Hunger strike rally in Derrylin - peace process could be model for Gaza

[Super Mentalita]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/hunger-strike-rally-in-derrylin-palestinian-official-says-peace-process-could-be-model-for-gaza-30481218.html

A Palestinian official has told thousands of republicans at a controversial hunger strike commemoration that Northern Ireland's peace process could provide a model for how to end the conflict in Gaza.

Unionists and victims' groups had criticised the event as offensive to those who had suffered at the hands of the IRA and a glorification of terrorism.

Six members of the security forces were killed in the Fermanagh border village of Derrylin by the IRA during the Troubles.

Yesterday, 27 republican bands and their supporters held placards and banners of the hunger strikers as they marched through the small village where they were joined by Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams and Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness.

Ahmad Abdelrazek, the Palestinian Ambassador to Ireland, paid tribute to the 10 republicans who died during the 1981 hunger strikes in the Maze Prison while demanding to be treated as political prisoners, rather than criminals. He also met with a number of families of hunger strikers before the march and said he was proud to be a part of the commemoration.

"We came here to express our solidarity with the families of the 10 who died from the hunger strike and to inform people about what is going on in Gaza," he said.

"I think we have to realise that the hunger strike was a peaceful way of protesting and we always accuse the other of terrorism but at the end we have to understand the only way to get peace is to negotiate with the other party.

"We have to learn that after many years of struggle in Northern Ireland they have the Good Friday Agreement. So it's a good lesson for us and it's a possibility of how we could achieve a peaceful solution to end occupation in Palestine.

"This is a kind of communication between people that has worked all over the world."

Despite earlier tensions, there were no protests at the parade. However, it attracted criticism from South East Fermanagh Foundation (SEFF) victims' group, who said the event had re-traumatised victims' families.

[Ukrainian Jew]

This should leave no questions about it- Irish Republicans are terrorist scum, and are in league with the PLO as are the ETA (Basque). They are hypocritical in the sense that they demand "rights" for Catholics in North Ireland- as in, they demand that it join Ireland, even though many in Ireland are against this- without caring for the rights of the Protestant majority. Northern Ireland, where the majority is loyal to Britain, Protestant, and more people speak Polish and Lithuanian than Irish, should join Ireland. They are just like the Palestinian Muslims who don't care about the Christians and small remaining Jewish population. I'm glad these filth are cooperating because now all decent conservative Brits, Irishmen, and Israelis know their enemies.

[Irish Zionist]

This should leave no questions about it- Irish Republicans are terrorist scum, and are in league with the PLO as are the ETA (Basque). They are hypocritical in the sense that they demand "rights" for Catholics in North Ireland- as in, they demand that it join Ireland, even though many in Ireland are against this- without caring for the rights of the Protestant majority. Northern Ireland, where the majority is loyal to Britain, Protestant, and more people speak Polish and Lithuanian than Irish, should join Ireland. They are just like the Palestinian Muslims who don't care about the Christians and small remaining Jewish population. I'm glad these filth are cooperating because now all decent conservative Brits, Irishmen, and Israelis know their enemies.

The majority of Irish people are NOT against reclaiming our ancient land.
Also there has never been a Protestant majority in Ulster.
Any Irishman who supports the British occupation of Ulster is considered a traitor.

[Irish Zionist]

And by the way Ukrainian Jew, do you live in Israel?

[Ukrainian Jew]

No, I live in Lviv, Ukraine. But I do have family in Israel and America. But you do at least condemn the IRA for killing civilians right? And I thought Irish nationalists hate Israel and are pro-Palestine Marxists. I understand and sympathize with Irish people wanting to create an Irish state with Catholic, Christian values- my own father is Ukrainian Greek Catholic as a matter of fact. I'm just curious, what party do you vote for? Are there pro-Israel parties in Ireland? How would you rate public opinion on Israel-Palestine? I'm studying extensively (mostly through internet searches) on European public opinion about Israel/Palestine and how it relates to right/left differences and have found some pretty disturbing facts. (22% percent of rightists in Europe support Palestine compared to 29% for Israel. Of course leftists are far worse but they're irrelevant since we Zionists don't want their "help"). I'm sorry if I'm incorrect about the conflict but I don't understand it much, according to what I saw on Wikipedia the Irish army helped the British, and the IRA are pro-Palestinian Marxists.

[Super Mentalita]

This should leave no questions about it- Irish Republicans are terrorist scum, and are in league with the PLO as are the ETA (Basque). They are hypocritical in the sense that they demand "rights" for Catholics in North Ireland- as in, they demand that it join Ireland, even though many in Ireland are against this- without caring for the rights of the Protestant majority. Northern Ireland, where the majority is loyal to Britain, Protestant, and more people speak Polish and Lithuanian than Irish, should join Ireland. They are just like the Palestinian Muslims who don't care about the Christians and small remaining Jewish population. I'm glad these filth are cooperating because now all decent conservative Brits, Irishmen, and Israelis know their enemies.

Just what i tought! Myself i live in Belfast and the situation is terrible with the Irish Republicans attacking pro-Israel protesters, attacking the north-Belfast synagogue, huge 'Viva Palestina' text on the Belfast mountain (next to the terrorist/PLO Irish Falls Road). I do believe the Irish in Ireland are diffrent a lot of times from the Irish community's here in Northern Ireland. It's just a shame some people don't open their eyes for the truth on this forum.

[Super Mentalita]

No, I live in Lviv, Ukraine. But I do have family in Israel and America. But you do at least condemn the IRA for killing civilians right? And I thought Irish nationalists hate Israel and are pro-Palestine Marxists. I understand and sympathize with Irish people wanting to create an Irish state with Catholic, Christian values- my own father is Ukrainian Greek Catholic as a matter of fact. I'm just curious, what party do you vote for? Are there pro-Israel parties in Ireland? How would you rate public opinion on Israel-Palestine? I'm studying extensively (mostly through internet searches) on European public opinion about Israel/Palestine and how it relates to right/left differences and have found some pretty disturbing facts. (22% percent of rightists in Europe support Palestine compared to 29% for Israel. Of course leftists are far worse but they're irrelevant since we Zionists don't want their "help"). I'm sorry if I'm incorrect about the conflict but I don't understand it much, according to what I saw on Wikipedia the Irish army helped the British, and the IRA are pro-Palestinian Marxists.

Let's say yes. In Northern Ireland like EVERY nationalist i met is anti-Israel (there are a few exceptions). The IRA and all of their supporters are marxist scum supporting all kind of dodgy gurilla groups and the PLO. We have wallpaintings allover the town with IRA/PLO warriors standing hand in hand because they 'fight the same cause'. The pro-Palestine demo's in this town are like family days. Muslim scum together with republicans (Man, wife and kids) waving Palestinian flags. Don't forget the socialist workers and the  'anti-fascists'  are ALL republicans. They do not have any British sections in this country.

[Irish Zionist]

No, I live in Lviv, Ukraine. But I do have family in Israel and America. But you do at least condemn the IRA for killing civilians right? And I thought Irish nationalists hate Israel and are pro-Palestine Marxists. I understand and sympathize with Irish people wanting to create an Irish state with Catholic, Christian values- my own father is Ukrainian Greek Catholic as a matter of fact. I'm just curious, what party do you vote for? Are there pro-Israel parties in Ireland? How would you rate public opinion on Israel-Palestine? I'm studying extensively (mostly through internet searches) on European public opinion about Israel/Palestine and how it relates to right/left differences and have found some pretty disturbing facts. (22% percent of rightists in Europe support Palestine compared to 29% for Israel. Of course leftists are far worse but they're irrelevant since we Zionists don't want their "help"). I'm sorry if I'm incorrect about the conflict but I don't understand it much, according to what I saw on Wikipedia the Irish army helped the British, and the IRA are pro-Palestinian Marxists.

You should be ashamed living in a country that murdered hundreds of thousands of your fellow Jews.

I condemn IRA killing of innocent civilians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_%281972%29
Bloody Sunday — was an incident on 30 January 1972 in the Bogside area of Londonderry, Northern Ireland, in which 26 civil rights protesters and bystanders were shot by soldiers of the British Army. Thirteen males, seven of whom were teenagers, died immediately or soon after, while the death of another man four-and-a-half months later was attributed to the injuries he received on that day. Two protesters were also injured when they were run down by army vehicles. The incident occurred during a Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association march; the soldiers involved were members of the First Battalion of the Parachute Regiment
Do the Brits condemn this?

I don't know of any pro Israel parties in Ireland so I vote what's best for my country.

[Irish Zionist]

Let's say yes. In Northern Ireland like EVERY nationalist i met is anti-Israel (there are a few exceptions). The IRA and all of their supporters are marxist scum supporting all kind of dodgy gurilla groups and the PLO. We have wallpaintings allover the town with IRA/PLO warriors standing hand in hand because they 'fight the same cause'. The pro-Palestine demo's in this town are like family days. Muslim scum together with republicans (Man, wife and kids) waving Palestinian flags. Don't forget the socialist workers and the  'anti-fascists'  are ALL republicans. They do not have any British sections in this country.

I know about these groups & I have an extreme hatred for them.

[Irish Zionist]

Just what i tought! Myself i live in Belfast and the situation is terrible with the Irish Republicans attacking pro-Israel protesters, attacking the north-Belfast synagogue, huge 'Viva Palestina' text on the Belfast mountain (next to the terrorist/PLO Irish Falls Road). I do believe the Irish in Ireland are diffrent a lot of times from the Irish community's here in Northern Ireland. It's just a shame some people don't open their eyes for the truth on this forum.

What's that supposed to mean?
I hope you're not referring to me Mr "only Muslims attend pro Gaza march's in London"

[Super Mentalita]

What's that supposed to mean?
I hope you're not referring to me Mr "only Muslims attend pro Gaza march's in London"

I never said that only muslims attend the pro Gaza rally in London. What i said was; 'Thank God the majority of the people attend this rally are muslims and the rest are a bunch of leftwing students'. Don't put words in my mouth mr 'a shame this metorite didnt whiped out this whole nazi country Russia (what exaly means that you like to see all the Russian death).

[Super Mentalita]

I know about these groups & I have an extreme hatred for them.

Great! Same as i hate the British left anti-white, anti-semitic traitors.

[Irish Zionist]

I never said that only muslims attend the pro Gaza rally in London. What i said was; 'Thank God the majority of the people attend this rally are muslims and the rest are a bunch of leftwing students'. Don't put words in my mouth mr 'a shame this metorite didnt whiped out this whole nazi country Russia (what exaly means that you like to see all the Russian death).

The exact quote was:
Terrible! Thank God that the majority of the people on this rally are not British. The most are Arab and a lot of stupid leftwing students from across the world.
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,77217


In other words, most were Arabs and the rest were leftwing students from across the world.
Putting words into your mouth am I?

[Super Mentalita]

The exact quote was:
Terrible! Thank God that the majority of the people on this rally are not British. The most are Arab and a lot of stupid leftwing students from across the world.
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,77217


In other words, most were Arabs and the rest were leftwing students from across the world.
Putting words into your mouth am I?

Did you smoke some Irish weed? WHERE DID I SAY THAT IT WAS ONLY MUSLIMS YOU IDIOT!?!?!?! You copy and paste against your own word fool!!!

[Super Mentalita]

The exact quote was:
Terrible! Thank God that the majority of the people on this rally are not British. The most are Arab and a lot of stupid leftwing students from across the world.
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,77217


In other words, most were Arabs and the rest were leftwing students from across the world.
Putting words into your mouth am I?

Sorry i did not respont directly i was in town confronting some of your fellow Irishmen supporting Hamas!

[Ukrainian Jew]

You should be ashamed living in a country that murdered hundreds of thousands of your fellow Jews.

I condemn IRA killing of innocent civilians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_%281972%29
Bloody Sunday — was an incident on 30 January 1972 in the Bogside area of Londonderry, Northern Ireland, in which 26 civil rights protesters and bystanders were shot by soldiers of the British Army. Thirteen males, seven of whom were teenagers, died immediately or soon after, while the death of another man four-and-a-half months later was attributed to the injuries he received on that day. Two protesters were also injured when they were run down by army vehicles. The incident occurred during a Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association march; the soldiers involved were members of the First Battalion of the Parachute Regiment
Do the Brits condemn this?

I don't know of any pro Israel parties in Ireland so I vote what's best for my country.

My ancestors had no part in murdering Jews. In fact, they were the Jews being murdered. I have no shame living here either because Jews have lived here for over 1.000 years, and many of us refuse to leave. This is our home too, some areas in the countryside still have Jewish majorities, and even continue to live their lives as they have for thousands of years, so no, I am not ashamed.

[Ukrainian Jew]

I never said that only muslims attend the pro Gaza rally in London. What i said was; 'Thank God the majority of the people attend this rally are muslims and the rest are a bunch of leftwing students'. Don't put words in my mouth mr 'a shame this metorite didnt whiped out this whole nazi country Russia (what exaly means that you like to see all the Russian death).

I agree with you on this. I consider Russia to be an enemy nation but of course I realize there are some pro-Ukrainian, pro-Israel, Islamophobic groups in Russia (which I might post about later). And I don't think civilians deserve to die even if they are Nazis, Communists, or Muslims, that's just because they have been brainwashed. However, actual terrorists themselves deserve the full wrath of the Lord!

[Irish Zionist]

My ancestors had no part in murdering Jews. In fact, they were the Jews being murdered. I have no shame living here either because Jews have lived here for over 1.000 years, and many of us refuse to leave. This is our home too, some areas in the countryside still have Jewish majorities, and even continue to live their lives as they have for thousands of years, so no, I am not ashamed.

Nobody can be this stupid, I smell a troll.

[Ukrainian Jew]

Nobody can be this stupid, I smell a troll.

Really? Based on what. You can't call me stupid, because you're not even Jewish- I am, and I live in Ukraine.

[muman613]

Ukraine is no place for good Jews... My family left that hell-hole 100 years ago... Baruch Hashem we missed the pogroms and the wars.

[Ukrainian Jew]

Ukraine is no place for good Jews... My family left that hell-hole 100 years ago... Baruch Hashem we missed the pogroms and the wars.

It's not as bad now as it once was. I have no horror stories to speak of for me personally regarding anti-semtism, however, maybe a couple unpleasant incidents but nothing too bad.

[Irish Zionist]

It's not as bad now as it once was. I have no horror stories to speak of for me personally regarding anti-semtism, however, maybe a couple unpleasant incidents but nothing too bad.

The Ukrainians Nazis supported the German Nazis in WW2 & helped the German Nazis murder large numbers of Jews.

[Ukrainian Jew]

The Ukrainians Nazis supported the German Nazis in WW2 & helped the German Nazis murder large numbers of Jews.

And I'm against Ukrainian Nazis. In fact I made that clear when I introduced myself, that as I am Jewish, they are my enemies. But not all Ukrainians are Nazis, and that is a very uneducated thing to say. Just last week there was a large pro-Israel demonstration in Dnipropetrovsk. Also the Soviets were no better, and they also murdered hundreds of millions of people, many of them Jews.

[Irish Zionist]

And I don't think civilians deserve to die even if they are Nazis

Well that's very telling that you defend Nazi civilians.
I think if they are Nazis they do deserve to die.

[Ukrainian Jew]

Well that's very telling that you defend Nazi civilians.
I think if they are Nazis they do deserve to die.

If a little child does "Heil Hitler" salutes because he was brainwashed by his society that doesn't mean he deserves to die. As Jews we are civilized and we don't kill civilians unless of course the enemy uses their civilians as human shields. That is what separates us from Muslims and Nazis and Communists. However this has never been an issue, because no Jewish militant groups have ever murdered innocent people- or if they did those were just individuals. Judaism condemns murdering innocent people unlike Islam, Communism, and Nazism which encourage it.