ISIS decapitations: preparing the world for Torah decapitations?

[Yerusha]

"Whatever a Jew sees or hears has an immediate Divine lesson for him!" (Baal Shem Tov)


The Jew has 613 mitzvos, transgressing of many of which carry Capital Punishment, after due Sanhedraic legal process, by either Decapitation (Hereg), Stoning (Skilah), Incineration (Sreifah) or Strangulation (Chenek).

The Gentile has just 7 commandments, transgressing of any one carrying Capital Punishment by solely one method: Hereg - Decapitation!

Thus a Gentile who fails to set up a court sysytem, who eats from a living animal or who steals (even one cent!) etc. is liable to be exectuted by Decapitation.

In the Torah scheme, there is no such thing as jail or prison time!

This is not to be compared to the unwarranted ISIS Islamic murder of innocents.

But the phenomenon of ISIS is preparing the world for a time when Gentiles who violate any of the 7 Noahide Commands will have their heads lopped off, by Hashem's Decree!

[mord]

They have ora miklad for accidental killings that's like prison.Also the death penalty wasn't carried out often or else it would be called a bloody bais din.

[angryChineseKahanist]

That was dark.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

There was no such thing as jail in those days.  That doesn't mean it is incompatible with Torah law.  It just wasn't invented yet at that time.     I don't see why jail should be forbidden any more than a computer should be forbidden.

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

There was no such thing as jail in those days.  That doesn't mean it is incompatible with Torah law.  It just wasn't invented yet at that time.     I don't see why jail should be forbidden any more than a computer should be forbidden.

 Their was jail in the time of Egypt. Yosef was put into jail in Egypt.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Their was jail in the time of Egypt. Yosef was put into jail in Egypt.

True but it seems it was more of a dungeon thing for individuals, not a public institution to punish criminals.  If they did have that I wonder why Torah law didn't make use of it.  Maybe slavery was more practical.   On the other hand, for a legal system that permits the wholesale killing of violent/dangerous people (rodef), a jail system would probably be superfluous.

[muman613]

There could be another reason.... Looking at Pirkie Avot Chapter 5 Mishnah 11a:

"Pestilence comes to the world for death penalties mentioned in the Torah which are not in the hands of the courts [to administer] and for [the forbidden use of] Sabbatical year produce. The sword comes to the world for the delay of justice, the perversion of justice, and for those who expound the Torah not in accordance with Jewish law. Wild beasts come to the world for false oaths and the desecration of G-d's Name. Exile comes to the world for idolatry, adultery, murder, and the working of the earth on the Sabbatical year."

[kyel]

What is wrong with you? Jews do not have a concept of Jihad like ISIS. Plus the End of Days will be a great time of teshuva and the gentiles and Jews who are left will be righteous.

[syyuge]

ISIS can not be compared with the Jews.

[Yehudayaakov]

Dont make such a horrible comparison! there are such restriction in Jewish faith  that it's sure they have never been implemented.

[Yerusha]

Islam (and Xtianity) are evil, warped daughter religions of Judaism, as the Rambam writes. But as daughters, they still contain elements of Torah truth.

Capital punishment is still fully on the Torah's statutes books for many sins, both of Jew and Gentile, and even if we haven't got the power to implement, then the Heavenly Court does implement the decree, as was mentioned above. Hence the constant culling everyday of humans in strange unnatural deaths and ways.

The phenomenon of the Muslims demanding Muslim Sharaya Law worldwide, and which has even been accepted by the nominal Xtians in the UK and Sweden, is a warped demented reflection of Torah Halachic Law. "Halacha is the most perfect system for the existence of man in the universe!" (R.Chaim Zimmerman)

But these Muslim shenanigans is in someway preparing the world for when the entire world will literally run according to Halacha! And people won't appreciate it, and most Jews (including Haredim) and non-Jews will not be amenable , which is why most will have to perish, as foretold by the Prophets.

We have to say that in the future, Judaism's Halachic Law, which is also very strict, will be enforced in full, as R.Kahane often stated: "The American Jew is under the impression that Judaism is Democracy, that it is Thomas Jefferson: well it isn't.....!" .

When the Moshiach comes the Jews and Gentiles will not suddenly do teshuva and turn righteous overnight & mitzva observant: it will take months, years and decades.

The commentators refer to bands even of religious Jews who will attempt to assassinate the Moshiach, ergo the Goyim!

During that intermediary period of the Moshiach's early kingship, until "The Righteousness will shine from Jerusalem like a torch", there will have to be very many Halachic executions, some judicial, some extra-judicial.

The question is: who is going to swing the Torah's Hereg sword.......?!

[Rational Jew]

Can somebody provide me with a phone number of a mental institution from which yerusha escaped from? It's time to send the troll back!

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Lololol this thread

[dimitry]

Yerusha = Troll

[Israel Chai]

Without talking about weirdness, it wasn't the craziest thing he's said. Of course, we only decapitate murderers as far as I know, but if we keep the mitzvot in the exile so they won't look strange in Israel, then why not the others keep "the mitzvot that are trampled upon". One problem is, will we need punishment in the Messianic era?

As for the quote, I forget where I heard, maybe Pirkei Avot, it said "a wise man sees everything that happens to him as a mashal".

[Yerusha]

"A non-Jew is executed (by hereg) for violating any of the Seven Noahide Laws" (Talmud Sanhedrin 57a)



"The coming of Moshiach will not merely usher in a new age from the Am Yisrael. It will effect the life of the entire world. The Rambam writes that 'Moshiach will rectify the entire world bringing them to serve Hashem together'. He will enforce them to all keep the 7 Noahide Laws.

Although these laws are not as restrictive (l'havdil elef pa'amim) as the Sharia Law of Islam, the very idea of religious restriction is an anathema to Western Culture. They will see Moshiach's agenda to establish the world with the Kingdom of the Almighty as a threat to their freedom. In response they will launch a military campaign, the War of Gog and Magog, to nip this nascent kingdom of Moshiach in the bud, in order to break free from the attempt to control their lives" (Rabbi Avraham Chaim Carmell, Hamodia July 24 2014)