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As an act "having Israel's back", Obama vetoed transfers of hellfire missiles to Israel. This is unprecedented act of betrayal. Notice the dependency of Israel for its basic ammo needs on US. This can't continue.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/184037#.U-zIGWK9KSM

A new report reveals that US President Barack Obama's administration stopped a shipment of missiles to Israel late last month and tightened weapons shipment procedures to Israel, as tensions between the two nations grow amid Operation Protective Edge.

The report in the Wall Street Journal, released Wednesday night, cites US officials in Obama's administration, who say they discovered Israel had requested a large number of Hellfire missiles directly through military-to-military channels. An initial batch of the missiles was about to be shipped, according to sources in Israel and the US Congress.

At that point, the Pentagon stepped in and put the transfer on hold. Further, top White House officials instructed various US military agencies to consult with the US State Department before approving any additional requests from Israel.

A senior Obama administration official was quoted in the report as saying the transfer shouldn't have been a routine "check-the-box approval," given Israel's defensive operation in Gaza against Hamas, which is recognized as a terrorist organization by the US.

The decision to clamp down on future transfers was the equivalent of "the United States saying 'the buck stops here. Wait a second…It's not OK anymore,'" said the official.

A Israeli defense official confirmed the reports to Walla! on Thursday, saying "the US delayed a shipment of Hellfire missiles to the Israeli airforce." He added "apparently it was (done) on the background of national tension" with Israel.

Obama has been at odds with Israel over the defensive operation in Gaza, making various attempts to press Israel into accepting a truce with the adamant terrorist organization of Hamas. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu reportedly responded to the pressure by telling the administration "not to ever second guess me again," after Hamas committed one of its many ceasefire violations.

Currently a new five-day ceasefire has come into effect as of Wednesday at midnight, with Obama calling Netanyahu shortly ahead of when it came into effect to push for a "sustainable" ceasefire.

According to US officials cited in the Wall Street Journal report, the Wednesday night phone call between Obama and Netanyahu was "particularly combative."

"Discovering" military-to-military arms transfers

The report noted that on July 20, ahead of the Hellfire missile cancellation, the IDF asked the US military for various munitions such as 120-mm mortar shells and 40-mm illuminating rounds, without the knowledge of Obama's administration.

Three days later the request was approved by the military, without Obama or US Secretary of State John Kerry being approached for approval, given that their approval was not required for such a transfer.

A US defense official added that the standard review process in such requests was properly followed.

The transfer without Obama's unnecessary approval was followed by a similar incident ahead of the Hellfire cancellation, which occurred the same day as the July 30 IDF strike on terrorists adjacent to a UN school, which the US slammed as "disgraceful."

In response, the IDF confirmed it targeted Islamic Jihad terrorists in the vicinity of the school. Previously the IDF provided video evidence that Hamas fires rockets from inside schools; further, UNRWA schools have been used in at least three cases to store Hamas rockets, after which UNRWA repeatedly returned the rockets to Hamas.

On the same day as the UN school strike, US reports said the 120-mm and 40-mm rounds had been released by the US army to the IDF, with one Obama administration official saying "we were blindsided."

A US defense official responded, saying "there was no intent to blindside anyone. The process for this transfer was followed precisely along the lines that it should have."

Demonstrating the tense ties between Obama's administration and Israel, a senior official of the administration told the Wall Street Journal "we have many, many friends around the world. The United States is their (Israel's) strongest friend."

"The notion that they are playing the United States, or that they're manipulating us publicly, completely miscalculates their place in the world," added the official.

The US decision to tighten down on arms transfers to Israel comes as the UK is threatening similar actions. On Tuesday, the British government threatened to suspend 12 arms export licenses to Israel if fighting resumed

Also,

Hotovely: Netanyahu Not Compromising Despite US Antics
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/184044#.U-zIxGK9KSM

PM Blamed for Deteriorating Relations with US
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/301621#.U-zJoWK9KSM
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2014, 10:52:56 AM »
Well with people like John and Barry running things it was bound to happen. Their selective outrage paints a really clear picture of what they are.
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2014, 01:24:15 PM »
I think Israel has plenty of ammunition, as it is a nation of smart, intelligent, diligent people. They should just take the tons of ammunition they've made and shove it in Obama's face to show him how completely useless his whining is.

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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2014, 01:48:47 PM »
I think Israel has plenty of ammunition, as it is a nation of smart, intelligent, diligent people. They should just take the tons of ammunition they've made and shove it in Obama's face to show him how completely useless his whining is.
That is not true - Israel, habitually, runs out of its ammunition supplies and is dependent on US to replenish them. It takes a lot of ammo to bomb empty barns and shacks.
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2014, 01:50:55 PM »
That is not true - Israel, habitually, runs out of its ammunition supplies and is dependent on US to replenish them. It takes a lot of ammo to bomb empty barns and shacks.
I never knew that they run out from time to time. That's pretty horrible actually.

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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2014, 02:12:20 PM »
Это вообще пиздец!
Israel is completely dependent, militarily, for major military platforms and ammunition supplies. It has to divest and expand its own manufacturing base and rely more on cheaper, less precise, unguided more TNT munition when attacking static objects. What sense does it make to spend guided smart bombs on deliberately empty shacks? This is not a war - it is a circus.
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2014, 02:24:55 PM »
King Barry is not an American and he's no friend of Israel.
He is an internal enemy of America.

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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2014, 02:59:55 PM »
American Jews need to contact their representatives and straighten them out. Obama cannot be allowed to destroy Israel (G-d forbid) without a back-lash...

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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2014, 03:09:48 PM »
I'm starting think Osama has won... I think America might be over!
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2014, 03:49:00 PM »
Again! Friend or Foe ?
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2014, 04:26:42 PM »
We all know that the muslim wants israel destroyed like all other muslims.

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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2014, 06:39:09 PM »
If everyone helps with my master plan to save the world, then this won't be an issue.
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2014, 06:55:06 PM »
Obama is no friend of Israel, and I suspect is a crypto-Islamic agent placed into the US Presidency in order to facilitate a Global Caliphate.
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2014, 07:03:30 PM »
Obama is no friend of Israel, and I suspect is a crypto-Islamic agent placed into the US Presidency in order to facilitate a Global Caliphate.

No he's the world's first Catholic with Hussein in his name  :::D
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2014, 07:19:12 PM »
Obama is no friend of Israel, and I suspect is a crypto-Islamic agent placed into the US Presidency in order to facilitate a Global Caliphate.
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2014, 08:29:56 PM »
I'm starting think Osama has won... I think America might be over!
Look at all the moral decadence- it already is, just like Europe and Israel. But that doesn't mean it can't be revived.

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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2014, 08:58:23 PM »
Look at all the moral decadence- it already is, just like Europe and Israel. But that doesn't mean it can't be revived.

It needs to be revived before it needs to be purged (G-d forbid0.
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2014, 09:43:09 PM »
It needs to be revived before it needs to be purged (G-d forbid0.
I think people are being pushed over the top, and I've seen articles about Americans buying guns, ammunition, etc. Maybe a real revolution is coming, because people are sick of the "liberals" (actually leftist totalitarians), neocons, socialism, and corporate greed behind this debauchery.

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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2014, 10:02:09 PM »
^ Yes, and we are the Majority! But the left has allowed the Islamist's to infiltrate. And there is going to be alot of blood shed! And they might win, because a country once built on the foundation of G-d has thrown him out!
No surrender! I just hope my kid's don't see my head cut off! And I hope they don't suffer!
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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2014, 10:18:28 PM »
^ Yes, and we are the Majority! But the left has allowed the Islamist's to infiltrate. And there is going to be alot of blood shed! And they might win, because a country once built on the foundation of G-d has thrown him out!
No surrender! I just hope my kid's don't see my head cut off! And I hope they don't suffer!
I hope that's true about you being the majority, but I've heard that 60% of Americans voted for Obama, and the rest are mostly neocons or other leftists.

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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2014, 10:27:05 PM »
^ Yes, and we are the Majority! But the left has allowed the Islamist's to infiltrate. And there is going to be alot of blood shed! And they might win, because a country once built on the foundation of G-d has thrown him out!
No surrender! I just hope my kid's don't see my head cut off! And I hope they don't suffer!

The Islamists in this country will lose..  America is not going to turn into an Islamic country.. Rather, America is going to split into two countries and one country will be the Freedom Fighters who will represent the original inhabitants of this nation.  The other country will be the Islamo-European Fascist Socialist state that will be ruled by the Communists or Islamists.   The inhabitants of that nation will be mostly the liberals and minorities of the country, Mexicans, Blacks, Muslims..    There will be a Civil War and the two sides will go against each other.  However, this will only be the beginning of the fighting and wars we see all over the world.  Even, I feel Israel too will eventually make a split and devolve into Civil War between multiple factions, The Euro-Socialist Israelis and the Religious/Right-Wing Israelites.   America and Israel I think are actually going to both see their nations split and erupt into civil war.

However. GOOD WILL TRIUMPH OVER EVIL!!!!!!!

Also, America's military, in general, is very much against the liberal leadership, this includes many of America's top ranking generals who serve under Obama Hussein.    Most likely America will sooner or later undergo a military split, just as so many other nations around the globe have.  For the USA, it took much longer, but America is still a new nation , but Our Constitution is our heritage and will protect us.  Anyone who defends the Constitution of the USA will be on the side of freedom and liberty.  All those who war against it, will be the enemies.  Our military, unlike our government, is much more keen on defending our Constitution.   I feel Obama or his successor will eventually try to overhaul our military and relieve our generals and the more pro-Constitution and conservative military we have for a more specialized military or even import NATO military, Islamic or UN troops to patrol the country.   When this happens , this will be the beginning of the split and the eruption of a Civil War, which will most likely be our SEcond Revolutionary War.

America has its nuclear power and military might distributed all over the country.. All it takes is one state seceding from the nation to create a very powerful and formidable country of its own.   As we saw in our First Civil War, our country may not be as united as people believe and we are capable of becoming independent entities and wrecking havoc on each other.   If the tyrants in Washington believe they can oppress all the great people of this nation, they may find quickly that millions of vigilant and freedom loving Americans will no longer be taking orders from those tyrants in Washington.

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Re: Obama vetoes scheduled and prepaid ammunition resupplies to Israel!
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2014, 04:10:48 AM »
What's the problem?
Why we can't we just buy ammunition from China & Russia?
Also if we had leadership with balls we would tell Obama we are cutting all contacts with the US until a more sympathetic President & cabinet are elected & just deal with Russia & China.