only allowed to carry rape whistles.  In Seattle, a woman can carry a gun or pepper spray to defend herself.  I rather my daughter (if I had one) carry a gun or spray to ward off an attacker than a whistle.  This is just an example of the safety dilemma Canadians face.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-crime-among-worst-in-north-america-1.967033

A majority of the crime in the USA is confined to large inner cities and mostly involved in black and Hispanic neighborhoods.  And, the black neighborhoods have a much higher rate of crime than any other ethnic group.   

The US economy as crappy as it may be, thanks to the socialists, is still better than many places in the world.  Unlike China, cheap labor is not America's source of income, but there is still a lot of innovation and a very strong work ethic, in comparison to many European countries.  Also, America is not even close to being the socialist welfare state that Canada or any European nations are, at least as of yet.   If America's economy gets too trashy, many of those illegals will come running to Canada where they can still get free health care and free government benefits until Canada's economy collapses too.  On that note, the economy of Vancouver has already collapsed and people are leaving the city.  The city is being populated with Asian elitists and Arab immigrants.  They are building more mosques in Vancouver than they are building churches.  The cost of living is too high and Canada has no system installed to protect from foreigners from monopolizing real estate.  They say Vancouer has one of the darkest skylines in the country, because so many of those condos that make up Vancouver's skyline are vacant.  America's economy will eventually rebound, I have faith.  Boom and bust cycles are not unheard of for any country.  Europe's economy is atrocious.  Israel's economy is not great either.  Yes, it is not the worst, but the cost of living in Israel is far exceeding the rapidly increasing cost of living and limited resources.   Canada also is much more expensive to live and the wages are lower and taxes much higher, on average.

Canada has a lot of wide open spaces that is good, but with a population that is heavily monitored by the government and under the rule of the EU, I hardly feel comfortable in Canada.  Also, what's the deal with putting Queen Elizabeth on all the Canadian currency?  Is Canada a sovereign nation or a puppet state of the UK? 

America is a place that is use to struggle and overcoming struggles.   The welfare leechers, socialists, liberals and other wankers in our cities are not much different than those in your cities.  Canada has a growing immigrant population that is also quite liberal.  Canada, like the USA is gaining more and more freeloaders who are taking advantage of the system.   Americans will rise up eventually and fight against this. Why?  Because the hard working, noble, diligent people of the USA are the ones footing the bill of these brain-dead bleeding heart morons who sooner or later are not going to win the support the blue collar folk who have swung the elections in their favor.  The Swing state people "Blue Collar Democrats" eventually get tired of supporting a welfare nation and are part of the bread and butter and muscle that make an modern, Western, industrialized country, like the USA what it truly is.

[Israel Chai]

The Seattle metro has around 4 million people and also has under 100 murders a year..   There are lots of wide open spaces in the USA and much more of the USA is inhabitable than Canada.  Also, are you forgetting Alaska which is like a huge country all in itself?? Alaska is just a day ferry ride from where I live..    Vancouver also has one of the worst epidemics of rape in North America.  In Vancouver women are only allowed to carry rape whistles.  In Seattle, a woman can carry a gun or pepper spray to defend herself.  I rather my daughter (if I had one) carry a gun or spray to ward off an attacker than a whistle.  This is just an example of the safety dilemma Canadians face.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-crime-among-worst-in-north-america-1.967033

A majority of the crime in the USA is confined to large inner cities and mostly involved in black and Hispanic neighborhoods.  And, the black neighborhoods have a much higher rate of crime than any other ethnic group.   

The US economy as crappy as it may be, thanks to the socialists, is still better than many places in the world.  Unlike China, cheap labor is not America's source of income, but there is still a lot of innovation and a very strong work ethic, in comparison to many European countries.  Also, America is not even close to being the socialist welfare state that Canada or any European nations are, at least as of yet.   If America's economy gets too trashy, many of those illegals will come running to Canada where they can still get free health care and free government benefits until Canada's economy collapses too.  On that note, the economy of Vancouver has already collapsed and people are leaving the city.  The city is being populated with Asian elitists and Arab immigrants.  They are building more mosques in Vancouver than they are building churches.  The cost of living is too high and Canada has no system installed to protect from foreigners from monopolizing real estate.  They say Vancouer has one of the darkest skylines in the country, because so many of those condos that make up Vancouver's skyline are vacant.  America's economy will eventually rebound, I have faith.  Boom and bust cycles are not unheard of for any country.  Europe's economy is atrocious.  Israel's economy is not great either.  Yes, it is not the worst, but the cost of living in Israel is far exceeding the rapidly increasing cost of living and limited resources.   Canada also is much more expensive to live and the wages are lower and taxes much higher, on average.

Canada has a lot of wide open spaces that is good, but with a population that is heavily monitored by the government and under the rule of the EU, I hardly feel comfortable in Canada.  Also, what's the deal with putting Queen Elizabeth on all the Canadian currency?  Is Canada a sovereign nation or a puppet state of the UK? 

America is a place that is use to struggle and overcoming struggles.   The welfare leechers, socialists, liberals and other wankers in our cities are not much different than those in your cities.  Canada has a growing immigrant population that is also quite liberal.  Canada, like the USA is gaining more and more freeloaders who are taking advantage of the system.   Americans will rise up eventually and fight against this. Why?  Because the hard working, noble, diligent people of the USA are the ones footing the bill of these brain-dead bleeding heart morons who sooner or later are not going to win the support the blue collar folk who have swung the elections in their favor.  The Swing state people "Blue Collar Democrats" eventually get tired of supporting a welfare nation and are part of the bread and butter and muscle that make an modern, Western, industrialized country, like the USA what it truly is.

Lol you say Canada is not inhabitable and then say that one of the actually mostly uninhabitable places is. If you have a shelter from the cold and a lot of wood and food, you'll make it past winter, and you can get animals in forests and there's tons of lakes and rivers and shoreline for fish and blueberries grow great lots of places and other things that you can preserve. Who's talking about the people, you're crazy if you trust them. Stopping getting into this filthy Western culture and actually taking it seriously.

Yeah like I said, and those women then vote for the liberals who promise louder whistles and rights for Africans in Colombia or something completely foreign to their understanding. I wouldn't actually go there. Montreal at least the French Quebecers have simple decadencies and their winners usually don't end up being bright enough to mess up anything of use purposely.

However, Canada is not under the rule of the EU, and there is not even close to the monitoring that happens in the USA. Especially out in the country, you can go years without seeing anyone. And the Queen is a figure-head. She reads speeches the ruling party writes, and doesn't do anything else. They like the idea of a Queen really.


Really, most of what you said applies to the USA only. Other than Vancouver and Winnipeg, most of Canada has little crime, and its very safe almost everywhere, and if you live way out in the country, you're barely taxed.

America was a place where you had to struggle with advancement. Now they struggle with their survival. And they'll be the first in line to kill Jews when the time comes, your beloved blue-collar conservatives with the liberals.

[Dr. Dan]

I would consider the safest places to live are the places that are not densely populated. Larger countries tend to have a lot of open space.

In the US, if you are looking for a hot paradise to live in, it shouldn't be in a densely populated area or an area that would have crime or a missle attack. 

I'm afraid to say that Canada has no warm places..but I'm sure Nova Scotia is pretty some times of the year. 

In Europe, such as areas around the Rivera..or even Switzerland, you may be able to find decent places to live away from a major city and grow grapes and make wine.  Just a thought.

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Canada is not under the rule of the EU. Also, the Queen of England is also the Queen of Canada. The two roles are separate. She is Queen over many countries but those countries are not part of the UK. Canada became a dominion in 1867 and since 1982, Canada has been completely independent. The British Commonwealth is not the same thing as the British Empire.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

LONG LIVE THE KING!

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

The Patriot - Recrut:

[Debbie Shafer]

I would say Idaho, Montana, or Wyoming.  Not always a warm climate though..but lots of open land and forests.

[Israel Chai]

I would consider the safest places to live are the places that are not densely populated. Larger countries tend to have a lot of open space.

In the US, if you are looking for a hot paradise to live in, it shouldn't be in a densely populated area or an area that would have crime or a missle attack. 

I'm afraid to say that Canada has no warm places..but I'm sure Nova Scotia is pretty some times of the year. 

In Europe, such as areas around the Rivera..or even Switzerland, you may be able to find decent places to live away from a major city and grow grapes and make wine.  Just a thought.

There's plenty of places to live in Canada. There's plenty of nature and plenty to hunt. You need shelter for a few months every year, but that guarantees no insects, and a lot less people.

Canada harbors more war-criminals than any other country for this reason. Up north, no one will ever come looking for you, and you can live well and in peace forever without any contact with the world.