YU Fags Attempt To Create Fag Group

[Binyamin Yisrael]

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/286648

Yeshiva University rejects 'gay pride' club, says it will support students in other ways

YU rejects formation of campus group for "queer" students but says it is putting in place new policies to help students feel safe.

Yeshiva University rejected the formation of a campus group for "queer" students but said it was putting in place new policies to help students feel safe.

The flagship Modern Orthodox college in New York sent a statement to students Thursday addressing a yearlong battle over whether the school would allow a queer student group.

“The message of Torah on this issue is nuanced, both accepting each individual with love and affirming its timeless prescriptions. While students will of course socialize in gatherings they see fit, forming a new club as requested under the auspices of YU will cloud this nuanced message,” the Thursday statement said.

But the statement also announced new measures to support "LGBTQ" students, including updating its diversity and sensitivity training to apply to topics related to sexuality and gender, hiring a counselor with experience counseling LGBTQ people and establishing a phone line where people can report harassment and bullying. The school also reaffirmed that its policies prohibit discrimination and harassment, including based on sexuality or gender identity.

At YU, the conflict over the club started in September 2019 after the school’s College Democrats lost its recognition after organizing an LGBTQ rights rally (it was later reinstated). Following the event, a number of students submitted an application to create an LGBTQ student group, but the student council abstained from voting on its fate, leaving the decision up to the administration.

The YU Pride Alliance currently does not have official campus recognition and holds events off-campus. Its vice president, Chana Weiss, told the YU Commentator that the group was “disappointed by the decision” not to give the club official recognition.

“The administration has failed to be transparent about which halachic ‘nuances’ are at odds with the club and, on the contrary, we stand firm in our belief that pikuach nefesh necessitates the creation of our club,” Weiss said, referring to the Jewish principle that saving a life overrides other religious rules.

[Binyamin Yisrael]

“The administration has failed to be transparent about which halachic ‘nuances’ are at odds with the club and, on the contrary, we stand firm in our belief that pikuach nefesh necessitates the creation of our club,” Weiss said, referring to the Jewish principle that saving a life overrides other religious rules.

Pikuach Nefesh does not apply when it comes to the three cardinal sins.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

Pikuach Nefesh does not apply when it comes to the three cardinal sins.

A Gentile has no obligation to sanctify God's Name for the sake of those three commandments. That possibly makes homosexuality tolerable for a Gentile who is seriously considering ending his own life.

[Israel Chai]

A Gentile has no obligation to sanctify God's Name for the sake of those three commandments. That possibly makes homosexuality tolerable for a Gentile who is seriously considering ending his own life.

Absolutely not. He should not commit suicide and not commit homosexuality. The question is if someone puts a gun to your head and demands G-d forbid you perform an abominable act. For Jews, try your best to kill the guy, death is preferable. For Noachides, OK you opened a line of debate there, I don't know the answer.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

Absolutely not. He should not commit suicide and not commit homosexuality. The question is if someone puts a gun to your head and demands G-d forbid you perform an abominable act. For Jews, try your best to kill the guy, death is preferable. For Noachides, OK you opened a line of debate there, I don't know the answer.

Yes, ideally he should not commit suicide and not commit homosexuality. However, one who takes his own life intentionally is a murderer and no sin is greater than murder. If a Gentile kills himself because you told him he might as well do it since the sins are equally severe, you have his blood on your hands. 

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Isn't murder just as bad as idolatry and sexual immorality?

[Hrvatski Noahid]

Isn't murder just as bad as idolatry and sexual immorality?

For Gentiles, no. The Torah says that any Jewish or Gentile judge can sentence a convicted Gentile to the death penalty for murder, even nowadays. By contrast, capital punishment for other sins applies only if the majority of the Gentile population observes the Noahide commandments.

[Nachus]

                                                            

Y U  no good feygeleh don't know from any
reasonable limits! What a grosse' shanda.

[Dr. Dan]

Why bother to go to a “yeshiva” that’s supposed to teach Judaism and put forth a club which supports a terrible sin? 

But that’s “modern Othidox” for you. No different than conservative or reform.

[Binyamin Yisrael]

I remember years ago when some carpet munchers said it was discrimination that they wouldn't give them a dorm for married couples.

YU isn't just for religion. They also offer secular university degrees. Not all the students are Jewish.

I think YU is better than Bar-Ilan University in Israel. I went to Bar-Ilan for one year and all the male teachers wear kippas but the Jewish History classes were taught from a self-hating point of view rather than a Jewish one. There was one class on the Talmudic period and the teacher didn't teach History of the period but rather would just talk in every class how Chazal were not historians but refused to teach history from his point of view. At least there, students challenged the teacher when he would say those things.

My rabbi has a History degree from YU and Rabinnic Semicha from their Rabbinic yeshiva. he said the History classes there are more true to Torah than what I described above. I didn't take classes on the Biblical period but I can just imagine how the teachers at BIU might just talk Anti-Bible the whole class, similar to a teacher at Hebrew University I had.