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If non-Jewish anti-Semitism was suddenly gone, would Israel still give up land?

The left wingers in Israel would still make it self-destruct by giving up land
4 (33.3%)
The right wing would take over Israel
5 (41.7%)
The people of Israel would continue to vote in leftists even though the pressure from the world is gone
1 (8.3%)
Other
2 (16.7%)

Total Members Voted: 12

Voting closed: July 31, 2014, 03:46:04 PM

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Offline Rubystars

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Imagine this scenario.

Suddenly all non-Jewish anti-Semitism is gone from the world.

Suddenly all the pressure on Israel from non-Jews in the world is gone. In fact everybody who isn't Jewish loves Jews. There's no KKK, no neo-Nazis, no Louis Farrakhan, no Barack Obama, or there is but they all love Israel and Jewish people now. Even Muslims suddenly hold Jews in high esteem.

Under this scenario Israel is under no pressure to give up land. The Fakestinians might still want it, but they want a genuine peaceful deal which may or may not involve getting paid to move, and not just as some ploy to end up destroying Israel in the long run.

What would the leadership and people of Israel do?

Would they continue down the path of self-destruction because Jewish anti-Semitism was still that strong? Would their anti-Semitism rekindle non-Jewish anti-Semitism?


Offline Tag-MehirTzedek

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The Jewish, Jew-haters would bark but no one would listen to them and the government would (and by name is) be right-wing. The self-haters would not have been able to deceive the public with the excuses such as "well Europe will boycott us" etc. That is the sh^t the likes of Livni say to the public. They spread fear saying that Israel will be isolated etc.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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I remember what Rabbi Meir Kahane said when he was speaking about Jews in Germany before the Nazis came to power.
The Jews weren't calling themselves Jews, they were calling themselves Germans of The Mosaic Persuasion & the intermarriage was sky high just like it is in America. Remember before the Nazis came to power The Jews were treated the better than anywhere in the world. The Polish Jews knew the hate and remained Jewish & were proud Jews. So anti-Semitism hardens The Jews heart & makes them better Jews. This in no way justifies anti-Semitism.
The banding together by the nations of the world against Israel is the guarantee that their time of destruction is near and the final redemption of the Jew at hand.
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Offline Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks

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Option 3. Secular humanism can only be defeated from within.

Offline Rubystars

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The Jewish, Jew-haters would bark but no one would listen to them and the government would (and by name is) be right-wing. The self-haters would not have been able to deceive the public with the excuses such as "well Europe will boycott us" etc. That is the sh^t the likes of Livni say to the public. They spread fear saying that Israel will be isolated etc.

The left uses the world's pressure to justify what they do, but then again what incentive would there be to elect a right wing government if there were no enemies to worry about? If the Fakestinians were suddenly no longer a threat then a tough philosophy like Kahanism would be a very hard sell.

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But fact is this will never happen...
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We are in a new phase of a very old war.''

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Rubystars I guess you didn't count muslims in your equation or did you? I think if there was no more antisemitism, then the Arabs would stop trying to destroy us wouldn't they? I think they would just say "here take back your little homeland and lets live in piece".

Offline Tag-MehirTzedek

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The left uses the world's pressure to justify what they do, but then again what incentive would there be to elect a right wing government if there were no enemies to worry about? If the Fakestinians were suddenly no longer a threat then a tough philosophy like Kahanism would be a very hard sell.

 OOh I assumed you meant no pressure from the world with countries like the U.S. and European countries and the U.N. I thought you were talking about that scenario where those who do pressure would stop with the pressure AND we would have the Arab enemies still around and how would Israel deal with them then.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

Offline Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks

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Rubystars I guess you didn't count muslims in your equation or did you? I think if there was no more antisemitism, then the Arabs would stop trying to destroy us wouldn't they? I think they would just say "here take back your little homeland and lets live in piece".
But what if Israel still chose to destroy itself by conforming to the depraved secular world?

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Usually people who rebel against god fail.
But what if Israel still chose to destroy itself by conforming to the depraved secular world?

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Non-Jewish anti-semitism will never disappear until Self Jewish hate disappears.

When Jews practice Judaism the way it was intended, anti semitism will be gone.. So there won't be any left wing ideology taking place.
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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Offline Tag-MehirTzedek

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Non-Jewish anti-semitism will never disappear until Self Jewish hate disappears.

When Jews practice Judaism the way it was intended, anti semitism will be gone.. So there won't be any left wing ideology taking place.

 Not really. Jews were hated even when we did the correct thing, the difference was that we then destroyed our enemies, but still they were around.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Usually people who rebel against god fail.
The vast majority of the world (at least outside of the Pisslamic world) is rebelling against God right now.