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The worst drug today is pornography, and those who sell this poison to the public deserve the death penalty.

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The worst drug today is pornography, and those who sell this poison to the public deserve the death penalty.

Heroin is probably worse. It is still harmful, and more of a corruption of a natural process than a drug.

That being said if someone introduces pron for the first time to a society he does deserve a harsh punishment, but in a society where people are raised to think its fine, giving the death penalty is psychotic.
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Heroin is probably worse. It is still harmful, and more of a corruption of a natural process than a drug.

That being said if someone introduces pron for the first time to a society he does deserve a harsh punishment, but in a society where people are raised to think its fine, giving the death penalty is psychotic.

Whatever excuse you need not to do what has to be done.

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Whatever excuse you need not to do what has to be done.

This is an ad homenim attack, I expected more from you. No one is saying porn is anything but a major avera here. If you say that anyone involved with it should be hung, you will not convince anyone of anything but that at least the open evil people are less horrible than the so called righteous.

Rav Kahane's position on such issues was clear, we are not coming to Israel to execute people for laws they only ever learned were backward, we give people the truth and the option and then everyone always chooses what they understand. They never do with their ego in the way, and do what I know or die is a great way for someone to justify doubling down their ego.

Torah is not an axe. People like R. Mizrachi and R. Yaron Reuven who do great on the issue advocate to let people hear why these things are bad. They are not interested in telling the world to execute people. Cops in Torah days were required to inform you of the halachot in detail and answer all you questions and invite you for shabbat dinner. Executions happened decades apart and were reserved for extreme cases of evil.

Its like my friend. Obviously Hashem gave him a mandate to punch someone in the face, he kicked his car. However my friend kept hitting him while he was down and that got him in trouble, exceeded the mandate.

You're living in a famine of information and human connection and love, and you can't start killing all the scrawny victims.
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This is an ad homenim attack, I expected more from you. No one is saying porn is anything but a major avera here. If you say that anyone involved with it should be hung, you will not convince anyone of anything but that at least the open evil people are less horrible than the so called righteous.

Rav Kahane's position on such issues was clear, we are not coming to Israel to execute people for laws they only ever learned were backward, we give people the truth and the option and then everyone always chooses what they understand. They never do with their ego in the way, and do what I know or die is a great way for someone to justify doubling down their ego.

Torah is not an axe. People like R. Mizrachi and R. Yaron Reuven who do great on the issue advocate to let people hear why these things are bad. They are not interested in telling the world to execute people. Cops in Torah days were required to inform you of the halachot in detail and answer all you questions and invite you for shabbat dinner. Executions happened decades apart and were reserved for extreme cases of evil.

Its like my friend. Obviously Hashem gave him a mandate to punch someone in the face, he kicked his car. However my friend kept hitting him while he was down and that got him in trouble, exceeded the mandate.

You're living in a famine of information and human connection and love, and you can't start killing all the scrawny victims.

Cut the crap, Steve. Gentile societies are COMMANDED to ban pornography and punish those who publicize these abominations. This IS an extreme case of evil. You don't destroy the body and soul of a society and get away with it.

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Cut the crap, Steve. Gentile societies are COMMANDED to ban pornography and punish those who publicize these abominations. This IS an extreme case of evil. You don't destroy the body and soul of a society and get away with it.

There are ways of achieving moral societies. Mass murder is not one of them. You managed to gain access to information that the vast majority of people you are speaking of have never imagined. Now you have a leg up on them, you want to kill them all? At least can you spend half the energy you propose to spend on hunting down and killing massive numbers of people on educating them before hand? How bout a bit of that?

The purpose of life is to love Hashem and keep his commandments, most of which take place in secret with no axed out you waiting to catch a slip. Your method of bringing people to Hashem will accomplish the opposite and is why the muslims are so packed with sins.

You do not have the emotional strength to discuss this topic. People who have agreed with you completely will make fun of you after you inform them to look tough and indicate to others that they are interested in finding a mate. If you attack them they will become your enemy if you respond with love and jokes they will change their lives and a bit of others.

Rabbi Mizrachi and a two others I know are the professionals, just post their lectures if you want to address the topic, promoting the axe will only serve to make you look maniacal, it cant even make the cause look bad because not one of them propose what you do. They give lectures.

How about supporting young couples, so they dont have to be a single mom to get some help? Inform them of what is right and wrong if they want to listen, but if you get up on a stage and start saying tons of people will die, no one will defend you when you're called a Nazi.
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There are ways of achieving moral societies. Mass murder is not one of them. You managed to gain access to information that the vast majority of people you are speaking of have never imagined. Now you have a leg up on them, you want to kill them all? At least can you spend half the energy you propose to spend on hunting down and killing massive numbers of people on educating them before hand? How bout a bit of that?

The purpose of life is to love Hashem and keep his commandments, most of which take place in secret with no axed out you waiting to catch a slip. Your method of bringing people to Hashem will accomplish the opposite and is why the muslims are so packed with sins.

You do not have the emotional strength to discuss this topic. People who have agreed with you completely will make fun of you after you inform them to look tough and indicate to others that they are interested in finding a mate. If you attack them they will become your enemy if you respond with love and jokes they will change their lives and a bit of others.

Rabbi Mizrachi and a two others I know are the professionals, just post their lectures if you want to address the topic, promoting the axe will only serve to make you look maniacal, it cant even make the cause look bad because not one of them propose what you do. They give lectures.

How about supporting young couples, so they dont have to be a single mom to get some help? Inform them of what is right and wrong if they want to listen, but if you get up on a stage and start saying tons of people will die, no one will defend you when you're called a Nazi.

I am professional enough that Rabbi Tovia Singer personally chose me to moderate his outreach channel. I do more to educate people about Torah and bring them to God than you can ever hope to do, so spare me the criticism. Your lack of passion for God's commandments is something you should work on. If you don't care about making the Noahide laws the actual law of the land in Gentile countries, you can move to Israel and whine there.

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I am professional enough that Rabbi Tovia Singer personally chose me to moderate his outreach channel. I do more to educate people about Torah and bring them to God than you can ever hope to do, so spare me the criticism. Your lack of passion for God's commandments is something you should work on. If you don't care about making the Noahide laws the actual law of the land in Gentile countries, you can move to Israel and whine there.

Talk to Rabbi Singer about this. You will enjoy learning about the correct way to bring someone to mitzvot. Please go ahead and show him the entire conversation. You are clearly not approaching this issue rationally.
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I have so many hundreds of examples that giving one vulgarizes how many points there sre. So to give a broad one, on just about every single right wing news page in the comments, the same right wingers that we rely on and are solid on many issues cheer that they have the right and there's nothing wrong. You tell this guy do or die and he's at war with you now, people don't like being told what to do. To help this guy takes a lot of work.

Also again for every young couple you help financially and in relationship issues, you save them from a life of that.

You got the lonely guy, its mostly guys that watch it, and his life isnt great. Porn guy comes and helps him wallow in his misery and he's digging himself out of a hole. You see the guy beaten down by life and left to wallow and tell him death, half the time he'll do it more just to tempt you.

I can keep giving examples all day. If you have a Torah society and there are Rabbis all over.amd someone is promoting it, ots night and day from a society where little kids think this is normal.

Its also a perfect example that I eho has defended and promoted Rabbi Mizrachi's lectures on the topic on many occasions is now forced to attack you on it. Anyone who didn't already understand the issue would fight you much more.

There are so many ways to help someone see porn is bad even secular organizations make groups for it. Attach "you deserve to die if you do not agree" to any of the best arguments and they turn to their opposite.

There is knowledge which is vanity, you dont want to be a lowly person when you understand the effects. There is spiritual elevation, becoming a person that wouldnt do those things under any circumstance. And there is pointing a gun and saying obey, which makes rebels.

Informing people about how harmful this avera is helps them and the world. Making a group to encourage death to them will not result in any supporters, is incorrect on a level you need more historical data to relate to it, and serves what purpose exactly?

Hi guys, names Joey. I was smoking crack amd beating people until the good HN changes my life by telling me i should get the death penalty for masutbation. My life was changes and now I only drink Stella beer. 
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That $27 million should be taken from that ape's family and given to Derek Chauvin and his family instead!

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Superb commentary as always. That kind of gelt where it
is instead well deserved, would do a world of good!