Should birth control be a condition of welfare?

[newman]

With these:




producing these:



resulting in this:





............Should we link welfare to birth control?

[Erica]

With these:




producing these:



resulting in this:





............Should we link welfare to birth control?

Birth control should be give to people who can't take care of themselves let alone a kid.

[Ehud]

LOL.  Yes, I definitely think so.  After all, welfare is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT.  If you want to keep poppin' out babies, you have the choice to do that, but not on the taxpayer's expense.  After a woman gets off of welfare, she can continue to have children of course.  Just based on fairness to taxpayers, they should be forced to use some form of contraception.  I saw this plastic device that can be inserted and it functions almost like a woman getting her tubes tied except it is reversible.  I think something like that would be ideal.

It's also justified because of the positive effects the policy would bring.  Welfare is to help people get back on their feet, at least that's what it's SUPPOSED to do.  A woman having another child while on welfare is doing the exact opposite, it's creating an even greater financial burden on someone who is clearly not capable of supporting herself.  This can only ensure that a woman will stay on welfare longer, because she'll be out of the work force because of the birth and child-rearing responsibilities.  The bad effect that a birth during receiving welfare has on an already existing child would justify intervening to temporarily sterilize women receiving welfare.  That child is going to be put in an even worse financial situation with a new brother and sister, and he will most likely be less taken care for and given the sorts of resources that a child needs to become a successful person.  Also there's a concern for the mother of course, who will be prevented from going out and finding employment and fixing her life.  Not to mention the mentality of dependence and helplessness that staying on welfare gives to mother and child.     

[cjd]

Ze'ev you bring up the main argument civil rights folks have against limiting payments to people who keep having children while on relief. It seems that the only solution to making something like that work is a mandatory temporary sterilization program for folks who ask for assistance. I am not talking about the poor mother or father who come in asking for a few dollars of help in food stamps because the weekly paycheck is just stretched to thin. I am talking about folks who get the bulk of their support from government sources. I was told that years ago a case worker would visit the homes of people on relief and see that the money was being spent to maintain the household at whatever level the agency felt that it should be. Is this still the case today? If the parent gets the check from social services and then goes off and blows 2/3 of it on booze and lotto should this be able to go on? I really feel that the people to blame are the enablers of this sort of lifestyle that being the civil liberties people. I know if I had to have someone come in each month and look around my home and tell me what to do or not do I would be off that program as quick as I could. I knew a white fellow who grew up in a divorce situation in the late 1930's and early 40's. He would tell me how he hated when the social workers would come to his moms apartment to look around and tell them what was wrong. He grew up to be a hard worker because of the distaste and stigma of that sort of scrutiny. If programs were implemented like they were then with set rules instead of tossing money at people and allowing them to spend it as if they earned it themselves it would be a different show.   

[newman]

Unfortunately, CJD & Ze'ev......

You'll get the same tired, old argument:

" You can't do that! We were slaves. You owe us. We're victims. It's racism that makes us losers. And BTW, we invented everything and we're geniuses".

[MarZutra]

Newman, it is sad but what you say is very true.  The best example is all the propaganda surrounding New Orleans.  Not even police officers wanted to report for duty.  What does that suggest?  I agree with you on this issue 110%.  I'd also extend that if one is on welfare, or some sort of govermental dole, their right to vote is withheld.

In Canada, all the leftist parties prostitute themselves to all the blacks, Asians, Muslims, elderly and infirmed for votes.  Free vouchers, bus passes, taxi credits, bottles of rum etc. just to get them down to vote for their socialist parties...  Here in Canada, everyone gets to vote for the handout. I believe it was also extended to peoples in prison too can vote.  What a mess....

[newman]

I agree with you on this issue 110%.  I'd also extend that if one is on welfare, or some sort of govermental dole, their right to vote is withheld.

In Canada, all the leftist parties prostitute themselves to all the blacks, Asians, Muslims, elderly and infirmed for votes

Good point:

A man works hard, abides by the law, supports his family and does everything right and goes to vote in November. Unfortunately his vote is cancelled out by another man who's done nothing but sponge off society like a parasite and votes for which ever politician offers to steal the most from productive people to give to him.

No representation without taxation.

[fjack]

The liberals would pop an egg if this issue was ever talked about seriously. I remember watching phil donahue once where he had all these welfare moms on saying how it is their human right to have as many kids as they want, whether they could afford them or not. You must examine the 'mental outlook' of these recievers of the public dole. They actually believe that they deserve this largess from the public, it is their 'right', and we should mind our business and let them continue to do their business which is boozing, smoking crack and, you guessed it, pooping out more babies. It is the mindset that is the problem here. Take for instance, the katrina loafers, excuse me, victims. I saw a white hating show called 'like it is" where the white hating host, gil noble, went to one of the hotels that put up some of these 'victims'. One victim complained that the maids came too early to clean up the room, another one claimed that he could not go out to look for a job since oprah came on too late in the afternoon and by the time it ended, it was too late to start looking for a job. Another complained about the hotel food, she said her and her four children, no poppa, would rather have McDonalds, another, that the beer was always luke warm. With thinking like that it would seem the only answer for the halting of the birthrate amongst the 'indigent', would be strigent birth control. As soon as they wake up in the morning, before they crack open their first midnight express bottle of wine, before they load the first piece of crack, slam that birth control pill right down their throat. If that doesn't work, surgery, if that doesn't work, exile them.

[cjd]

I agree with you on this issue 110%.  I'd also extend that if one is on welfare, or some sort of govermental dole, their right to vote is withheld.

In Canada, all the leftist parties prostitute themselves to all the blacks, Asians, Muslims, elderly and infirmed for votes

Good point:

A man works hard, abides by the law, supports his family and does everything right and goes to vote in November. Unfortunately his vote is cancelled out by another man who's done nothing but sponge off society like a parasite and votes for which ever politician offers to steal the most from productive people to give to him.

No representation without taxation.

What you said there newman really would solve everything "No representation without taxation" This would solve 90 of the societies problems. If this was only able to be made into law it would be a better world.

[HiWarp]

I agree with you on this issue 110%.  I'd also extend that if one is on welfare, or some sort of govermental dole, their right to vote is withheld.

In Canada, all the leftist parties prostitute themselves to all the blacks, Asians, Muslims, elderly and infirmed for votes

Good point:

A man works hard, abides by the law, supports his family and does everything right and goes to vote in November. Unfortunately his vote is cancelled out by another man who's done nothing but sponge off society like a parasite and votes for which ever politician offers to steal the most from productive people to give to him.

No representation without taxation.

What you said there newman really would solve everything "No representation without taxation" This would solve 90 of the societies problems. If this was only able to be made into law it would be a better world.

Interesting catch-22 scenario.  The only people that can make this law are the people that benefit from not making the law.  I won't hold my breath.

[mosquewatch]

Should birth control be a condition of welfare?

Yes.

[Hail Columbia]

Why stop there?  I think that all welfare recipients should be denied the right to vote, so that they cannot vote themselves into the public treasury, to which that they themselves have not contributed towards.

[EagleEye]

Morally I dislike birth control because I prefer abstinence, but this may be a situation where a lesser evil solution must be accepted, because blacks act like animals when it comes to having children they can't afford.

[Erica]

Should birth control be a condition of welfare?

Yes.

It should be included in the policy, definately.

[takebackourtemple]

   Why even give welfare to this piece of trash? Notice how fat the women are and how scrawny the children are. That's because the woman uses all the money for herself. If not for breast milk, the children would have no food at all. Maybe in Africa, these fat beasts are mistaken for cattle and that is why cannibalism is rampant.
   Oooo this picture makes me sick. I just don't see how the self hating Jews can look at these images and see anything more than sub-human. Why on earth do they want this trash to have more rights than decent people?
   And this is not even a race issue. A fat white breeding degenerates also makes me sick.

[Erica]

   Why even give welfare to this piece of trash? Notice how fat the women are and how scrawny the children are. That's because the woman uses all the money for herself. If not for breast milk, the children would have no food at all. Maybe in Africa, these fat beasts are mistaken for cattle and that is why cannibalism is rampant.
   Oooo this picture makes me sick. I just don't see how the self hating Jews can look at these images and see anything more than sub-human. Why on earth do they want this trash to have more rights than decent people?
   And this is not even a race issue. A fat white breeding degenerates also makes me sick.

And you're under the impression that your post is even remotely 'decent' or 'moral'? You don't like evil blacks (understandably so because I hate them as well) but then you SPEAK like an evil person. I don't get it.

[MarZutra]

In my opinion Welfare should be eliminated in its entirety.  Birth control should also not be paid from our tax dollars but worked on a credit system so that when that individual gets off CHARITY, not welfare, they can re-imburse the State or the Charity Organization, from their pay checks, the costs of birth control as well make charitable donations. 

[takebackourtemple]

   Why even give welfare to this piece of trash? Notice how fat the women are and how scrawny the children are. That's because the woman uses all the money for herself. If not for breast milk, the children would have no food at all. Maybe in Africa, these fat beasts are mistaken for cattle and that is why cannibalism is rampant.
   Oooo this picture makes me sick. I just don't see how the self hating Jews can look at these images and see anything more than sub-human. Why on earth do they want this trash to have more rights than decent people?
   And this is not even a race issue. A fat white breeding degenerates also makes me sick.

And you're under the impression that your post is even remotely 'decent' or 'moral'? You don't like evil blacks (understandably so because I hate them as well) but then you SPEAK like an evil person. I don't get it.

   How is it evil to want to keep my tax money which I work hard for and to be concerned about the few innocent children who are starved because their mother doesn't feed them? It is evident by her size that the food does exist. The media chooses to show the starving children instead of the fat mother because that is what moves people.
   A good mother has children because she wants to provide everything for them. A bad one has children for the sake of owning property. In this case, the beast collects additional revenue through welfare and foodstamps for every child she has. Maybe also child support in some cases. The only reason she doesn't want the children to die is that she will lose this revenue.

[fjack]

I once read a nutty response from some affrimative action 'professor' who said the reason that the primitives have so many offspring is that it is the only pleasure they have in life. He went on to say that the racism in this society holds the negro back so much that the only pleasure the negro feels is through uncontrolled sex, whether it be in public parks, subways etc. He said that due to racism they cannot not keep their carnal urges in check. All welfare should be done away with. Let the white hating churches take care of the underclass, which also includes white trash, junkies, whores and the offspring of such. We should start taxing all religious institutions since they hate us so much. If they do not like our criminal laws, our laws against invaders to our country, hate white people who oppose their pandering, then it is safe to assume that they hate our internal revenue laws, so let us bend and take away their tax exemption status.

[MarZutra]

I once read a nutty response from some affrimative action 'professor' who said the reason that the primitives have so many offspring is that it is the only pleasure they have in life. He went on to say that the racism in this society holds the negro back so much that the only pleasure the negro feels is through uncontrolled sex, whether it be in public parks, subways etc. He said that due to racism they cannot not keep their carnal urges in check. All welfare should be done away with. Let the white hating churches take care of the underclass, which also includes white trash, junkies, whores and the offspring of such. We should start taxing all religious institutions since they hate us so much. If they do not like our criminal laws, our laws against invaders to our country, hate white people who oppose their pandering, then it is safe to assume that they hate our internal revenue laws, so let us bend and take away their tax exemption status.

That was funny.  I agree with what you say although I'd do away with tax funding welfare for Church Charity in that the recipients of these funds must qualify to receive any aid from any religious institution.  If they do not and resort to crime, these people can be deported to Africa, Russia or Mexico or tossed into prison and work on Chaingangs if they are true citizens until the debt is repayed or they are able to be placed in meniel jobs in order to build some sort of contributory life.... 

I would have asked your professor if that be the case would it not be due to their continual expression of primitive hunter/gatherer cultural specificities and not "racism" that causes their sub-human deeds?  Perhaps sexual pleasure is the only gratification they can receive due to continually embracing the mentality and "cultural" specificites of the primate/animal?  Reminds me of that book "The Naked Ape"...