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What is a NAZI?
« on: October 11, 2007, 12:20:05 AM »
The term Nazi is a term that is used a lot on this board.

I'm interested to know what term means in the modern world.

How would you define the term NAZI?

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2007, 12:23:48 AM »

Nazi? Evil murdering fascists, that considers America, Jews, Israel, and the West/Europe as enemies, with the intention of slaughtering us and taking over the world.
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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2007, 12:32:45 AM »

Nazi? Evil murdering fascists, that considers America, Jews, Israel, and the West/Europe as enemies, with the intention of slaughtering us and taking over the world.

The problem I have is this.

In England if you ask people who are the modern day Nazis they will say the British Nationalist Party.
A party that believes that Muslims want to take over the world and want to kick em out of Europe.

In America or Israel if you ask people who are the modern day Nazis they will answer Muslims.
Can they both be Nazis when they believe the exact opposite thing?


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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 12:37:10 AM »
A sadistic, sadomasochistic piece of excrement who hates Jewish people.
One who forms any alliance with other Jew-hating piece of excrement.
One who promotes Jew-hatred under the any guise, whether patriotism, facism, communism, equality, or any political viewpoint.

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 12:53:28 AM »
A sadistic, sadomasochistic piece of excrement who hates Jewish people.
One who forms any alliance with other Jew-hating piece of excrement.
One who promotes Jew-hatred under the any guise, whether patriotism, facism, communism, equality, or any political viewpoint.

Well the BNP was the only British party who supported Israel in the war it had, about a year or so back.
So would you consider them a Nazi party?

See the N in Nazi does mean Nationalist.
But surely you're against Nationalism?

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2007, 01:03:55 AM »
A sadistic, sadomasochistic piece of excrement who hates Jewish people.
One who forms any alliance with other Jew-hating piece of excrement.
One who promotes Jew-hatred under the any guise, whether patriotism, facism, communism, equality, or any political viewpoint.

Well the BNP was the only British party who supported Israel in the war it had, about a year or so back.
So would you consider them a Nazi party?

See the N in Nazi does mean Nationalist.
But surely you're against Nationalism?

No, we would not consider the BNP as a Nazi party, that is unless the party espouses Nazi ideology.  I'm not familiar enough with the group though.

A Nazi is someone who supports either political or religious fascism, has a concept superiority over other peoples and "leibenstraum" and has the desire to conquer and oppress inferior people in order to glorify their ideology whether it be based on race, religion, or something else.  Nazis support cult of personality fascistic dictators, believe in Jewish conspiracy theories, and share the desire to exterminate the Jewish people who supposedly will prevent them from achieving their goals.
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2007, 01:20:56 AM »
Someone who hates another person for no reason whatsoever and wants to bring about their demise... This is a Nazi

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2007, 01:23:22 AM »
I would have said anyone who hates Jews for any reason, but Raise Your Fist has a point.

But... I don't think someone who hates blacks but not Jews (for instance) is a Nazi. So there are limits to his definition.

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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2007, 01:28:04 AM »
Nazi is also used as slur used especialy by the  left against it's oponents on right; just as a term fascist; which for radical leftist is anyboody beliving in judeo-chrsitian G-d, strong traditional familly and any form of patriotism. Nazi is soembody who belives master race, nation or religion, subjocation and extermination of other "lesser" people including but not exclusivly Jews, word conquest and regulated economy based on state and corporational monopolies he's aginst free maket; and as general rule is anti American and anti Israeli in broad sense not only current goverments; Today they're  secular neonazis in the west and A-rab or Turkish nationalists ; and religius pisslamic nazis ewerywhere; some far leftists in their self hatred towards wetern culture and white people  are nearing the old shool nazi  from the other extreem.
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11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2007, 01:30:53 AM »
I think Ultra understood how the term is misused and asked for the real meaning.

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2007, 01:41:39 AM »
Re:  "...How would you define the term NAZI?..."

A follower of a totalitarian ideology practicing extreme nationalism combined with socialism, to the exclusive benefit of only one ethnic/national group, about whom a completely false mythos (The Aryan Ubermensch--White Teutonic Superman member of the Aryan "Master Race") is believed and enforced as "religion"; overriding all previous accepted and documentable religious, historical, social, national, military, scientific, and academic thinking.

The "Aryan Mythos" is centered upon the demonization of the Jewish People, wherein all that is problematic in life throughout all of history is blamed solely on the Jew.

The success of the Nazi Movement, according to its doctrine, is possible only with the complete eradication of the Jew from the entire earth.

The "National Socialist Worker's Party" practices the "cult of personality", centered upon the "Der Fuhrerprinzip":
The entire nation is united upon the belief of shared "blood and soil" against any and all other nations, led by just one man who is the nation's leader, primary philosopher, military strategist, and dictator of the entirety of governmental, legal, and social order.
All actions and orders in Nazism are "from the top down" (Fuhrer's orders being carried out by subordinates in a typical pyramid structure downwards), and all responsibilities to the Fuhrer are "from the bottom upwards" (each subordinate directly accountable to his superior above).

Needless to say, in such a society dissent and alternative worldviews are punished with imprisonment and/or death.  The Nazi Party owns and controls completely all media, news, government, churches, and schools.

While Nazism was a movement already growing in Germany during the 1920's, it was Adolph Hitler who consolidated and energized it into a mass movement centered entirely on his life and persona.

Now, WhiteWolf...are you satisfied that there's a Jew here who actually knows what the hell he's talking about? 

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2007, 01:53:49 AM »
Re:  "...How would you define the term NAZI?..."

A follower of a totalitarian ideology practicing extreme nationalism combined with socialism, to the exclusive benefit of only one ethnic/national group, about whom a completely false mythos (The Aryan Ubermensch--White Teutonic Superman member of the Aryan "Master Race") is believed and enforced as "religion"; overriding all previous accepted and documentable religious, historical, social, national, military, scientific, and academic thinking.

The "Aryan Mythos" is centered upon the demonization of the Jewish People, wherein all that is problematic in life throughout all of history is blamed solely on the Jew.

The success of the Nazi Movement, according to its doctrine, is possible only with the complete eradication of the Jew from the entire earth.

The "National Socialist Worker's Party" practices the "cult of personality", centered upon the "Der Fuhrerprinzip":
The entire nation is united upon the belief of shared "blood and soil" against any and all other nations, led by just one man who is the nation's leader, primary philosopher, military strategist, and dictator of the entirety of governmental, legal, and social order.
All actions and orders in Nazism are "from the top down" (Fuhrer's orders being carried out by subordinates in a typical pyramid structure downwards), and all responsibilities to the Fuhrer are "from the bottom upwards" (each subordinate directly accountable to his superior above).

Needless to say, in such a society dissent and alternative worldviews are punished with imprisonment and/or death.  The Nazi Party owns and controls completely all media, news, government, churches, and schools.

While Nazism was a movement already growing in Germany during the 1920's, it was Adolph Hitler who consolidated and energized it into a mass movement centered entirely on his life and persona.

Now, WhiteWolf...are you satisfied that there's a Jew here who actually knows what the hell he's talking about? 
I saw plenty of defintions that were perfectly suitable for the term "Nazi" from our other members.

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2007, 02:07:42 AM »
The evil White KKK people who may not have always hated jews but hated blacks are nazi's because they had no reason hate them...

and if they did it was for all the wrong reasons

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2007, 02:08:12 AM »
The IslamoNazism:
THE Past:


The Present:

The Future:

Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2007, 06:08:51 AM »
The BNP are not nazis however some British members have said some of the BNP's economic policies tend to be socialist.I think there are a couple of BNP members on this forum.
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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2007, 07:32:24 AM »
I would have said anyone who hates Jews for any reason, but Raise Your Fist has a point.

But... I don't think someone who hates blacks but not Jews (for instance) is a Nazi. So there are limits to his definition.

What you say doesn't really gel with me... someone who hates blacks for no reason but doesn't hates jews is still extremely evil...

i know what your trying to say about blacks being primarily evil but if someone were to attack Alan Keys for the same shortcomings as a black man that would be an act of evil...

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2007, 07:56:48 AM »
A nazi is the term I use when I want to say that my nose itches...as in, "I have these boogies, I need to scratch my 'nay-zee'"
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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2007, 06:13:19 PM »
Re:  "...the KKK which hates blacks but doesn't hate Jews..."

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Really?

I'd love a clarification of this observation.

I must have been reading the wrong KKK literature and listening to speeches at the wrong KKK rallies.


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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2007, 06:23:00 PM »
Re:  "...I saw plenty of defintions that were perfectly suitable for the term "Nazi" from our other members..."

I didn't.

Many claiming membership in the new JDF & its splinter groups, as well as innumerable "mainstream American Jews", publicly denounce Rabbi Meir Kahane and Chaim Ben Pesach as "nazis".

Just because you personally happen to disapprove or disagree with someone else, does not in and of itself define them as a "nazi".

I refer those who practice this kind of thinking to read the last paragraph of my current post regarding Ann Coulter's opinions about Jews.

In short...ARE YOU A KAHANIST?...

AND, IF YOU ARE, WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN?

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2007, 06:38:50 PM »
The term Nazi is a term that is used a lot on this board.

I'm interested to know what term means in the modern world.

How would you define the term NAZI?
The term NAZI or National Socialism is simply a title for an ideology that combines Germanic Paganism with economic principles of Socialism.  There was really nothing whatsoever "Nationalist" about National Socialism since the first thing Herr Schickelgruber did was invade Rhineland, Czeck, Austria, France and then Poland with desires of expanding his empire Eastward into the Russian oil fields.  This is all, of course, stated within his Mein Kempf. 

The Germanic Paganism side was the teachings of peoples like Alfred Rosenburg's Thule Society and Houston Stewart Chamberlain's promulgation of Theosophic teachings of Madam Blavatsky.  This is the foundation of the "religious" side of Nazism.  Most of the top Nazis were Homosexuals including Adolf himself.  This is perhaps why the Arab culture has embraced Nazism and the Nazis embraced the Islamist, Hajj Amin Al Hussaini with open arms.

It too is no secret that the Nazis sent scientists into India and Thebet to study the pagan Hindu texts and Guru teachings with that of the Dhali Lama to refine their Germanism.  "Hitler's Preistess" is a very good book on this subject as is "The Rainbow Swastika" by Hannah Newman (found for free on the net) to see the foundations and promulgation of the teachings that composed Nazism then and today. 

People often forget that the Muslism sided with the Germans during WWI and with the "peaceful" Buddhists and Hindus sided with the Axis against the Allies in WW2....
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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2007, 06:52:39 PM »
Re:  "...the KKK which hates blacks but doesn't hate Jews..."

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Really?

I'd love a clarification of this observation.

I must have been reading the wrong KKK literature and listening to speeches at the wrong KKK rallies.


You misquoted him. This is something you do quite a bit.

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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2007, 07:18:23 PM »
Re:  "...the KKK which hates blacks but doesn't hate Jews..."

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Really?

I'd love a clarification of this observation.

I must have been reading the wrong KKK literature and listening to speeches at the wrong KKK rallies.


You misquoted him. This is something you do quite a bit.

The KKK hate the Jews first and foremost.
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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2007, 07:24:02 PM »
Re:  "...the KKK which hates blacks but doesn't hate Jews..."

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Really?

I'd love a clarification of this observation.

I must have been reading the wrong KKK literature and listening to speeches at the wrong KKK rallies.


You misquoted him. This is something you do quite a bit.

The KKK hate the Jews first and foremost.
Not so. They hate Jews, blacks and Christians equally. Their beliefs have grown over time to expand their hatred.
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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2007, 07:24:57 PM »
A nazi, is some one that believes Jews are a inferior people and want them murdered. In some cases, they won't actually murder them, but just say on National TV that they want Jews too be "Perfected."
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Re: What is a NAZI?
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2007, 09:38:03 PM »
I think a Nazi is someone, who agrees, even if only partially, with the statements of the original Nazi-teachings. If the person has read it or not, is not important. Important is his oppinion. One identifying feature is the believe in the total maliciousness of Jews and that Jews are behind all evil in the world. Onother point is his believe in a socialist total state, where the individual is nothing and the so called society is all. In his oppinion is free market economy evil and christian religion is a slave ideology. The christian confessions he hate at most are first the catholic church and second bible believing christs of different protestant confessions, because they take the "Tanach" seriously. The Nazis don't believe, that Jesus is a Jew, but a Aryan. In the time of Nazi-Terror they builded a own church, that called "German christs". In this church they teached, that Adolf Hitler is the Savior (Messias).

On this picture you can see on the left a German Christ and on the right a member of the confession church. They make promotion for their groups shortly before the election of a church council.



Jesus as a Aryan in the Nazi-Terror-Newspaper Sturmer:





A short explanation of the Nazi-religion you can read of wikipedia here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Christians


and here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

Here is a Prayer to Hitler of this insane sect:

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Prayer to Hitler

In Nazism, Adolf Hitler was occasionally compared with Jesus, or revered as a savior sent by G-d. A prayer recited by orphans at orphanages runs as follows:[15] This could be used as an indication that Nazism was a political religion or for the political messianism of Hitler.

    Führer, mein Führer, von Gott mir gegeben, beschütz und erhalte noch lange mein Leben
    Du hast Deutschland errettet aus tiefster Not, Dir verdank ich mein tägliches Brot
    Führer, mein Führer, mein Glaube, mein Licht
    Führer mein Führer, verlasse mich nicht

This translates roughly as:

    Leader, my Leader, given to me by G-d, protect me and sustain my life for a long time
    you have rescued Germany out of deepest misery, to you I owe my daily bread
    Leader, my Leader, my belief, my light
    Leader my Leader, do not abandon me
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_Religion#Prayer_to_Hitler


All about Nazi-ideologie you find in this two Nazi-books:

I. Adolf Hitler: Mein Kampf



II. Alfred Rosenberg: Der Mythos des 20. Jahrhunderts


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