Cruz Responds to Caitlyn Jenner Using Women’s Bathroom at Trump Tower

[Shlomo]

http://jtf.org/cruz-responds-to-caitlyn-jenner-taking-trump-up-on-his-offer-to-use-womens-bathroom-at-trump-tower/

[nessuno]

Isn't this just Bruce Jenner in a dress and heels?    It all seems so fake and weird to me.
He is an attention seeker.  A man that mutilated himself for fame.  Trying to outdo his stepdaughters.
Being that he is still a man, for all intents and purposes, he should go to the men's room.

Trump should be ashamed of himself.  He is the father of daughters.
I guess his children never have to use a public restroom.
Most sane women are terrified to go into or be in a public restroom alone.
Now they really have to worry.  It's pure madness.

I give Cruz credit.  At least he doesn't pander.

[Zelhar]

I agree of with Caitlyn Jenner on this issue. Boys can get molested too, by men. I think there shouldn't be bathrooms laws at all but every establishment decides their own.  I don't think people should be asked for ID when they walk into a bathroom. There are lots of places were pedophiles and rapists can lurk and we can't outlaw the place, we outlaw the offense; they can lurk in the playground, in Church or Synagogue, in School, at home, on the street . . .

[nessuno]

I agree of with Caitlyn Jenner on this issue. Boys can get molested too, by men. I think there shouldn't be bathrooms laws at all but every establishment decides their own.  I don't think people should be asked for ID when they walk into a bathroom. There are lots of places were pedophiles and rapists can lurk and we can't outlaw the place, we outlaw the offense; they can lurk in the playground, in Church or Synagogue, in School, at home, on the street . . .

Boys not old enough to defend themselves should not be sent into the bathroom alone.
I don't know one mother who does that.  Because, yes, even boys can get molested.
How does that impact having men use the ladies room?

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Boys not old enough to defend themselves should not be sent into the bathroom alone.
I don't know one mother who does that.  Because, yes, even boys can get molested.
How does that impact having men use the ladies room?

Exactly.

Zelhar you're mistaken on this one.  Until now, (or until caitlyn?), there was prevalent cultural norm and self evident taboo for a man to enter the ladies room.  A woman seeing such a man in the ladies room would likely assume the man is insane, homeless, or otherwise dangerous and likely report it to security who would likely escort the man out.  When you break down this social and cultural barrier like the anarchic leftists desire to, it will become "accepted" for men to enter women's bathroom regularly and reporting him will result in a lawsuit.  Women are not as physically strong as men and there is a reason men don't enter currently.

[angryChineseKahanist]

This laboratory animal was installed to get "conservatives", "right-wingers", and "republicans" on the commie-tard freak side.
The goal is to be able to say: here's a freak and he is a conservative right-wing republican. He is NOT one of us and will never be!
Oh look, he's a freak and he opposes freakism.
Do not fall for this evil plot. I will never accept it or any other freak like it.

[Dr. Dan]

I agree of with Caitlyn Jenner on this issue. Boys can get molested too, by men. I think there shouldn't be bathrooms laws at all but every establishment decides their own.  I don't think people should be asked for ID when they walk into a bathroom. There are lots of places were pedophiles and rapists can lurk and we can't outlaw the place, we outlaw the offense; they can lurk in the playground, in Church or Synagogue, in School, at home, on the street . . .

Good point.  And I'll add, how comfortable would i feel being in a bathroom with a man dressed as a woman?

[Dr. Dan]

Exactly.

Zelhar you're mistaken on this one.  Until now, (or until caitlyn?), there was prevalent cultural norm and self evident taboo for a man to enter the ladies room.  A woman seeing such a man in the ladies room would likely assume the man is insane, homeless, or otherwise dangerous and likely report it to security who would likely escort the man out.  When you break down this social and cultural barrier like the anarchic leftists desire to, it will become "accepted" for men to enter women's bathroom regularly and reporting him will result in a lawsuit.  Women are not as physically strong as men and there is a reason men don't enter currently.

And your point brings everything back down to earth.

[Zelhar]

I think you need more common sense and less legislation. A perv of any gender shouldn't be allowed in and be subject to enforcement of the laws. If you see a man hanging inside the ladies bathroom and perving them then you report it to security and they kick him out. If you see a trans-something just walking in to use the bathroom, wash their hands and go on their way you let them be. And private establishments should just set their own standards.

Either that or you can say there are the ladies room and then then everything else, or, if a room for humans with a penis, and a room for humans without one.

Anyway, I don't think this discussion should be taken to the issue of safety and security, nor to the issue of suicide rate of trans genders. And I also don't want handicapped people who must use the special facility to get the short end of that insanity either. So, there shouldn't be a special facility for trannies.

Exactly.

Zelhar you're mistaken on this one.  Until now, (or until caitlyn?), there was prevalent cultural norm and self evident taboo for a man to enter the ladies room.  A woman seeing such a man in the ladies room would likely assume the man is insane, homeless, or otherwise dangerous and likely report it to security who would likely escort the man out.  When you break down this social and cultural barrier like the anarchic leftists desire to, it will become "accepted" for men to enter women's bathroom regularly and reporting him will result in a lawsuit.  Women are not as physically strong as men and there is a reason men don't enter currently.

[Zelhar]

If a man just use the ladies room for its purpose the worst that comes out of it is urine on the floor. Which is why there should be a strict sit only policy in the ladies room.

Boys not old enough to defend themselves should not be sent into the bathroom alone.
I don't know one mother who does that.  Because, yes, even boys can get molested.
How does that impact having men use the ladies room?

[Tony Rubolotta]

If we were a sane and virtuous nation, this topic would never see the light of day.  Since the people of this country have installed politicians who are not virtuous and who then appoint judges and bureaucrats who are not virtuous, every perversion is now a hot button topic.  I include abortion in that category.

To the elitist, this is contest between them and G-d for your obedience.  They do it because they can and no one stops them.  They  seduce others to join them in the same spirit that if it feels good, it is good.  Elitism is and always has been the enemy of good, whether it is rampant in the Democrat party or an infestation in the Republican party.

Does anyone doubt that Trump is an elitist from the positions he takes on such a wide variety of issues that in a virtuous nation would never see the light of day?  It would be a mistake to assume any politician is 100% virtuous and invest all trust in them, but there is a tipping point where one can be more virtuous than evil.  Cruz has faults but is in my estimation, more virtuous than evil.  Trump wants to show you who is boss, virtue be damned.

[Dr. Dan]

If we were a sane and virtuous nation, this topic would never see the light of day.  Since the people of this country have installed politicians who are not virtuous and who then appoint judges and bureaucrats who are not virtuous, every perversion is now a hot button topic.  I include abortion in that category.

To the elitist, this is contest between them and G-d for your obedience.  They do it because they can and no one stops them.  They  seduce others to join them in the same spirit that if it feels good, it is good.  Elitism is and always has been the enemy of good, whether it is rampant in the Democrat party or an infestation in the Republican party.

Does anyone doubt that Trump is an elitist from the positions he takes on such a wide variety of issues that in a virtuous nation would never see the light of day?  It would be a mistake to assume any politician is 100% virtuous and invest all trust in them, but there is a tipping point where one can be more virtuous than evil.  Cruz has faults but is in my estimation, more virtuous than evil.  Trump wants to show you who is boss, virtue be damned.

Welcome to the forum

[cjd]

Have mercy this is some thread  Bruce Jenner don't look half bad if you into large females with big hands I am not going to ruminate any further than that   The bottom line here is the new building code is going to have to require  a number of small bathrooms with a bowl and sink with a door that has a lock that tells if the room is occupied... Once the door is opened there can not be any divider that allows anyone in there to hide behind... Society has become so sick that it is no longer safe to use a public  restroom and not be concerned of sexual deviants of all sorts being in places they do not belong... Personally I could care less about this issue however by allowing the confused into the female restroom they are also allowing sexual abusers to do the same.

[Chiram]

One of our biggest problems is the sorry state of who passes for our "Elites".

Instead of cultivating refinement and pursuing excellence, weakness and depravity are the new norms in the face of unbelievable cruelty.

Our so-called Elites are obsessed with over-population, inheritance and political correctness, so they promote homosexuality and abortions for their own, while opening the flood gates to millions of muslim nazis who reproduce like third-worlders.

Spawning litters of offspring is the "women's jihad"

Multi-national corporations also encourage this suicidal dynamic so they can sell more stuff, since each person from a disintegrated family must buy products they used to share like washing machines, etc. while a third-world invasion brings cheap labour and new markets.

[nessuno]

Where have all the real men gone?
If you are a genuine man, I'm not sure how many there are today, you would not want to put women in precarious situations.  Just to satisfy the few.  You would want to protect and respect them.  A little common sense should be used to address the needs of ALL people.
 

If a man just use the ladies room for its purpose the worst that comes out of it is urine on the floor.
Which is why there should be a strict sit only policy in the ladies room.

  I don't find that funny at all Zelhar.  Are you comfortable with the women in your life being alone in the ladies room, with a man? 

[nessuno]

CJD is right.  Not about Bruce Jenner.
About individual bathrooms.  Especially, in schools. 

[cjd]

One of our biggest problems is the sorry state of who passes for our "Elites".

Instead of cultivating refinement and pursuing excellence, weakness and depravity are the new norms in the face of unbelievable cruelty.

Our so-called Elites are obsessed with over-population, inheritance and political correctness, so they promote homosexuality and abortions for their own, while opening the flood gates to millions of muslim nazis who reproduce like third-worlders.

Spawning litters of offspring is the "women's jihad"

Multi-national corporations also encourage this suicidal dynamic so they can sell more stuff, since each person from a disintegrated family must buy products they used to share like washing machines, etc. while a third-world invasion brings cheap labour and new markets.

Actually what has come to pass is what a so called anything goes feel good society  has worked towards for years... Who the beneficiary of this life style is is still open to evaluation by me but I believe it is a first step towards moving people away from any organized religion... Personally speaking once G-d is out of the picture there is no limits to how low people will allow themselves to sink... This is what happened to many of the great societies of the past that have fallen to rack and ruin.     

[Zelhar]

If what you say is correct then Men are going to have to get used to queuing up in line to use the toilette, it looks like the emasculation of the male will have been completed.

Have mercy this is some thread  Bruce Jenner don't look half bad if you into large females with big hands I am not going to ruminate any further than that   The bottom line here is the new building code is going to have to require  a number of small bathrooms with a bowl and sink with a door that has a lock that tells if the room is occupied... Once the door is opened there can not be any divider that allows anyone in there to hide behind... Society has become so sick that it is no longer safe to use a public  restroom and not be concerned of sexual deviants of all sorts being in places they do not belong... Personally I could care less about this issue however by allowing the confused into the female restroom they are also allowing sexual abusers to do the same.

[cjd]

If a man just use the ladies room for its purpose the worst that comes out of it is urine on the floor. Which is why there should be a strict sit only policy in the ladies room.

Some years back I went to a amusement park here on long Island called Splish Splash water park... My ex-wife said she was going to the rest room and I decided to do the same... I walked around the building and went into what I thought was the men's bathroom... I uses glasses which adjust to the sunlight so when I went in I  could not see much because the room was some what darker than the out doors... I got into the stall and saw  garbage can in the stall, something I never saw before... It caught my attention and I looked into it and saw female napkins    I then looked out the crack in the stall doors and saw that it was the female restroom    I figured my goose cooked  It was the filthiest bathroom stall I ever saw... Worst than in any men's  room... Let me say a little p-ss on the floor is not going to get much attention in the female restroom... A molester of one sort or another after the fact certainly will

[cjd]

If what you say is correct then Men are going to have to get used to queuing up in line to use the toilette, it looks like the emasculation of the male will have been completed.

That's a done deal they have been trying to remove the urinals from the grade school bathrooms for years now... The female rights people say when men urinate standing up it's an act of aggression ... They want men to sit like a little girl... By removing the urinals in grade school bathrooms they accomplish this goal

[angryChineseKahanist]

Where have all the real men gone?
If you are a genuine man, I'm not sure how many there are today, you would not want to put women in precarious situations.  Just to satisfy the few.  You would want to protect and respect them.  A little common sense should be used to address the needs of ALL people.
   I don't find that funny at all Zelhar.  Are you comfortable with the women in your life being alone in the ladies room, with a man?

Are you sure they're real men? Maybe they became women.

[nessuno]

Are you sure they're real men? Maybe they became women.

I think maybe they have become women.