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happy halloween
« on: September 30, 2014, 09:39:44 AM »
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Re: happy halloween
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2014, 10:14:19 AM »
Jews don't do Halloween!!!!!!
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Re: happy halloween
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2014, 02:39:11 PM »
its an article. I don't know why it shows up as a video here.

Its one link.
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Re: happy halloween
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2014, 04:39:38 PM »
Are they morons?

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Re: happy halloween
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2014, 04:08:00 PM »
Jews don't do Halloween!!!!!!
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So does that mean a member of this forum can not wish people a happy Halloween? Where do you live by the way? Do you live in Israel?
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Re: happy halloween
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2014, 04:25:47 PM »
Halloween is idolatry. Even Christians will agree with us on this. It's part of the Wicca religion.


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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2014, 04:33:04 PM »
Halloween

Every October 31st, hundreds of thousands of children dress in costumes, which range from the cute and sweet to the macabre and satanic. Every year this custom is repeated because it has always been done. That is what makes it a ritual. After all, it is all harmless fun.

But where did the rituals come from?
Why do people carve jack-o-lanterns?
Why do children dress in costumes?
Where did the tradition of bobbing for apples at parties originate?
Why, when children approach a stranger's door, do they enthusiastically exclaim, "trick or treat"?
How did the custom of orange and black as the colors of Halloween get started?

The Origins

Some form of Halloween was observed by the ancient Romans and Greeks and many others all kept a Halloween festival.

The Druids of Britain, celebrated Samhain, a festival that marked the eve of the Celtic New Year, which began on November 1st. The fall harvest was complete and winter loomed ahead. The Druids believed the power of the sun was fading. For the next several months, darkness would prevail.

"Because the Celtic day started at sunset, and ran to the following sunset, the festival began on the eve of 1 November, when the souls of the departed were supposed to revisit their old homes in order to warm themselves by the fire and to comfort themselves with the good cheer provided for them in the kitchen or the parlor by their affectionate kinsfolk. All Hallows Eve, as the beginning of winter and the dying time of the old year, was a night when the dead stalked the countryside. Offerings of food and drink were put out for the ghosts," Man, Myth and Magic, Vol. 1, p. 67.

It was believed by the Druids that during Samhain, the dead would play "tricks on mankind and caused panic and destruction. They had then to be appeased. Part of this appeasement process involved the giving of food to the spirits as they visited the homes. This formed the foundation of the modern practice of "trick or treat." Man, Myth and Magic, Vol. 4, p. 440

The ceremony of Halloween underwent an infusion of other pagan influences when the Celt homeland was absorbed by the Roman Empire. While Rome allowed the Druid priests to continue all their ceremonies, "except human sacrifice," new rituals of Roman origins were also incorporated. "Chief among them was the worship of Pomona, goddess of the harvest. Representing bounty and fecundity, Pomona was shown in art sitting on a great basket of fruits and flowers, a horn of plenty at her feet. Apples were the sacred fruit of the goddess, and many games of divination involving apples entered the Samhain customs through her influence. One of the most popular involved bobbing for apples," Common Boundary, Sep./Oct. 1993, p. 30.

Michael Judge, writing for the New Age periodical Common Boundary, explains, Halloween probably began between 1000 and 100 B.C., among the Celtic people. The actual holiday was a commemoration of their new year (Sep./Oct. 1993, p. 29). It was at this time of the year that Baal, the Celtic god of Spring and Summer, ended his reign. It was also when the Lord of the Dead, Samhain, began his reign.

The History Channel reports some interesting background on Halloween: "The tradition of dressing in costume for Halloween has both European and Celtic roots. Hundreds of years ago, winter was an uncertain and frightening time. Food supplies often ran low and, for the many people afraid of the dark, the short days of winter were full of constant worry. On Halloween, when it was believed that ghosts came back to the earthly world, people thought that they would encounter ghosts if they left their homes. To avoid being recognized by these ghosts, people would wear masks when they left their homes after dark so that the ghosts would mistake them for fellow spirits. On Halloween, to keep ghosts away from their houses, people would place bowls of food outside their homes to appease the ghosts and prevent them from attempting to enter."

Incorporated into the Church

"Grafted onto one of the Church's great holy days, Samhain became All Hallows Eve, contracted over years of usage to All Hallows Een and, ultimately, Halloween," Common Boundary, Sep./Oct. 1993, p. 31.

Celebrations were marked by bonfires, parades, and people dressing up in costumes as saints, angels, and devils.

There isn't a lot that has changed from the past. During the 19th century, there was a move to center Halloween on family and community, but the roots and traditions of it proved to be too entrenched to change it.

The Origin of Trick-or-Treating

It's been suspected that the act of going from door to door to get candy traces back to the All Saint's day parades when during the festivities, the poor would go around to peoples' houses begging for food. Families who answered the door would give them pastries called "Soul cakes" in return for their promise that they would pray for family's dead relatives. This practice was eventually given over to children and intended to replace the tradition of leaving out food for "roaming spirits".

Halloween also serves as a time for those involved in the occult, witchcraft, and demonism commemorate their own sacred rituals. Covens gather and the worshiping of spirits commences.



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Re: happy halloween
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2014, 05:27:15 PM »
I'll know that I'll get blasted for this, but Halloween is my favorite non-jewish holiday.  I like any holiday that kids get free candy out if it.

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 09:02:18 PM »
I'll know that I'll get blasted for this, but Halloween is my favorite non-jewish holiday.  I like any holiday that kids get free candy out if it.


Your favorite should be American holidays like The Fourth of July or Thanksgiving. But Chaim holds that Jews should not even celebrate any Non-Jewish holidays. There area rabbis that disagree and rabbis that celebrate both of the holidays I mentioned above. My rabbi even said Din DeMalkhuta Dina about The Fourth of July and like it's a Rabbinic mitzvah that the law of the land is the law and we have to observe it when it doesn't conflict with Halacha. He said that when I said that I have a Fourth of July BBQ on Friday when I falls on Shabbat. I said it's not a mitzvah anyway so you can have a BBQ on Friday. I eat it on Friday and save some for Shabbat. He said he doesn't know if the custom is to have a BBQ on July 4 or to eat the meat from it. So when I said it's not a mitzvah he said "Din DeMalkhuta Dina". Of course it's Halachically forbidden DeOraita to have a BBQ on this coming July 4 which is Shabbat. It would be forbidden to eat on July 4 in the day time if it wasn't Shabbat because this coming July 4 is 17 Tammuz and the fast is delayed to Sunday. Of course July 4, 1776 was Tuesday, 17 Tammuz, 5536. 17 Tammuz will be a feast day in the Messianic Era. The Jews were expelled from Spain on Tisha B'Av. G-d opened a new place for Jews to thrive in America when Columbus set sail from Spain on the same day. The US certainly benefited humanity and the Founding Fathers supported the Jews returning to the Land of Israel. The US is the last righteous country where Jews live in Exile. So July 4 and 17 Tammuz on Shabbat can be like a portent of the World To Come when 17 Tammuz will be a festival.

Halloween is not American. It is European paganism.


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Re: happy halloween
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2014, 09:36:55 PM »
Binyamin not all Christians are against Halloween in its entirety. Some are.

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Re: happy halloween
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2014, 09:41:56 PM »


Your favorite should be American holidays like The Fourth of July or Thanksgiving. But Chaim holds that Jews should not even celebrate any Non-Jewish holidays. There area rabbis that disagree and rabbis that celebrate both of the holidays I mentioned above. My rabbi even said Din DeMalkhuta Dina about The Fourth of July and like it's a Rabbinic mitzvah that the law of the land is the law and we have to observe it when it doesn't conflict with Halacha. He said that when I said that I have a Fourth of July BBQ on Friday when I falls on Shabbat. I said it's not a mitzvah anyway so you can have a BBQ on Friday. I eat it on Friday and save some for Shabbat. He said he doesn't know if the custom is to have a BBQ on July 4 or to eat the meat from it. So when I said it's not a mitzvah he said "Din DeMalkhuta Dina". Of course it's Halachically forbidden DeOraita to have a BBQ on this coming July 4 which is Shabbat. It would be forbidden to eat on July 4 in the day time if it wasn't Shabbat because this coming July 4 is 17 Tammuz and the fast is delayed to Sunday. Of course July 4, 1776 was Tuesday, 17 Tammuz, 5536. 17 Tammuz will be a feast day in the Messianic Era. The Jews were expelled from Spain on Tisha B'Av. G-d opened a new place for Jews to thrive in America when Columbus set sail from Spain on the same day. The US certainly benefited humanity and the Founding Fathers supported the Jews returning to the Land of Israel. The US is the last righteous country where Jews live in Exile. So July 4 and 17 Tammuz on Shabbat can be like a portent of the World To Come when 17 Tammuz will be a festival.

Halloween is not American. It is European paganism.
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Re: happy halloween
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2014, 09:44:53 PM »
But... anyone see any of the similarities?
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2014, 09:47:05 PM »
Binyamin not all Christians are against Halloween in its entirety. Some are.


The site I posted that from was some Chrsitian Wiki site. I left out the last paragraph which had Torah references and the Name of Hashem with a Y and a w inside that some stupid people think is the pronunciation of the Name we can't say (The correct pronouciation of the Name we can't say is like the J Witness name but change the J to Y. The name they wrote is like in secular World History books in colleges.). It also mentioned Christan Bible references. The references were about about the prohibition of witchcraft.

I'm pretty sure hardcore JTF type Christian Righteous Gentiles are opposed to holidays like Halloween. I mean I assume Evangelicals like Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz would oppose it. The Catholics incorporated it into their religion. Many Evangelicals also oppose X-mas for the same reason and support Thanksgiving. The Pilgrims were Puritan Righeous Gentiles that banned X-mas and withcraft from New England.



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Re: happy halloween
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2014, 10:19:23 PM »
When I was a kid we did Halloween..

But now that I know what it is about I haven't done anything special for Halloween for almost 12 years now...

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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2014, 09:04:15 AM »
Halloween is idolatry. Even Christians will agree with us on this. It's part of the Wicca religion.
Of course!  I worship The Great Pumpkin on Halloween. 


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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2014, 12:08:35 PM »
Is it not just fun? Some people miss that part in their life.
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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2014, 06:33:05 PM »

Of course!  I worship The Great Pumpkin on Halloween. 






Lol Bullcat! We do Halloween too, it's just fun for the kids. They don't associate it with any G-ds. Now if they were dancing in a flaming pentagram in the backyard, we might have a problem.

But I do like people to know American History.
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2014, 07:21:35 PM »
So I'm on the subway and some kid says to me, "Nice mask mister!"

I wasn't wearing a mask!!!

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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2014, 07:27:40 PM »
Jews have Purim for dress-up day... Purim is a much more fun Holiday than Halloween for many reasons. We give gifts to the poor, gifts of food to our friends, and a festive meal besides dressing up as our favorite characters. None of the 'Day of the Dead' craziness associated with Purim, no 'trick or treat' decisions, and no egg-throwing or toilet papering...

When I was a kid all kinds of mischief was considered appropriate for Halloween... Blowing up neighbors mailboxes, toilet-papering their trees, and throwing eggs at friends and enemies alike...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2014, 08:43:50 PM »
So does that mean a member of this forum can not wish people a happy Halloween? Where do you live by the way? Do you live in Israel?

Halloween doesn't bother me at all.   Jews have bigger problems than that.   We have Iran breathing down Israel's neck about to make an atomic bomb- threatening a second holocaust against 6 million Jews.