hindu nazi on youtube

[Shlomo]

This is absurd.  What do any of us know about Hinduism?

Jeff, what do you know about Hinduism?  How do you know what SherePunjab is saying isn't true?

I know quite a bit about Hinduism, Scriabin. I do not agree with their beliefs (much like I do not agree with Christian beliefs) but it does not do JTF any favors to isolate our Hindu friends.

[Joe Schmo]

This is absurd.  What do any of us know about Hinduism?

Jeff, what do you know about Hinduism?  How do you know what SherePunjab is saying isn't true?

I know quite a bit about Hinduism, Scriabin. I do not agree with their beliefs (much like I do not agree with Christian beliefs) but it does not do JTF any favors to isolate our Hindu friends.

So, you side with Hindus because they outnumber Sikhs...is this correct?

[jdl4ever]

I'm interested in hearing the man's point of view. 

[Shlomo]

With private messages like:

"Do you even know f**k all about hindu extremism or are you just saying these things to save your relationship with the hindus?"

And his wording on this post:

"The jews on here that are for this kind of human medical experimentations are no different than the nazis who killed 6 million of your own."

And being called a nazi... I have banned this user and I am shocked that no one person had any problem with this.

Just as I defend the Christians on this forum, I also defend the Hindus.

[jdl4ever]

I would give him a chance and unban him.  He may have a point for all you know and you may be mistaken about Hinduism.  Hear the man out and don't be so swift to judge him.

[ftf]

I personally think he has some valid points even if he did get carried away. I think you've been a bit hasty here Jeff.

[newman]

Sorry, some of you folks are being a bit hard on Jeff. This poster did slam Hindus pretty hard. It's not necessary. Hindus have never been a problem to JTF or Jews. He was warned more than once, and do we want to drive away good Hindus like ArtGijo?

[cosmokramer]

IDK. I was trying to be fair and balanced here. But it seems this guy is off. Was he personally threatining members?

[ftf]

Sorry, some of you folks are being a bit hard on Jeff. This poster did slam Hindus pretty hard. It's not necessary. Hindus have never been a problem to JTF or Jews. He was warned more than once, and do we want to drive away good Hindus like ArtGijo?

Hindus may not hav ever been a problem to JTF, but how do you know that there have not been large numbers of Hindus doing bad things? With no evidence you can make no judgement.

[newman]

Sorry, some of you folks are being a bit hard on Jeff. This poster did slam Hindus pretty hard. It's not necessary. Hindus have never been a problem to JTF or Jews. He was warned more than once, and do we want to drive away good Hindus like ArtGijo?

Hindus may not hav ever been a problem to JTF, but how do you know that there have not been large numbers of Hindus doing bad things? With no evidence you can make no judgement.

If this is so, Chaim would never support them.

There have been large numbers of christians doing bad things too, but we're not allowed to slam them, are we?

[Daniel]

Sorry, some of you folks are being a bit hard on Jeff. This poster did slam Hindus pretty hard. It's not necessary. Hindus have never been a problem to JTF or Jews. He was warned more than once, and do we want to drive away good Hindus like ArtGijo?

Hindus may not hav ever been a problem to JTF, but how do you know that there have not been large numbers of Hindus doing bad things? With no evidence you can make no judgement.

You're exactly right that with no evidence you can make no judgment. The Hindus don't have any burden to prove their absense of doing bad things. It's up to the person who claims they do bad things to show evidence and prove this is true. He who asserts an affirmative proposition must prove that proposition. The burden does not rest of proving a negative proposition. That's like saying you don't have any evidence the tooth fairy doesn't exist. Therefore, it might exist.

[judeanoncapta]

I don't think that this guy should have been banned.

Alot of people say alot of wild things about people who might be our allies.
AngryChineseManiac is one of our funniest posters and yet I have seen some posters make fun of Chinese.

Those posters were not banned.

Why is it so important to not offend hindus but not Chinese?

[ftf]

Sorry, some of you folks are being a bit hard on Jeff. This poster did slam Hindus pretty hard. It's not necessary. Hindus have never been a problem to JTF or Jews. He was warned more than once, and do we want to drive away good Hindus like ArtGijo?

Hindus may not hav ever been a problem to JTF, but how do you know that there have not been large numbers of Hindus doing bad things? With no evidence you can make no judgement.

If this is so, Chaim would never support them.

There have been large numbers of christians doing bad things too, but we're not allowed to slam them, are we?

We can slam the minorities who do the bad things. I will assist in doing so.

[newman]

We can slam the minorities who dot he bad things. I will assist in doing so.

I bet their sh*tting themselves now.

[ftf]

We can slam the minorities who dot he bad things. I will assist in doing so.

I bet their sh*tting themselves now.

newman, why do you always purposely put false meanings into what I say?

[newman]

We can slam the minorities who dot he bad things. I will assist in doing so.

I bet their sh*tting themselves now.

newman, why do you always purposely put false meanings into what I say?

Can't a man have a hobby?

[Joe Schmo]

We can slam the minorities who dot he bad things. I will assist in doing so.

I bet their sh*tting themselves now.

newman, why do you always purposely put false meanings into what I say?

Can't a man have a hobby?

Yeah, its called 'baiting people'.

I simply stopped engaging with Newman once he admitted to this.

[newman]

We can slam the minorities who dot he bad things. I will assist in doing so.

I bet their sh*tting themselves now.

newman, why do you always purposely put false meanings into what I say?

Can't a man have a hobby?

Yeah, its called 'baiting people'.

I simply stopped engaging with Newman once he admitted to this.

Party pooper

[Dexter]

We can slam the minorities who dot he bad things. I will assist in doing so.

I bet their sh*tting themselves now.

newman, why do you always purposely put false meanings into what I say?

Can't a man have a hobby?

Yeah, its called 'baiting people'.

I simply stopped engaging with Newman once he admitted to this.

You are so funny scriabin ! 

[ape]

Instead of arguing, did all of you guys email Oreilly to get Chaim on:

[email protected]

[Dave the Marine]

I am new and probably out of line, but it seemed to me the guy was heading down a very dangerous path, and was asked to turn back several times but he charged ahead.  The word he chose to use was inappropriate in my opionion.  He should have put is reasons in the PM like he was asked.  Seems to me when the moderator of a forum ask you to explain in a PM the discussion should be over until you do just that, seems fair to me.  I am not well versed on the relationship of Hindus and Sikhs nor do I know that much about their religion.   After all  I thought this was more about the Islamic threat to us all, fighting amongst are selves is doing their work for them.  I am an atheist, religiously speaking I don't agree with many of you.  But from the point of view of human morality I am with you 100 percent.  I have seen close up what Islam does to the free people of the US and Israel.  I was in Beirut, Lebanon with the Marines in 1982, I don't give a hoot about what some single Christian did to a single Jewish person or what one Jewish person might have done to a Christian person.  The bottom line is as Ben Franklin so well put it ...... We must hang together or we will surely hang seperately.  Just my 2 cents
thanks for listening. 

[newman]

I am new and probably out of line, but it seemed to me the guy was heading down a very dangerous path, and was asked to turn back several times but he charged ahead.  The word he chose to use was inappropriate in my opionion.  He should have put is reasons in the PM like he was asked.  Seems to me when the moderator of a forum ask you to explain in a PM the discussion should be over until you do just that, seems fair to me.  I am not well versed on the relationship of Hindus and Sikhs nor do I know that much about their religion.   After all  I thought this was more about the Islamic threat to us all, fighting amongst are selves is doing their work for them.  I am an atheist, religiously speaking I don't agree with many of you.  But from the point of view of human morality I am with you 100 percent.  I have seen close up what Islam does to the free people of the US and Israel.  I was in Beirut, Lebanon with the Marines in 1982, I don't give a hoot about what some single Christian did to a single Jewish person or what one Jewish person might have done to a Christian person.  The bottom line is as Ben Franklin so well put it ...... We must hang together or we will surely hang seperately.  Just my 2 cents
thanks for listening. 

That was pretty well dead on , Dave. I saw the whole thing.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Newman, I agree with your overall philosophy here but I do not appreciate you baiting FTF. This infighting makes us a laughingstock to the people we are trying to save.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Jeffguy, after reading what you posted I agree this guy needed to be banned. He should have been allowed to make a case as to why Hindu extremism is bad, but he did not do that. He just flamed everyone and called them Nazis.

As for Sikhs, they are a real mixed bag. The Babbar Khalsa was a big Sikh terrorist group that operated about twenty years ago and was allied with Muslims and was being backed by Pakistan. They did some pretty horrible things. At the same time, I do not believe all Sikhs stood for them--probably not even the majority. Thousands of Sikhs have also been victims of Muslim Nazi mass murder.

I say we treat them on a case-by-case basis if more of them join the forum. They are an odd group, but we can't forget that they are, at most, a misled group. The real enemies in south Asia are the Pakistani and Tamil Muslim Nazis.

Somebody should have asked this fool what he thinks of Pakistan and the LTTE before he was banned, but I have a feeling we would not have liked the answer considering how he went off on Jeffguy. 

[SikhsUnited]

Jeffguy, after reading what you posted I agree this guy needed to be banned. He should have been allowed to make a case as to why Hindu extremism is bad, but he did not do that. He just flamed everyone and called them Nazis.

As for Sikhs, they are a real mixed bag. The Babbar Khalsa was a big Sikh terrorist group that operated about twenty years ago and was allied with Muslims and was being backed by Pakistan. They did some pretty horrible things. At the same time, I do not believe all Sikhs stood for them--probably not even the majority. Thousands of Sikhs have also been victims of Muslim Nazi mass murder.

I say we treat them on a case-by-case basis if more of them join the forum. They are an odd group, but we can't forget that they are, at most, a misled group. The real enemies in south Asia are the Pakistani and Tamil Muslim Nazis.

Somebody should have asked this fool what he thinks of Pakistan and the LTTE before he was banned, but I have a feeling we would not have liked the answer considering how he went off on Jeffguy. 

How was I supposed to talk about Hindu Extremism when I was warned by jeffguy that I can't talk about it? I have a strong feeling he didn't because he only wants to save the relationship between the JTF and Hindu Extremism no matter what they have done or how many genocidal crimes they have committed against the Sikhs and Christians. The big misconception going on by a lot of members here is that Hindu Extremism is the same as Hinduism. This is totally false, they are two totallty different religions. Hinduism teaches pacifism and PEACE (Yes I just said that) but Hindu Extremism preaches that all religions are inferior and should be ablolished with violence and force. They use the same ideology as Nazism. If there was a sizable jewish community living in India right now there would be doubt in my mind that they would have commited acts of genocide against them as well. The only reason they support the JTF is because of their strong hate for Islam which is understandable but that is the only reason. They see pretty much all religions as their enemies (their record shows) Sikhs and Hindus have been the best of freinds for centuries and we always protected and have made India strong (sikhs only make 2 percent of India's population but 70 percent of India's army.) This all changed in the 1980s when the the province of Punjab (where the majority of sikhs live) was being taken advantage of by the Extremist Hindu government at that time. This led to the Sikh people wanting their own nation which is Punjab state in India right now. The Sikhs were trying to peacefully negotiate with the extremist government for the independance of the Sikh state but they turned a deaf hear and instead took away some of our freedoms and rights when India was know as the "largest democracy in the world" because of the increasing popularity of a seperate sikh country amongst the sikh people. When popularity was at its highest the Hindu goverment felt  threatened and did what Sikhs will never forget and that is attack the holiest shrine of the Sikhs known as the Golden Temple in Amritsar. It was known as Operation Bluestar. Babbar Khalsa (a sikh nationalist movement) may have done some horrible things out of revenge for this but that in no way compares to slaughter of hundred of innocent Sikh worshippers at our shrine. Killing every single child, woman, man, elder there was with no remorse. And some people on here think I am out of my mind when i say hindu extremists are a bunch of Nazis? Absolutely False. How would the Jews feel if they were praying at their wailing wall in Jerusalem and all of a sudden the Hamas military came and slaughtered all the innocent Jews who were worshipping there? Think about that. This is exactly how the sikhs feel. And this is the reason for our anti-hindu extremist hatred. I hope you all understand and that all ignorance is gone.

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