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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2018, 05:26:11 PM »
"It's almost like they don't actually want a representative democracy." I don't. I prefer a hereditary monarchy. If Europe had hereditary monarchies, the muslims would not be able to outvote us. 

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2018, 07:31:08 PM »
"It's almost like they don't actually want a representative democracy." I don't. I prefer a hereditary monarchy. If Europe had hereditary monarchies, the muslims would not be able to outvote us.

Europe never left laws in place to force kings to control their ego. Power is a corrupting influence, decentralization is best as much as conceivably possible. Queen Merkel?
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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2018, 08:21:50 PM »
Europe never left laws in place to force kings to control their ego. Power is a corrupting influence, decentralization is best as much as conceivably possible. Queen Merkel?

The fear of a king and the fear of G‑d are actually one: https://www.sie.org/templates/sie/article_cdo/aid/2640975/jewish/A-Judgment-of-Truth-and-Mercy-Section-1.htm

According to the Torah Law for Gentiles, the laws of a ruling government are binding in regard to economic matters. Even if a government and the majority or the entirety of a society will decide to make laws that permit things which are always forbidden by Torah Law, such as Islam, there is no substance to those laws in G-d's eyes, and there is no permission to engage in those "legal" activities. So the power of a king is limited by Torah Law.

It may be a tradition in a country that once a king is established as the ruler, one of his children will inherit that position after him, and the people will automatically accept him as their new king. This is permitted for Gentiles. 

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2018, 11:48:54 PM »
The fear of a king and the fear of G‑d are actually one: https://www.sie.org/templates/sie/article_cdo/aid/2640975/jewish/A-Judgment-of-Truth-and-Mercy-Section-1.htm

According to the Torah Law for Gentiles, the laws of a ruling government are binding in regard to economic matters. Even if a government and the majority or the entirety of a society will decide to make laws that permit things which are always forbidden by Torah Law, such as Islam, there is no substance to those laws in G-d's eyes, and there is no permission to engage in those "legal" activities. So the power of a king is limited by Torah Law.

It may be a tradition in a country that once a king is established as the ruler, one of his children will inherit that position after him, and the people will automatically accept him as their new king. This is permitted for Gentiles.

They aren't one, they're similar like the fear of a son to a father.

That has no relevance to what I said. Power will corrupt you and make you want to do corrupt things. Only by a strict routine that keeps you humble every day can your humanity hope to stay intact after such a corrupting influence. European kings made life hell with their pride, and that wouldn't be fun.

If you don't want muslims, you don't need dictatorship. You just need morality, and the population will not stand for them.
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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2018, 12:47:12 AM »
They aren't one, they're similar like the fear of a son to a father.

That has no relevance to what I said. Power will corrupt you and make you want to do corrupt things. Only by a strict routine that keeps you humble every day can your humanity hope to stay intact after such a corrupting influence. European kings made life hell with their pride, and that wouldn't be fun.

If you don't want muslims, you don't need dictatorship. You just need morality, and the population will not stand for them.

You can call it dictatorship if you wish, but according to Torah Law the government controls the economy. The free market is not a Torah concept.

In many ways today's representative democracies are more dictatorial and corrupt than the old European monarchies. They make life hell with their muslims. I assure you that life in modern Europe is not fun.

In any event, I am not necessarily talking about the old monarchies. I am discussing what to do now. I do prefer a hereditary and theocratic monarchy to representative democracy. 

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2018, 05:51:19 PM »
There is also a rise in goyim converting to deformed judaism and being antizionist. Like we need more! Ocasio Cortez being one example.

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2019, 11:19:35 AM »
You can call it dictatorship if you wish, but according to Torah Law the government controls the economy. The free market is not a Torah concept.

In many ways today's representative democracies are more dictatorial and corrupt than the old European monarchies. They make life hell with their muslims. I assure you that life in modern Europe is not fun.

In any event, I am not necessarily talking about the old monarchies. I am discussing what to do now. I do prefer a hereditary and theocratic monarchy to representative democracy.

There was basically a free market under Judaism. Also, unlike Europe, the king had a series of checks and balances to keep him humble, he had to give respect to Sanhedrin and the Rabbis and had a serious routine of humility every day and wasn't like the medieval era where the king sits and drinks wine all day if he likes.

We can revisit the basic point here, but why hereditary? While I'm not a fan of monarchy outside of Torah, I personally tend to prefer monarchy where the king is so by virtue of being the strongest and most loved than by his blood.
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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2019, 12:08:38 PM »
We can revisit the basic point here, but why hereditary? While I'm not a fan of monarchy outside of Torah, I personally tend to prefer monarchy where the king is so by virtue of being the strongest and most loved than by his blood.

A hereditary monarchy is more stable. 

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2019, 02:31:47 PM »
There is also a rise in goyim converting to deformed judaism and being antizionist. Like we need more! Ocasio Cortez being one example.

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She is not a Jew... and she never converted.  She says she's a catholic, I think Jesuit.

She suddenly said she had 'Jewish Heritage' in response to Ben Shapiro after he rightly called her a Jew-hating, Israeli-hating leftist.

She said she had some ancestors that might have been sephardic, in spite of the fact that she never knew of a single ancestor that ever practiced the Jewish faith.

If she's Jewish, then I'm Cherokee Indian.

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2019, 03:27:16 PM »
Not only that, they had the PLO flag flying at the democratic convention in 2016

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2019, 03:35:04 PM »
Not only that, they had the PLO flag flying at the democratic convention in 2016

But they also had an Israeli flag..... no wait.... the flag was outside the convention being burned.

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2019, 05:19:18 PM »
But they also had an Israeli flag..... no wait.... the flag was outside the convention being burned.

It's the only alternative energy they're serious about.
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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2019, 03:28:46 PM »
It's the only alternative energy they're serious about.
That's true

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2019, 04:08:36 PM »
There is also a rise in goyim converting to deformed judaism and being antizionist. Like we need more! Ocasio Cortez being one example.

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The grossly misnamed "conservative" (sic) movement isn't any better it is nothing more than a more dishonest version of reform with some traditional ritualistic window dressing akin to a pig that shows you it's hooves to make you think that it is kosher when in fact it is treif!!!!!

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2019, 09:57:18 AM »
A hereditary monarchy is more stable.

If it's like a festival every four years where the king proves his military and political prowess, what's unstable, other than the fact that people don't want kings now?
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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2019, 10:52:54 PM »
If it's like a festival every four years where the king proves his military and political prowess, what's unstable, other than the fact that people don't want kings now?

A hereditary monarch is brought up to be a king. If you know who the king will be, the monarchy is more stable. 

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2019, 09:41:54 AM »
A hereditary monarch is brought up to be a king. If you know who the king will be, the monarchy is more stable.

Why? Could it not be equally stable that they believe in the process over the name?
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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2019, 09:39:17 PM »
Why? Could it not be equally stable that they believe in the process over the name?

Political processes are abstract. Men of flesh and blood are real. For a stable monarchy you need blood, not abstractions.   

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2019, 12:39:53 AM »
Thankfully,  the Islamic Congresswomen from Michigan and Minnesota respectively,  are making their true hideous intentions obvious.  The Taqiyya effective Islamists that get into office ( Obama in the U.S., Iqra Khalid in Canada as examples ) are the more dangerous types.
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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2019, 06:59:12 PM »
Thankfully,  the Islamic Congresswomen from Michigan and Minnesota respectively,  are making their true hideous intentions obvious.  The Taqiyya effective Islamists that get into office ( Obama in the U.S., Iqra Khalid in Canada as examples ) are the more dangerous types.

But nowadays... this just makes them more popular with the leftists.

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Re: Congress looking like an Islamic Republic
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2019, 02:50:56 PM »
But nowadays... this just makes them more popular with the leftists.


Agreed. 

Yet,  at least there will be more people, including elected officials, that will be willing to call them out.  They are making it easy to get resistance from the Right and even some from the Center-Left. 
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