The best economic way ?

[judeanoncapta]

When will people learn that in order to alleviate poverty, you must make it possible to get rich?

It amazing how most people don't understand this simple concept.

[Dexter]

It isn't an accident that the poor in capitalists countries ae richer than most people in the non-capitalist countries.

Socialism didn't make Hong Kong prosper.

Capitalism did.

Socialism didn't make America prosper.

Capitalism did.

The poor blacks in America are richer than the poors in Sweaden/Norway ?

 

Yes.

The poor in America are humungously fat.

humungously...means ??

Anyway..Sweaden is one of the richest countries in the whole country, and the sweaden GRP per Capita is very high :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/6/6a/20070221173640!Image-GRP_per_capita_Sweden.png

Just read how Sweaden is rich BECAUSE it is socialist :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Sweden

[Dexter]

When will people learn that in order to alleviate poverty, you must make it possible to get rich?

It amazing how most people don't understand this simple concept.

You can get rich in Socialism, it isn't communism .

[newman]

When will people learn that in order to alleviate poverty, you must make it possible to get rich?

It amazing how most people don't understand this simple concept.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel or envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - -- Winston Churchill

"We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." --- Winston Churchill

"Any man who is under 30, and is not a socialist, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains." --- Winston Churchill

[judeanoncapta]

It isn't an accident that the poor in capitalists countries ae richer than most people in the non-capitalist countries.

Socialism didn't make Hong Kong prosper.

Capitalism did.

Socialism didn't make America prosper.

Capitalism did.

The poor blacks in America are richer than the poors in Sweaden/Norway ?

 

Yes.

The poor in America are humungously fat.

humungously...means ??

Anyway..Sweaden is one of the richest countries in the whole country, and the sweaden GRP per Capita is very high :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/6/6a/20070221173640!Image-GRP_per_capita_Sweden.png

Just read how Sweaden is rich BECAUSE it is socialist :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Sweden

Bullcrap.

Commie propaganda. Sweden is an evil country that borrows it's prosperity.

Why don't we look at the economy of hong kong instead, Dexter?

[Dexter]

Bullcrap.

Commie propaganda. Sweden is an evil country that borrows it's prosperity.

Why don't we look at the economy of hong kong instead, Dexter?

Hong Kong is a City on an island for God's sake .
Do you prefer the country will be rich or it citizens ?

[judeanoncapta]

Bullcrap.

Commie propaganda. Sweden is an evil country that borrows it's prosperity.

Why don't we look at the economy of hong kong instead, Dexter?

Hong Kong is a City on an island for G-d's sake .
Do you prefer the country will be rich or it citizens ?

Exactly, Dexter. A city on an island with no natural resources.

The perfect laboratory for the capitalist experiment.

Hong Kong is filthy rich. Because of Capitalism.

Face it, Dexter.

Socialism doesn't work and capitalism does.

The sooner you realize that, the more money you'll begin to make.

[judeanoncapta]

And your second question contradicts itself. 

A rich country has rich citizens.

[Dexter]

Bullcrap.

Commie propaganda. Sweden is an evil country that borrows it's prosperity.

Why don't we look at the economy of hong kong instead, Dexter?

Hong Kong is a City on an island for G-d's sake .
Do you prefer the country will be rich or it citizens ?

Exactly, Dexter. A city on an island with no natural resources.

The perfect laboratory for the capitalist experiment.

Hong Kong is filthy rich. Because of Capitalism.

Face it, Dexter.

Socialism doesn't work and capitalism does.

The sooner you realize that, the more money you'll begin to make.

You can't compare a city with country like israel .
It's a fact that the Capitalism make people more poor, it is a fact in Israel, face it .

And your second question contradicts itself. 

A rich country has rich citizens.

That's why Israel become richer but it citizens become more poor ?
Wow, very impresive !

[Eitan]

free market.dexter those who control israeli economy,you know how evil they are.
they dont care about us,they dont care about the jewish ppl and to the israeli ecomy,those evil ppl is bringing to israel illegal aliens,becuse the jewish ppl in israel is sicken tired to work hard and to get  poor salary.
.they are selfish and egoist,they are atticted to money,even in socialism u will have poor.
it doesnt  matter if it's free market or socialism ,it depends on the ppl.instead of taking from us high tax,we will donate 5% or 10% frpm our salary  to poor ppl.if we give our money to the goverment,they will use the money for they own purpose.

in israel it doesnt  matter if it would be free market or socialism,we are agoist.
in israel ppl is working for the money,but most of them have problems with money.

[judeanoncapta]

You're right , Dexter.

Israel was much better off in the 70's with 300 percent inflation a year.

I concede the point.

[newman]

Japan is capitalist and it's MEGA $$$$$$$$$$$ RICH.

[Dr. Dan]

dannycookie57 :
Of course it is impossible to cancell the classes, but let's just reduce the gap between tham .

Besides, Pipi Netanyoyo, tried the wonderfull capitalism with his reforms, and now old people just get 81 shekels (One Shekel = quart of a US dollar) per month .
And, there are 1.5 milion poor people because of him .

Dexter, the Swedes pay OVER 50% in taxes in some income brackets. ALL socialist countries are high tax

Newman, did I said that the Sweadish Socialism is what I want ?
By the way, I would like refernces for your claims, it is very intresting .

Dexter the failure in ISrael was that you can't go straight from socialist to capitalist...that's what pipi was doing...it should be a gradual process so that thsoe who are used to socialism begin realizing they need to work harder or send their children for great education.  Secondly there should be the fewest number of poorest people and fewest number of the richest people..and then a lot in the middle.  Those who are the richest can stay rich but need to work harder than ever and stay smart to stay rich...and the poorest have the opportunity to go up the classes...

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

I hope all the Jewish billionairs give away a lot of their $, if this would happen their wouldnt be financial problems for Jews.

[Dexter]

You're right , Dexter.

Israel was much better off in the 70's with 300 percent inflation a year.

I concede the point.

It's hard for me to understand sarcasm in English, but I guess what you've said was in sarcasam .
Anyway, Socialism do better for those who work .

-==--But most of the people that respond here didn't say what economic way they support .-==-

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

anyway the amount of $ someone and a country has doesnt necessarily determine the quality of life its citizens will have. - Im not saying that I support Capitalism or socialism or any other ism, but it would be nice to see that if you are going to have more than average amount of kids that you wont have to worry about providing them with an education and other necessities. In Israel are good Yeshivot for free? or are they reduced priced? Here it costs thousands of dollers ever year ($5,000- $10,000) and its really unpleasent even thinking about it. (and its bullsh*t, becuase people in public schools go for free while sending kids to yeshiva costs a lot of $, gov. doesnt give them any $. even though we all pay taxes, and they are allways having problems financially and teachers a lot of times get their payments delayed).
- I wish that life would be a lot more simpler, fewer working hours and people not having a materialistic outlook.

[Daniel]

And your second question contradicts itself. 

A rich country has rich citizens.

Do you think this applies to the US as well? The way I see it, the US is a very rich country where most of its people are poor or lower class.

[Vito]

Anyway..Sweaden is one of the richest countries in the whole country, and the sweaden GRP per Capita is very high :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/6/6a/20070221173640!Image-GRP_per_capita_Sweden.png

Just read how Sweaden is rich BECAUSE it is socialist :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Sweden

Dexter - Norway, Sweden and Finland are EXCEPTIONS.. don't use them as examples.

Norway has less than 5 million, Sweden 10 million and Finland 6 million.... those extremely small populations are sitting on the riches of the North Sea. That's the only reason why they're able to give their people 2 months of sick days, 3 year maternal leave etc. But it makes them lazy - productivity has dropped significantly in Scandinavia over the past 30 years because of their socialist government. Europeans even have jokes about "lazy Swedes".

Now all these Muslims are coming in and receiving the same benefits.. what happens when they populate and the oil runs out?

Their economies don't work BECAUSE of socialism, they work DESPITE socialism.

[judeanoncapta]

The poor and lower classes of America are majority obese.

I think that says something about poor being redefined in America.

[Vito]

The poor and lower classes of America are majority obese.

I think that says something about poor being redefined in America.

Who's poor in America? Melangianas and belly rubbers and some white trash... look at their diets - fried chicken / rice, beans and tacos... of course they're going to be fat.

[Dexter]

Anyway..Sweaden is one of the richest countries in the whole country, and the sweaden GRP per Capita is very high :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/6/6a/20070221173640!Image-GRP_per_capita_Sweden.png

Just read how Sweaden is rich BECAUSE it is socialist :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Sweden

Dexter - Norway, Sweden and Finland are EXCEPTIONS.. don't use them as examples.

Norway has less than 5 million, Sweden 10 million and Finland 6 million.... those extremely small populations are sitting on the riches of the North Sea. That's the only reason why they're able to give their people 2 months of sick days, 3 year maternal leave etc. But it makes them lazy - productivity has dropped significantly in Scandinavia over the past 30 years because of their socialist government. Europeans even have jokes about "lazy Swedes".

Now all these Muslims are coming in and receiving the same benefits.. what happens when they populate and the oil runs out?

Their economies don't work BECAUSE of socialism, they work DESPITE socialism.

So they have those Jokes..so ?
We have jokes that Russians stinks and more...so ?

It's a fact that it works, and no, 3 countries are no EXCEPTIONS .
In Israel only 5.2-5.5 milion are Jews, socialism is encouraging to work, and work hard, and as I said, I want Justice, Capitalism give some fat rich people the option to steal from you over and over, in the Captalism way the rich will stay rich, because they taking money from other people, and the poor will stay poor because some people are taking money from tham .

Does it make sense that 0.2 of the people will hold 90%+ of the assets in Israel ?
NO!

About the Muslim problem, read my last posts on this topic .

[Ultra Requete]

Anyway..Sweaden is one of the richest countries in the whole country, and the sweaden GRP per Capita is very high :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/6/6a/20070221173640!Image-GRP_per_capita_Sweden.png

Just read how Sweaden is rich BECAUSE it is socialist :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Sweden

Dexter - Norway, Sweden and Finland are EXCEPTIONS.. don't use them as examples.

Norway has less than 5 million, Sweden 10 million and Finland 6 million.... those extremely small populations are sitting on the riches of the North Sea. That's the only reason why they're able to give their people 2 months of sick days, 3 year maternal leave etc. But it makes them lazy - productivity has dropped significantly in Scandinavia over the past 30 years because of their socialist government. Europeans even have jokes about "lazy Swedes".

Now all these Muslims are coming in and receiving the same benefits.. what happens when they populate and the oil runs out?

Their economies don't work BECAUSE of socialism, they work DESPITE socialism.

So they have those Jokes..so ?
We have jokes that Russians stinks and more...so ?

It's a fact that it works, and no, 3 countries are no EXCEPTIONS .
In Israel only 5.2-5.5 milion are Jews, socialism is encouraging to work, and work hard, and as I said, I want Justice, Capitalism give some fat rich people the option to steal from you over and over, in the Captalism way the rich will stay rich, because they taking money from other people, and the poor will stay poor because some people are taking money from tham .

Does it make sense that 0.2 of the people will hold 90%+ of the assets in Israel ?
NO!

About the Muslim problem, read my last posts on this topic .

Dexter it's quite oposite; socialism encourage people to steal not work; Belive I lived in socialist country for 15 years of my life and it was all about waste of time, human talents and resources people pretended to work and goverment pretended topay them so everybody was forced to steal; which suited gov fine; couse it made criminal of every citisen; so the people didn't dared to protest the gov; Sweden was rich thanks to all this Iron sold to Hitler; and Israel with its 5 milions Jews shoud be richest countryin the world;
unfortunetly oligarchs and A-rabs are slowing you down. 

[Dexter]

Poland wasn't communist ?

[judeanoncapta]

Dexter, your idea that rich people are rich because they took money from poor people and poor people are poor because their money was taken by rich people is an idea that doesn't make sense.

Money is not inherently worth anything. It REPRESENTS value.

That is all.

Businesses provide services and products that people want and therefore they EARN money. They don't TAKE it from po' folk.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...When will people learn that in order to alleviate poverty, you must make it possible to get rich?..."

This universal truth proves that The Plantation System is the one true human values system capable of enabling, producing, and preserving wealth.

The wealth of America was produced using African slaves to do all of the menial labor for approximately 400 years.  Without slaves, America would not have developed its resources within such a short period of time.

Today, corrupt and inept leadership has once again placed America and its free enterprise capitalist system in the position of either finding new slaves for the 21st Century, or disappearing.  This is why both the Republicans and the Democrats are surreptiously seeking to flood America with up to 300 million campesino Mexican wetback illegal aliens.

The White Caucasian Elite Plutocrats, now in control of all of America's remaining wealth (the greater sum of it long ago sent out of the U.S. to Communist and Muslim dictatorships; some 4 Trillion dollars of it apparently missing, unaccounted for, stolen by an individual) are hell bent on turning illegal wetbacks into their new slaves, and equally determined to starve, kill, and imprison all of the loyal American middle and lower class.